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The chimp
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ID please
#19150662 - 11/17/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Habitat: Growing in moss under Jack Pine.
Gills: Greyish thick and deep
Stem: Greyish
Cap: Greyish with black markings
Spore print color: Not sure mabe whitish
Bruising: Did not check
Other information: Very cool gills they almost felt waxy.
      
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RiverDweller1



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Maybe Megacollybia?
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Dr.Tooty
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No clue...But I'm interested. Cool shots!
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The chimp
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Thanks RD, I'll check Megacollybia out and report back
Thank you Dr. Tooty, yeah man I thought they were interesting mushrooms too.
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Beautiful pics chimp! As always
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The chimp
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Re: ID please [Re: art2312]
#19151091 - 11/17/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey thanks art!! Appreciate it man. Well I've looked at Megacollybia but can't find anything too similar and I've also looked at Tricholoma and Tricholomopsis with No luck. I am starting to think this is a large Hygrophorus species, the waxy feeling gills point this way too.
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BittrBuffalo
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Tricholoma sp.?
Just a guess. Super cool looking though.
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BittrBuffalo
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Oh shit I didn't realize you already went there. No idea. Good luck.
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Perhaps Hygrphorus marzuolus?
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The chimp
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Re: ID please [Re: raceme]
#19153018 - 11/18/13 07:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey thanks BittrBuffalo, yeah hopefully We can figure this one out man. Thank you raceme, it does seem very similar too some of the photos online. Hygrophorus marzuolus is commonly known as the March Mushroom and fruits in spring in mountains and higher elevations under softwood and in moss. I found these mushrooms in the fall at low elevations in Northwestern Ontario. I did find them in moss under Jack Pine, so that is correct. Perhaps it is a similar species that is rare or undescribed?
Edited by The chimp (11/18/13 07:08 AM)
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bloodworm
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what about Tricholoma myomyces?
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Ganzig
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T. myomyces is pretty hirsute on the pileus. From the pictures I have seen.
This mushroom is glabrous.
But I do think "Tricholoma" every time I look at it.
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Re: ID please [Re: Ganzig]
#19153387 - 11/18/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ganzig said: T. myomyces is pretty hirsute on the pileus. From the pictures I have seen.
This mushroom is glabrous.
But I do think "Tricholoma" every time I look at it.
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Ganzig said: T. myomyces is pretty hirsute on the pileus. From the pictures I have seen.
This mushroom is glabrous.
But I do think "Tricholoma" every time I look at it.
the pileus here is not "glabrous."
"Cap 1.5-4.5 cm broad, convex, plano-convex to plano-depressed, the disc often slightly elevated; margin incurved in youth, wavy, with adhering pallid fibrils, eventually decurved to upturned in age; surface felty-tomentose becomingly squamulose, dark grey to blackish over a pallid background, the margin lighter; flesh thin, grey; odor mild; taste of cucumber."
"Tricholoma myomyces (Fr.) Lange Cap I-7cm across, obtusely conic expanding to convex, then flat with a low umbo; margin incurved at first, then often wavy; dark drab gray to brownish gray or blackish gray, generally paler on the margin; dry, densely matted, and hairy on the disc and hairy to scaly elsewhere. Gills arcuate to sinuate, close, broad; light gray, fading near the stem in age, very rarely discoloring with dull yellow spots. Stem 15-70 x 5-10mm, solid or hollow, generally rounded or abruptly tapered; white to pale gray; silky with white or gray hairs. Veil a cortina of white or gray hairs that leaves a faint, quickly disappearing zone on the stem. Flesh pale gray. Spores ellipsoid, smooth, nonamyloid, 6.7-7.6 x 4.3-4.8ì (4-spored form), 8.6-1 1.4 x 3.8-5.7ì (2-spored form). Deposit white. Habitat in groups or dense clusters under conifers in woods or on lawns. Frequent and sometimes abundant. Found in Europe and widely distributed in northern North America. Season August-October. Edibility not known -avoid."
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Quote:
Ganzig said: T. myomyces is pretty hirsute on the pileus. From the pictures I have seen.
This mushroom is glabrous.
But I do think "Tricholoma" every time I look at it.
the pileus here is not "glabrous."
"Cap 1.5-4.5 cm broad, convex, plano-convex to plano-depressed, the disc often slightly elevated; margin incurved in youth, wavy, with adhering pallid fibrils, eventually decurved to upturned in age; surface felty-tomentose becomingly squamulose, dark grey to blackish over a pallid background, the margin lighter; flesh thin, grey; odor mild; taste of cucumber."
"Tricholoma myomyces (Fr.) Lange Cap I-7cm across, obtusely conic expanding to convex, then flat with a low umbo; margin incurved at first, then often wavy; dark drab gray to brownish gray or blackish gray, generally paler on the margin; dry, densely matted, and hairy on the disc and hairy to scaly elsewhere. Gills arcuate to sinuate, close, broad; light gray, fading near the stem in age, very rarely discoloring with dull yellow spots. Stem 15-70 x 5-10mm, solid or hollow, generally rounded or abruptly tapered; white to pale gray; silky with white or gray hairs. Veil a cortina of white or gray hairs that leaves a faint, quickly disappearing zone on the stem. Flesh pale gray. Spores ellipsoid, smooth, nonamyloid, 6.7-7.6 x 4.3-4.8ì (4-spored form), 8.6-1 1.4 x 3.8-5.7ì (2-spored form). Deposit white. Habitat in groups or dense clusters under conifers in woods or on lawns. Frequent and sometimes abundant. Found in Europe and widely distributed in northern North America. Season August-October. Edibility not known -avoid."
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Ganzig
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You are right they are not very bald. But they are not very hair either.
And I would say those gills are an olive green.
Also, glabrous is a word from my botany background. Those slip in my mycological terms sometimes.
It means hairy. But it usually refers to a leaf or stem of a plant. Sometimes used to describe a fruit of a plant also.
Same with hirsute. lol
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Edited by Ganzig (11/18/13 11:59 AM)
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Re: ID please [Re: Ganzig]
#19153869 - 11/18/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ganzig said: But I do think "Tricholoma" every time I look at it.
My first thoughts
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The chimp
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Re: ID please [Re: pouihi]
#19154771 - 11/18/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the input gentlemen, Tricholoma myomyces is similar looking as well but I'm convinced this is a similar species too Hygrophorus marzuolus. The thick deep waxy gills resemble the gills in my photos and the caps as well.As shown in these pics I found online
Edited by The chimp (11/18/13 03:29 PM)
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suchen
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Glabrous means not hairy. I always remember that because "glatzen" means baldness in German. Was a spore print collected for these specimens? They are almost certainly Quote:
bloodworm said: Tricholoma myomyces?
or one of the very similar species. Hygrophorus marzuolus is more of a spring mushroom I think and grows in pinier woodlands.
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Re: ID please [Re: suchen]
#19154848 - 11/18/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ah, I fear that I am incorrect. Hygrophorus does match these gills more closely.
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The chimp
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Re: ID please [Re: suchen]
#19155033 - 11/18/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No spore print was collected for these mushrooms, glad to see you thinks it's Hygrophorus also Suchen
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