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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19149973 - 11/17/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

do you have any evidence to show that THIS CURRENT STORM has anything to do with climate change? no? then i guess you can silence now. only dreams now.


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Offlinechutney
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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19149976 - 11/17/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
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chutney said:
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Mush4Brains said:

So post the fucking proof already if you have it.





See earlier discussion.

"Proof" is subjective, and you don't want it to be proven so nothing will meet your qualifications of proof.

Nice try though.



proof is not subjective.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchhausen_Trilemma

"proof" is an inherent quality. it's objectively deduced, as a way to exact a proportional effect from some source, and judge it's instance of inherent "provability" or in otherwords, truth.




Wow, now we're into sketchy philosophical constructs?

Quit arguing just for the sake of arguing. I'm not gonna go into this with you. Talk about grasping for straws

If zappa doesn't want to accept something as "proof" it will not "prove" anything to him.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19149981 - 11/17/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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no one is trying to do any of those things. you're making it out that way, because you're hearing opinions you don't like and getting kinda pissy.




People who have a scientific background tend to get pissy when you try to have a scientific debate and the other side has little to know scientific evidence to support their point, so they start playing politics, pushing pseudo-science, and coming to terrible conclusions that aren't supported by the vast amounts of actual science that has been done on the subject.




So present the evidence.  I find what I have seen so far woefully inadequate.  And there is one completely irrefutable fact.  The climate alarmists' computer models have been woefully wrong in the prediction department.

Your science background is what, exactly?


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OfflineMush4Brains
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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19149990 - 11/17/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
do you have any evidence to show that THIS CURRENT STORM has anything to do with climate change? no? then i guess you can silence now. only dreams now.




How would I have peer-reviewed, scientific evidence of something that is currently happening?

That's not how science works.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19149995 - 11/17/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Your science background is what, exactly?




More than yours.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19149999 - 11/17/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

exactly. which is why this debate your pandering is useless and stupid and inane and insane and non-scientific. why don't you try taking up your own proclamations about how things work, and just stop arguing about something you can't possibly have any evidence to support? you and Chutney.

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Mush4Brains said:
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zappaisgod said:
Your science background is what, exactly?




More than yours.



which means nothing.

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chutney said:
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akira_akuma said:
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chutney said:
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Mush4Brains said:

So post the fucking proof already if you have it.





See earlier discussion.

"Proof" is subjective, and you don't want it to be proven so nothing will meet your qualifications of proof.

Nice try though.



proof is not subjective.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchhausen_Trilemma

"proof" is an inherent quality. it's objectively deduced, as a way to exact a proportional effect from some source, and judge it's instance of inherent "provability" or in otherwords, truth.




Wow, now we're into sketchy philosophical constructs?

Quit arguing just for the sake of arguing. I'm not gonna go into this with you. Talk about grasping for straws

If zappa doesn't want to accept something as "proof" it will not "prove" anything to him.



sketchy philosophical constructs? i'm not arguing for the sake of arguing, i'm arguing to shut you up, because you're the one going on about shit that has nothing to anything in this thread. i'm providing you a discourse, and you can't commit. so just stop.


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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: chutney]
    #19150003 - 11/17/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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chutney said:
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akira_akuma said:
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chutney said:
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Mush4Brains said:

So post the fucking proof already if you have it.





See earlier discussion.

"Proof" is subjective, and you don't want it to be proven so nothing will meet your qualifications of proof.

Nice try though.



proof is not subjective.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchhausen_Trilemma

"proof" is an inherent quality. it's objectively deduced, as a way to exact a proportional effect from some source, and judge it's instance of inherent "provability" or in otherwords, truth.




Wow, now we're into sketchy philosophical constructs?

Quit arguing just for the sake of arguing. I'm not gonna go into this with you. Talk about grasping for straws

If zappa doesn't want to accept something as "proof" it will not "prove" anything to him.




Show me something, anything.  I see computer model predictions that have not panned out and evidence that temperature rises historically precur CO2 increases.  I find it hard to believe that increasing the concentration of a trace gas from 0.03% to 0.04% is going to be a cataclysmic forcing of global temperature increases.

I bet you wish you lived in the ice ages.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19150004 - 11/17/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

PRAISE SCIENCE

Therefore, global climate warming n stuff! Diggity!

WEATHER N STUFF! DIGGITY!

I AM CERTAINLY CERTAIN YOU ARE UNCERTAINLY UNCERTAIN!

:gooby: therefore :blewmeanie:

























:dumbass:


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19150005 - 11/17/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There's always some impending doom. There's always so primitive messenger forecasting the apocalypse, we get it already. It's gonna happen! Cave men could have predicted that, the way we live isn't sustainable but no one wants to change so fuck it. Let the universe slowly wipe us out until we're all gone or at least less of a danger to the cosmos.


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Offlinechutney
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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19150009 - 11/17/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
do you have any evidence to show that THIS CURRENT STORM has anything to do with climate change? no? then i guess you can silence now. only dreams now.





Its official.

This statement officially trumps every scientist's life work on this subject, every paper, every experiment, every geological sample, ALL of it was actually just nonsense all along.

