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blojo02184
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To shake or not to shake... that is the question?
#19149672 - 11/17/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So this is the jar. same syringe as the cakes i got going currently. The Creeping Cakes
The jar in question. It is Rye grain, soaked 24 hrs, boiled for 5 min, then PC'd at 15psi for 90 mins.
 
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: blojo02184]
#19149685 - 11/17/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would wait couple days then shake.
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blojo02184
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: TheApprentice]
#19149703 - 11/17/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks bud. Thought it looked right for a shake with the growth i got but needed a second opinion.
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: TheApprentice]
#19149754 - 11/17/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks Quote:
TheApprentice said: I would wait couple days then shake.

Also to take better pictures next time don't hold the jar put it on a flat surface and then put the camera on a flat surface (use a book or something to make the camera's focus in the middle of the jar. Don't use a built in flash but if you can illuminate with diffused light as to not make glare or shadows then snap the picture.
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19149818 - 11/17/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd shake 'em
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: spacechildo]
#19149875 - 11/17/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've shook anywhere between 20-50% but I only shake one time, aside from to break it up to spawn once it reaches 100%
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: blojo02184]
#19149998 - 11/17/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd shake those yesterday. Looks like about a third of your jar is done.
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: Psilicon]
#19150074 - 11/17/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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after G2g I shake initially, spreads about 2 tablespoons evenly throughout jar. then shake at 50%, and 4-5 days later they good to go.
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: blindingleaf]
#19150480 - 11/17/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shake it, make sure to evenly distribute the mycelium.
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: blojo02184]
#19150678 - 11/17/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shake it
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#19150721 - 11/17/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shake it like it owes you money.
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: Darph_Bobo]
#19150908 - 11/17/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shake it! I had a jar less than that two days ago and shook. Its already 60%. I actually have two jars, one just shaken and the one shaken today. If you are interested I could post the difference and benefit of shaking jars.
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19151563 - 11/17/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Looks Quote:
TheApprentice said: I would wait couple days then shake.

can we get a "what SHE said" icon?
lol
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: TheApprentice]
#19151620 - 11/17/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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TheApprentice said:
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bodhisatta said: Looks Quote:
TheApprentice said: I would wait couple days then shake.

can we get a "what SHE said" icon?
lol

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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: blojo02184]
#19151807 - 11/17/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How long on that colonization OP?
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blojo02184
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19151818 - 11/17/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tomorrow I'll shake it like a crying baby. Then I'll soak more grain for the g2g transfers.
Since being knocked up, it's been around 2 weeks. Give or take 2 days. Life is hectic haha
Thanks guys
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: blojo02184]
#19151838 - 11/17/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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blojo02184 said: Tomorrow I'll shake it like a crying baby. Then I'll soak more grain for the g2g transfers.
Since being knocked up, it's been around 2 weeks. Give or take 2 days. Life is hectic haha
Thanks guys

Aren't you not supposed to soak if you're doing g2g?
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19151938 - 11/17/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said:
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blojo02184 said: Tomorrow I'll shake it like a crying baby. Then I'll soak more grain for the g2g transfers.
Since being knocked up, it's been around 2 weeks. Give or take 2 days. Life is hectic haha
Thanks guys

Aren't you not supposed to soak if you're doing g2g?
Yes, that's an obvious no. I wouldn't even try to inject sterile water before doing a g2g.
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19152096 - 11/17/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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JMcDoogle said:
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TheApprentice said:
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bodhisatta said: Looks Quote:
TheApprentice said: I would wait couple days then shake.

can we get a "what SHE said" icon?
lol


yes!
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: TheApprentice]
#19152118 - 11/17/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes!
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19152144 - 11/17/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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U a girl too??!
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: TheApprentice]
#19152176 - 11/17/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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no, but I said what he said when quoting you and that's what got this all started, so I'm just making it right this time
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19152882 - 11/18/13 05:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said:
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blojo02184 said: Tomorrow I'll shake it like a crying baby. Then I'll soak more grain for the g2g transfers.
Since being knocked up, it's been around 2 weeks. Give or take 2 days. Life is hectic haha
Thanks guys

Aren't you not supposed to soak if you're doing g2g?
The master jars should not be soaked. I think he meant prep more grain for the receiving jars.
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: spacechildo]
#19153303 - 11/18/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
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Sgt. Pepper said:
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blojo02184 said: Tomorrow I'll shake it like a crying baby. Then I'll soak more grain for the g2g transfers.
Since being knocked up, it's been around 2 weeks. Give or take 2 days. Life is hectic haha
Thanks guys

Aren't you not supposed to soak if you're doing g2g?
The master jars should not be soaked. I think he meant prep more grain for the receiving jars.
Exactly! Soak 24 hrs, boil for a couple to steam dry, then PC at 15psi for 90 minutes. Wait a day or two then g2g transfers.
How long can a grain jar sir before it dries out too much?
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: blojo02184] 1
#19157339 - 11/18/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't shake/break it up at any point before spawning to bulk, but not for any particular reason. Everyone's got their theories as to why you should or shouldn't, but I personally just inoculate and leave it there until it's done. Honestly, I don't know how much it really matters. Right now I've got some that are just inching along, so I'll give it a whirl.
PS: I tried PrimalSoup's method of consolidating the grain to improve potency, and so far he's right. It could just be bullshit, but others seem to be experiencing it, too.
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#19158815 - 11/19/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Consolidating does not increase potency. It's total bullshit.
Consolidating spawn can slow down colonization time once spawned to bulk.
Shaking a grain jar at 20% can take days off of colonization time.
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Edited by SpitballJedi (11/19/13 09:34 AM)
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19158820 - 11/19/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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Sgt. Pepper said:
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blojo02184 said: Tomorrow I'll shake it like a crying baby. Then I'll soak more grain for the g2g transfers.
Since being knocked up, it's been around 2 weeks. Give or take 2 days. Life is hectic haha
Thanks guys

Aren't you not supposed to soak if you're doing g2g?
Yes, that's an obvious no. I wouldn't even try to inject sterile water before doing a g2g.
Pretty sure he means soaking his grains so they could be PC'd to receive the G2G
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#19158959 - 11/19/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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same here, i dont shake them either, just let them colonize. 12 days usually with wbs this is for MS syringe the reason is, the spores have to mate, the closer they are to each other the better.
if u use lc u can shake it straight away after the inoculation lc is already mycelium, shake it shake it, to distribute it well in the whole jar
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: Aero]
#19159366 - 11/19/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Aero... After a jar is colonized around 20-30%, the dikaryotic mycelium has already formed...
Therefore you can shake. This is MS injection.
I told you on the other post, read more!
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#19167132 - 11/20/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi said: Consolidating does not increase potency. It's total bullshit.
Consolidating spawn can slow down colonization time once spawned to bulk.
Shaking a grain jar at 20% can take days off of colonization time.
I dunno, my tub was fully colonized in a week. Considering the size of the tub, I'd say a week was pretty quick. Leaving the grain jars fully colonized for 3 weeks wasn't intentional but circumstances dictated that it needed to happen. After the tub had fully colonized, I let it sit another week and introduced it into fruiting conditions. Have you ever tried consolidating grain? I'm going to do it a few more times to see if it was just an anomaly or not.
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Re: To shake or not to shake... that is the question? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#19167168 - 11/20/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, I have let grain jars consolidate. Sometimes it results in slower substrate colonization and sometimes it don't.
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