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peatmoss in german ?
    #1915002 - 09/14/03 11:24 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

can someone tell me what EXACTLY peatmoss is in german ?
cause when i let it run through a translator i just get a product, which makes no sense at all - sounds like a plant then......


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: invi]
    #1915061 - 09/14/03 12:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

try 'peat'

peatmoss and sphagnum moss are used interchangeably by some. if not identical, they're certainly related: put it this way, if they had kids together, they'd have long necks and six or seven fingers. it's fairly acidic, so it'll need some chalk or oyster, or sparing amounts of lime.


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: shirley knott]
    #1915088 - 09/14/03 12:29 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

thx man,

so i?ll use peat.

can i just use this "school"-chalk, which the teacher uses to write on the board ?
and how much by wheight you think should work ?


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: invi]
    #1915120 - 09/14/03 12:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

when you write "lime", it?s Calciumcarbonat, is?nt it ?

and why in all recipes about 50/50+ there are 2 things to add,
oyster shells and lime ?


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: invi]
    #1915143 - 09/14/03 01:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

lime is calcium hydroxide. strong stuff.
chalk is calcium carbonate - no, you can't use blackboard chalk.

people use two buffers so they have an immediate (eg chalk) and slow release (eg oyster) things to mop up the spare protons.


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: shirley knott]
    #1916042 - 09/14/03 06:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

why lime? that will only make it more acidic. Gypsum calcium sulfate CaSO4 is what Stamets says to balance pH. Gypsum raises pH, so if the pH is acidic add gypsum to bring level closer to 7 or nuetral.


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: THATS iT!]
    #1917425 - 09/15/03 06:08 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

@Thats it
lime is not acidic ! its just the other thing ! and very strong !
so please dont write as you would be an expert, cause its not true what your saying !
I?m really sorry to tell you, but you should think about, that real newbs read your posts and take it for real !

Here?s a sample of stamets :

The recipe is originally from Growing Gourmet & Medicinal Mushrooms, by Stamets.

Use the following procedure to create the casing material. Then substitute it into any casing method.

Ingredients:

10 units peat
1 unit calcium sulfate (gypsum)
1 unit calcium carbonate (chalk)

Procedure:

Use calcium carbonate to adjust pH of peat.


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: invi]
    #1917448 - 09/15/03 06:45 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

>can someone tell me what EXACTLY peatmoss is in german ?

Torf. Fast alle Blumenderde-Mischungen enthalten Torf zu 80-90%.


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: invi]
    #1917453 - 09/15/03 06:47 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

>can i just use this "school"-chalk, which the teacher uses to write on the board ?


No.
Read http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23439


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: Anno]
    #1917532 - 09/15/03 08:48 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

thx Anno,
didnt know your also german, or just speaking german ?

i got one of this in my gardencenter.
but im still looking for cheap calcium carbonat,
and ph-strips oder ph-meter.
where do you get yours in germany ? (OBI ? Pharmacie ?)



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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: invi]
    #1917626 - 09/15/03 10:07 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

would it be okay to past. the 50/50+ mix in a pillowcase inside a big pot full with water (i mean submerged in the water), or will this wash out the calcium carbonat/limestone flower ?


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: invi]
    #1917655 - 09/15/03 10:26 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I buy mine in the chemistry supply shop. Around 2 euro for 1 kg.^

I pasteurize the mixture for 10 minutes in a plastic bag in the microwave.
Also look here:
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23373
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23705
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23440



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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: Anno]
    #1917680 - 09/15/03 10:49 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

the mess : i dont have a mwave


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: invi]
    #1917977 - 09/15/03 01:46 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

My mistake Mr. "Expert" invi. I guess you didn't see the question mark at the end of the sentence. You must have been blinded by your knowledge.


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: THATS iT!]
    #1917994 - 09/15/03 01:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Good luck with your Pan. cyan. on wood chips.


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Re: peatmoss in german ? [Re: THATS iT!]
    #1918294 - 09/15/03 03:39 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

so THATS iT!, plz show me the question mark at the end of the sentence.
i never said you should not ask "why lime ?" i was saying its not making "it more acidic" its just the opposite; and maybe im really blinded, but i dont see a "?".... :wink:

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why lime? that will only make it more acidic. Gypsum calcium sulfate CaSO4 is what Stamets says to balance pH. Gypsum raises pH, so if the pH is acidic add gypsum to bring level closer to 7 or nuetral.





an second i never said i will grow pan cyan on wood,
i was A-S-K-I-N-G IF it will work,
this means i say : "i dont know" and want to know if someone knows..


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