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    #19147946 - 11/17/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Here is the most interesting Nova episode I have seen in a very long time.  I look forward to what people here have to say about it.  The stuff about the weird muscle antifreeze was very exciting to me since I would like to be cryogenically frozen when I die.

Making stuff colder


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Schmendrick]
    #19147969 - 11/17/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Here is the most interesting Nova episode I have seen in a very long time.  I look forward to what people here have to say about it.  The stuff about the weird muscle antifreeze was very exciting to me since I would like to be cryogenically frozen when I die.

Making stuff colder




I can't wait till they try to bring Ted Williams back

Edit: I guess that will never happen :sad:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/The-sad-story-of-frozen-Ted-Williams-somehow-get?urn=mlb,193652


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: thizzlemaniac] * 2
    #19147981 - 11/17/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why would you ever want to be cryogenically frozen? Just curious.


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    #19147990 - 11/17/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Why would you ever want to be cryogenically frozen? Just curious.




Narcissism :shrug:


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #19148008 - 11/17/13 12:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Why would you ever want to be cryogenically frozen? Just curious.





Because I am an atheist, I don't believe in silly myths about an afterlife or souls.  I want to physically live as long as it is possible to do so because I love the fact that I am here, that I have this chance at consciousness, and I want to see what humanity is really capable of once we move past our petty hatred for each other, stop being ruled by iron age mythology and really embrace science.

Ideally, I would amass a fortune while I am alive now, invest it wisely, get cryogenically frozen at the first sign of real physical or mental illness, and wake up in perhaps 3 or 4 hundred years with some REAL money (or whatever we have by then), at which point I would have my brain transferred to a machine, then have the brain itself converted to synthetic materials atom by atom, preserving the consciousness within.

Fuck being a cyborg.  Fuck even being a robot.  I want to be a starship and explore the universe for eternity.

Yes, basically narcissism. 


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Schmendrick] * 5
    #19148015 - 11/17/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nobody is going to revive you in 400 years man. :shrug:


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #19148022 - 11/17/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Nobody is going to revive you in 400 years man. :shrug:




Once cryogenic freezing and revival becomes a real, repeatable scenario, there will be companies who specialize in long term storage.  I intend to avail myself of their services.  You go ahead and die if you want.  I do not intend to.  Ever.


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Schmendrick] * 2
    #19148055 - 11/17/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Because I am an atheist, I don't believe in silly myths about an afterlife or souls. 

I want to see what humanity is really capable of once we move past our petty hatred for each other, stop being ruled by iron age mythology and really embrace science.






Another spiteful atheist who thinks that refuting religion refutes all spirituality by proxy.
How original :rolleyes:


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #19148063 - 11/17/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Because I am an atheist, I don't believe in silly myths about an afterlife or souls. 

I want to see what humanity is really capable of once we move past our petty hatred for each other, stop being ruled by iron age mythology and really embrace science.






Another spiteful atheist who thinks that refuting religion refutes all spirituality by proxy.
How original :rolleyes:


Your reality is a direct reflection of yourself.
If you want to remain aware of only the most superficial levels of reality, so be it.





Prove me wrong.  Die, and then come back and tell me how great the afterlife really is. You do that, and I promise I will convert to whatever religion/belief system you specify.


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Schmendrick] * 1
    #19148071 - 11/17/13 12:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I can't teach you anything about the nature of you.
Only you can do that yourself.
All you have to do is sit down and close your eyes.



As to proving the afterlife; if you need physical evidence you're looking in the wrong places.


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Schmendrick]
    #19148076 - 11/17/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Either way I think the planet will be a real shit hole in a few hundred years


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: thizzlemaniac]
    #19148093 - 11/17/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Either way I think the planet will be a real shit hole in a few hundred years



I'm inclined to agree, it's entirely possible the world will do the complete opposite of getting better and stop fighting.

Either way I highly doubt you will live long enough to see even remotely successful cryogenics in you life time.


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #19148098 - 11/17/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I can't teach you anything about the nature of you.
Only you can do that yourself.
All you have to do is sit down and close your eyes.



As to proving the afterlife; if you need physical evidence you're looking in the wrong places.




Look, I get it.  You need to feel special and you cannot deal with the cold harshness of reality so you embrace religion or spirituality or magic or fucking crystals and candles or whatever to make you feel at one with... I dunno, eternity or something.

