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WHAT THE FUCK!
    #19148681 - 11/17/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I  have taken so many doses of shrooms and my body will not let me trip at all. I've waited 15 days and last night I take 3g of pans and just feel like shit the whole time but my wife is tripping face meditating in the he bathroom with candles. Same setting and same shrooms so I have no idea what the fuck is wrong with my brain. Can anyone please tell me why I'm not getting any visuals or much of an experience at all? Like I said wife trips every time but I don't..... I always try to do double the amount she does. She did 1.7 of pans last night and I did 3.2


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19148682 - 11/17/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

On any meds?


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: Tombc1]
    #19148721 - 11/17/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Only my flower and wax. Am I immune?


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19148727 - 11/17/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do you have OCD or any other control related issues? Appearently people who value control too much can have high resistance towards the effects.

(I'm speaking from what I've read in Stan Grof's LSD psychotherapy - I have no experience with resistance, although I've seen one guy I knew resist a rather large dose of LSD once. They guy is very vain and a general control freak... the 12 other people present tripped balls on the same dose. He reported no effects at all.)


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19148752 - 11/17/13 08:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you have OCD or any other control related issues? Appearently people who value control too much can have high resistance towards the effects.

(I'm speaking from what I've read in Stan Grof's LSD psychotherapy - I have no experience with resistance, although I've seen one guy I knew resist a rather large dose of LSD once. They guy is very vain and a general control freak... the 12 other people present tripped balls on the same dose. He reported no effects at all.)






Yes I have severe OCD


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19148757 - 11/17/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There is your answer.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19148760 - 11/17/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Read Stan Grof's LSD psychotherapy.

He has a section on it. I can't remember the details.
I only remember that it is very common for people with OCD to be unable to trip. The resistance is sky high.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19148764 - 11/17/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe start an OCD & psychedelics thread here to find out if there are others who have similar experiences? I'd be interested to read that.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19148796 - 11/17/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I found the paragraph on OCD & LSD in my .pdf copy of the LSD psychotherapy book:



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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19148805 - 11/17/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So basically I just need to keep tripping until my barrier is brought down over time. I see I see. I'll try new environments and settings.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19148808 - 11/17/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Damn this sucks, I wonder why I've developed OCD it just recently happened about a year ago


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19148834 - 11/17/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

And higher doses as well...

I'd make sure I wasn't on my own and in a safe environment (this is always good advice). I can imagine it could be overwhelming if you did finally break through.

I hope you can break through man, Grof also states that psychs are very beneficial in treating OCD although it can take a lot of effort.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19148844 - 11/17/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Late onset OCD is usually tied to a trigger like a very stressful event...


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19148862 - 11/17/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I had this happen. I took shrooms around 10 times in a month and afterwards the experience became predictable. You just have to not take them for like a month. You would trip if you took them before then but the visual aspect wont be as stunning. Mckenna stopped taking them because he had a freak out in his last mushroom trip ever because he said there was no meaning which is what I experienced. I know if I took them now I would definitely have a solid shulgin 3 at least.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: mindgnome]
    #19148878 - 11/17/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I had this happen. I took shrooms around 10 times in a month and afterwards the experience became predictable.




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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: mindgnome]
    #19149424 - 11/17/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have a very close friend who has had OCD most of his life.  He claimed that high doses of LSD coupled with harmala helped him break through some of his more annoying tendencies.  He now says that tripping is the now the only thing that keeps his OCD at bay.
I'd like you to keep in mind, we knew our source.  If you weren't 100% sure it was LSD I'd never take an MAOI with it.  Could be the diff between life and death if its something like 25i or some of the heartier RC's.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19149688 - 11/17/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Damn well I guess I'll be waiting awhile


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19149963 - 11/17/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Take a break from the weed for a week and try again.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: Heisenburn]
    #19149975 - 11/17/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

A strain with a high percentage of CBD could make it harder to trip, it's anti-psychotic.


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Re: WHAT THE FUCK! [Re: Hygrocybe]
    #19149987 - 11/17/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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A strain with a high percentage of CBD could make it harder to trip, it's anti-psychotic.




I'm on two pharmaceutical antipsychotics and they don't stop me from tripping.


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