This guy is so smart and has spent SOOOOO much time studying this on Google that it just automatically negates everything else done over the past several decades on this topic.

Way to "silence" it... maybe its your ego needs silencing.

:lolsy:


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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19150011 - 11/17/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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JesusIsLord said:
PRAISE SCIENCE

Therefore, global climate warming n stuff! Diggity!

WEATHER N STUFF! DIGGITY!

I AM CERTAINLY CERTAIN YOU ARE UNCERTAINLY UNCERTAIN!

:gooby: therefore :blewmeanie:

























:dumbass:



LOL, scientific "certainty" is certainly not being presented here.


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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: chutney]
    #19150018 - 11/17/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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chutney said:
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akira_akuma said:
do you have any evidence to show that THIS CURRENT STORM has anything to do with climate change? no? then i guess you can silence now. only dreams now.





Its official.

This statement officially trumps every scientist's life work on this subject, every paper, every experiment, every geological sample, ALL of it was actually just nonsense all along.

This guy is so smart and has spent SOOOOO much time studying this on Google that it just automatically negates everything else done over the past several decades on this topic.

Way to "silence" it... maybe its your ego needs silencing.

:lolsy:



LOL, i don't need to study any of this to tell you how hyperbolic you're being about your assertions. i think you're ego needs the silencing.


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OfflineMush4Brains
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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19150024 - 11/17/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
exactly. which is why this debate your pandering is useless and stupid and inane and insane and non-scientific. why don't you try taking up your own proclamations about how things work, and just stop arguing about something you can't possibly have any evidence to support? you and Chutney.





The preponderance of evidence is on my side.  If you're going to come out and try and say otherwise, you're going to need some solid, peer-reviewed evidence, and a lot of it.

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LOL, scientific "certainty" is certainly not being presented here.





I would say, save for a few things, there is very little that is "certain" in science.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19150038 - 11/17/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:

LOL, scientific "certainty" is certainly not being presented here.




Once again; see earlier discussion.

We're not presenting evidence for a reason... and I'll give ya a hint; its not for lack of evidence :wink:


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19150041 - 11/17/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I dun said preponderance.


Therefore, WIN.

:philososloth:

fuck yeah, science. I'ma go hump my richard dawkins books now. Diggity, bitches.

Afterlife? Bitchplease. Weather? FUCKIN-A

:raveface:


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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19150046 - 11/17/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ok, lets just silence the tards.

"ok we all get it. global warming is real, and humans man, we're a major cause of the instances where you find increase in global warming."

ok, are you fucking tools finally satisfied? whoopee, shit we already know, man i feel so insightful now!1 :rolleyes:

now can we talk about the current storm, that has no information precluding to the "problem of global warming"; or are we just gonna keep going?

i said it, you're right about global warming; so what's the next argument?

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chutney said:
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akira_akuma said:

LOL, scientific "certainty" is certainly not being presented here.




Once again; see earlier discussion.

We're not presenting evidence for a reason... and I'll give ya a hint; its not for lack of evidence :wink:



you're not providing evidence, PERIOD.

man, you talk like you ARE all scientists. :lolsy: give me a break.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19150063 - 11/17/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you

You're little episode was quite obnoxious :smile:

Have a goodday.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Khii Khwaay]
    #19150081 - 11/17/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Khii Khwaay said:
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koods said:
Find me a global warming denier who isn't politically conservative, and I will suck his dick.





I voted NDP in the last election, and I am skeptical about human caused global warming.

Now, my question to you is: Are you mean people or nice people?



:awejeez:


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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: chutney]
    #19150093 - 11/17/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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chutney said:
Thank you

You're little episode was quite obnoxious :smile:

Have a goodday.



no, you're an obnoxious fool. you berate and condescend and proclaim and preach and you have NO EVIDENCE. NOR ANY REASON. you just like to flap your gums, because you think you have to fight your dissenters; when no one is even putting up a fight in the first place. they just have to defend against your reckless spouting of your magical climate change effecting everything you can see. you just wanna proclaim that we need to worry about climate change... without reason or evidence. it's so obnoxious... and you say i'm obnoxious? you started this tirade.

PS: global warming as a "thing" exists... global warming as natural disaster is a "not a thing" that doesn't exist. get the picture yet?


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: chutney]
    #19150115 - 11/17/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Anyways

OP I will officially hand you back your topic after 9 pages :tongue:

I dont know about the weather I don't have a TV service (just Netflix and online) so I haven't seen or heard much about this weather coming up. Hopefully not too many people die or lose their homes, I can't even imagine losing most of what you own in a natural disaster.

I live in an area where I have to deal with snow and blizzards, but no natural disasters really occur around here. The worst we get is thunderstorms and I love thunderstorms... especially those super rare but INTENSE thunderstorms that maybe only happen once every few years but its coming down so hard and the thunder is so deafening you think "wow this is the new craziest storm ive ever seen" as its happening. Those are my favorite.

But yeah really sucks for the people that are gonna be in the path of these storms. I'll have to look more into it.


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