But when you die, you will still be worm food and none of your happy feelings or illusions will fly out of the vast, eternal dark to save you.  You won't care of course, you won't exist anymore.  But I will... I will be revelling in the beauty of the universe, reality and everything it has to offer.

So go ahead and die if you want.  Die with a smile on your face, knowing with all your heart that you were right all along, that the stupid douchebag atheist you met online is just a closed minded idiot and won't open himself to the 'higher levels' of consciousness or whatever,  and that eternal happiness awaits you with all your friends smiling and singing.  I shall be happy that you died in peace.

but I still won't want to follow you.


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Schmendrick]
    #19148120 - 11/17/13 01:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Your focusing on the wrong things. It's about the eternal moment that is now.
Not the fear of nonexistence.

If you've ever fully experienced ego death then you know what it's like to shed your self and become one with everything.
It feels good, and there's nothing to be afraid of about it.


That being said; energy is neither created nor destroyed, and we have a poor understanding to the origin of sentience.
Much of western society operates on the belief that awareness stems from the brain, as does the entirety of our consciousness; but this is as much an assumption of the medical community as the previously held belief that homosexuality is a neurosis of the mind. Science hasn't come far enough to fully understand the depths of our consciousness, but looking at the implications of some of our newer developments (quantum mechanics and quantum physics), we clearly know very little about reality.


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #19148131 - 11/17/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I agree completely.  We have a LOT to learn about reality, and my opinions are not set in stone.  If future experimentation shows that humans do, in fact, have something akin to a soul which continues on after death, then I would be a fool to want to stay in my physical form forever.

It's about the wonder and adventure of life, after all, and if life continues beyond death in any meaningful way then I will eventually decide that I want to experience that.

But trust me, it would have to be a LONG established scientific theory backed up by tons of facts, evidence and experimentation to make me want to blow my brains out and experience it.


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Schmendrick] * 2
    #19148155 - 11/17/13 01:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why are you so scared of death? It is just a part of the cycle that is life.


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Shroomism]
    #19148164 - 11/17/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i love Nova and that was a great episode the quantum computers are the next gen of tech someday but man the possabilities of being able to figure any math problem in existence in seconds could change the way we think  in alot of ways.


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Shroomism]
    #19148178 - 11/17/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Why are you so scared of death? It is a part of the cycle that is life.




I'm really not.  I am at peace with it, and I know that it will happen eventually.  Whether that is tomorrow, in 50 years, 500, ten million, or when the universe eventually collapses back on itself to begin anew.  Eventually, the amazing self-aware collection of atoms that is me will cease to exist, and I am OK with that.

I would just rather it be later than sooner is all.  Life is amazing, and I am one of the truly lucky ones.  Not only do I belong to a species which, at this point, exists mostly outside the true savagery of nature, but I am lucky to have no specific ailments,  to live in a well developed nation, to be self employed and relatively well off.  I am enjoying myself, and I wish to lengthen the experience as much as possible.

Am I selfish?  Absolutely.  And I make no apologies for it.  I am well aware of the suffering throughout the world, and I will always do what I can to alleviate it, but don't expect me to trade places with anyone, and don't expect me to die if I have a choice.



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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: lighthouse09]
    #19148184 - 11/17/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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i love Nova and that was a great episode the quantum computers are the next gen of tech someday but man the possabilities of being able to figure any math problem in existence in seconds could change the way we think  in alot of ways.




Yeah, and I didn't know the new F-35s had quantum computers in them.  At least, that is what was implied.  Maybe they just intend to have them ASAP.


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Re: Making Stuff Colder. [Re: Shroomism]
    #19148196 - 11/17/13 01:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Why are you so scared of death? It is just a part of the cycle that is life.




There are lot's of cycles.  Doesn't mean we have to partake in them.  Humans are no longer a part of the food chain after all.  Why should death be any different?

If you guys are so into the Lion King and being a part of the circle of life, taking part in cycles just because they are 'natural, man', then why don't you go spend a few nights in the African Savannah?  That's 'cycley' as fuck.  You might even get to experience the wondrous cycle that is the joint intestinal tract of a pack of Hyenas.  Wouldn't that be great?


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