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    #19135415 - 11/14/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

During extraction of 5-meo-DMT from anadenanthera seeds are there any methods to make bigger crystals? This isn't a big deal but I am extremely curious.


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: pop]
    #19135664 - 11/14/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Never heard a tek to get 5-MeO-DMT from a natural source.  Care to share?

If it has the solubility of n,n-DMT, then dissolve in warm bestine, cover in foil and slow evaporate in a dark place.


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: mattritt]
    #19139500 - 11/15/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

either that or, double boil your solvent in a glass container suspended over boiling water with a sieve (so it doesn't get too hot).  wilst the solvent is boiling add just enough solvent to your product to disolve.  The idea is you want your solvent really hot and with as little as you can and it still fully disolve.
Once its completely dissolved, cover and throw in the freezer. as it gets cold alternate between the freezer/fridge/room temp.  The idea is that when you raise the temp back up it melts the smaller crystals and makes them build onto the bigger structures. :wizard:


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19139653 - 11/15/13 03:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry, but that's not how it works. The crystals will not melt, they will redissolve. What you suggest would make lots of tiny crystals and then the tiny crystals will dissolve. Then it starts all over again.

The longer it takes to crystallize, the bigger the crystals will be. You want the highest temperature possible which still allows the crystals to form.

A couple years ago a sort of prominent member found a jar of solvent in which he had left a small amount of DMT. He planned to reuse the solvent. He went to find his jar, which had been sitting at room temp for months. When he found the jar, he also found giant, perfectly clear crystals which he took pictures of and posted on this forum. I can't remember who it was.


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: healing]
    #19139778 - 11/15/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

if everyone else is partially mistaken, I recall the main factor for how big your crystals get during crystallisation being how long it takes for the crystals to form. If you could gradually cool it down to 0 degrees from a little higher than room temperature over a week I think you'd get pretty nice looking structures. if you use the right proportions of solvent/dmt, the crystals can tower over the top of the solvent


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: thud thud]
    #19139856 - 11/15/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not sure about 5meo, but I know with nn, dwpineal has probally made the largest single crystal I've seen.  I think he evaporated his solvent very slowly(covering the jar partially) at room temp.

Here's a link to said crystal..  http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/show_image.php?i=dmt/dmt_crystal__i2010e0148_disp.jpg


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: Kief Ledger]
    #19140393 - 11/15/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

5-MEO-DMT tek huh? could you link me? that sounds legit.


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: healing]
    #19140472 - 11/15/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry, but that's not how it works. The crystals will not melt, they will redissolve. What you suggest would make lots of tiny crystals and then the tiny crystals will dissolve. Then it starts all over again.

The longer it takes to crystallize, the bigger the crystals will be. You want the highest temperature possible which still allows the crystals to form.

A couple years ago a sort of prominent member found a jar of solvent in which he had left a small amount of DMT. He planned to reuse the solvent. He went to find his jar, which had been sitting at room temp for months. When he found the jar, he also found giant, perfectly clear crystals which he took pictures of and posted on this forum. I can't remember who it was.



In a way your right, but the idea is you alternate temperatures to achieve the effect of melting small crystals and then throwing it back in the freezer to build on the bigger ones.  What that does is promote homogenous crystal growth though freeze precipitation.
It's just another route :shrug:


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19140484 - 11/15/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You're totally right, and as long as the solvent didn't get above... I dunno like 40-50 degrees F the larger crystals wouldn't break down as easily.


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19142370 - 11/15/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry, but that's not how it works. The crystals will not melt, they will redissolve. What you suggest would make lots of tiny crystals and then the tiny crystals will dissolve. Then it starts all over again.

The longer it takes to crystallize, the bigger the crystals will be. You want the highest temperature possible which still allows the crystals to form.

A couple years ago a sort of prominent member found a jar of solvent in which he had left a small amount of DMT. He planned to reuse the solvent. He went to find his jar, which had been sitting at room temp for months. When he found the jar, he also found giant, perfectly clear crystals which he took pictures of and posted on this forum. I can't remember who it was.



In a way your right, but the idea is you alternate temperatures to achieve the effect of melting small crystals and then throwing it back in the freezer to build on the bigger ones.  What that does is promote homogenous crystal growth though freeze precipitation.
It's just another route :shrug:




Again, the crystals do not melt. They dissolve. You do not know what you're talking about.

The slower the crystal forms, the bigger the crystals can be. Chem. 101.


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: thud thud]
    #19142388 - 11/15/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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if everyone else is partially mistaken, I recall the main factor for how big your crystals get during crystallisation being how long it takes for the crystals to form. If you could gradually cool it down to 0 degrees from a little higher than room temperature over a week I think you'd get pretty nice looking structures. if you use the right proportions of solvent/dmt, the crystals can tower over the top of the solvent




This guy has it right.


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: healing]
    #19148766 - 11/17/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Haha reading this made me laugh for some reason. Does any body know if it would be possible to do a rock candy tek? Like put tons of dmt into solution and let it slowly recrystalize?


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: doozieman]
    #19148852 - 11/17/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Haha reading this made me laugh for some reason. Does any body know if it would be possible to do a rock candy tek? Like put tons of dmt into solution and let it slowly recrystalize?




That's what we're talking about.


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: healing]
    #19150045 - 11/17/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

go to the nexus, they have plenty of threads on making big shards.

imo if its clean theres no point, as soon as its touched by heat itll melt.


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: bishlap]
    #19158791 - 11/19/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So about this 5-meo tek? Afriend gave me a g of it and i love it!!  Did almost the whole thing the other night on 6-APB.


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: doozieman]
    #19158806 - 11/19/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Haha reading this made me laugh for some reason. Does any body know if it would be possible to do a rock candy tek? Like put tons of dmt into solution and let it slowly recrystalize?




thats what DMT extractions are.

you supersaturate your non-polar solvent.

and then you precipitate the DMT out of the solvent.



you would call precipitation "recrystalizing"


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: k00laid]
    #19162565 - 11/19/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

A Gram of five meo in a night?? I'm calling bullshit or you got balls the size of a bull. Or you were zplitting it amongst ten people. Having smoked five meo that stuff is no freaking joke. 7 mg bent me over and spanked me


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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: Saint Marcus]
    #19162620 - 11/19/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I was doing it intranasal and plugged mostly.  Keep in mind I was rolling face.  I had done 140 mgs of 6-APB plugged and had done more earlier in the night.  I think that had a huge effect on my ability to handle it.  I had smoked some a couple times throughout it.  But it seemed to resolve to nasal being the best. 

I never weighed it but my friend said he had gotten a gram and only used a tiny bit.  Atleast a half g, for sure.  And trust me I would never have expected that, but throw stimulants my way and my tendency is to binge out.  I know once the 6-APB wore off I was instantly confused and wanted it to stop and ate some etizolam and passed out.

I doubt id do it again unless rolling.  I have a tiny bit left.  I wanna do some good MDMA and try it mixed with n,n-DMT :deemsters:
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Re: giant DMT crystals [Re: pop]
    #25507659 - 10/02/18 09:38 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

You looking for these?



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