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OfflineJazzMatazz
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Colonised casing
    #1914803 - 09/14/03 07:16 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Ive been growing for roughly a year now, but still haven^t figured, one thing:
When is the casing ready to initiate pinning. The FAQ , and other sources say "cover mycelium peeking out of the casing up" to get an even pinset. This for me means no mycelium should peek out when starting pinning. On growlogs however most casings are colonised , and the people get monster flushes!
I myself have to grow in secrecy in a PC Case. This is not 100% air-tight and I have now temp measuring tools. I don't know if a lac of humidity decreybeases my flushes , or if its the wrong casing-mycelium-coverage.
So, to keep it a precise and simple question:
How much mycelium can you see on your casing before initiating the pinning phase?

How much water do you use on your casing per day in the pinning stage and later on? (In "squirts per day" maybe. :wink: )

thankyou ,once again, to everyone who answers,
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Re: Colonised casing [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #1914936 - 09/14/03 10:31 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

2 parts peat moss, 1 part gypsum, 1 part calcium carbonate, 1 part water. Sterlize then case in a bowl. Cover your casing with plastic wrap so it keeps humidity in. Then you don't have to add water evry day.


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Re: Colonised casing [Re: THATS iT!]
    #1915305 - 09/14/03 02:09 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

thanks, but somehow the question wasnt simple enough...
When do you initiate pinning???!!! When its all white, or not?


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Re: Colonised casing [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #1915313 - 09/14/03 02:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

It varies depending on who you're talking to, but I initiate pinning when 20-30% of the casing is showing mycellial growth.


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Re: Colonised casing [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #1915326 - 09/14/03 02:14 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

My friend initiates pinning when he can see mycelium fairly evenly across the casing. Not when it reaches the surface - when he can see it.

If part of the casing is ahead of the rest he lightly patches that area and waits a bit longer.


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Re: Colonised casing [Re: philnweird]
    #1917372 - 09/15/03 04:51 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

thanks to dog and philnwierd for your answers. So i want a grey layer ,indicating mycelia-growth under the surface.


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Re: Colonised casing [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #1917421 - 09/15/03 05:51 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

This thread is much the same as this thread...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1

Check that one JazzMatazz.


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Re: Colonised casing [Re: Starter]
    #1924687 - 09/17/03 11:47 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks starter. They talk of "white" as overlay, but Mycelium is always white. I never manage to get a grey shading on my casing (ok, so I had cobweb once :wink: ), but only white fluffs of mycelium. I though that this already meant overlay. I wasnt here for a few days when my casing was supposed to start pinning, and it had no light, humidity or air exchange. The reslut was a casing , covered as if it where a substrate and so I figure that overlay is white too. Am I wrong?
The casing in the other
thread
only has small wite dots every now and then. I have this too and cover them up for three days too. Then I case it, but get a very uneven flush. Another I saw(and most of Joshua's do too) are covered with a grey layer (mycelium shining through) or virtually fully colonised.
- Oh it^s so frickin difficult, couldnt someone post two pics. One showing overlay , the other the perfect casing.
Sorry for seemingly being the only person dumb enough not to be getting it...
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Re: Colonised casing [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #1933881 - 09/20/03 12:06 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

The left side of this casing is optimal for pin initiation. The right side is a bit too colonised, but will work.



I think it is better to initiate pinning with less casing colonization. I would prefer my casings to look like the left half of the above pic. Very often I introduce my casings too late. It is a dynamic subject. If you want your casing layer to last longer, initiate early. If you want a prolific flush, initiate in the middle. If you want to be lazy and forgetful (like me), introduce too late.

To each...their own, in the end.

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Re: Colonised casing [Re: Joshua]
    #1933999 - 09/20/03 12:46 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Well put Joshua.


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Re: Colonised casing [Re: GoodOlBattonAss]
    #1935174 - 09/20/03 12:17 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

It doesnt have to be all white just mycelia peaking through in places. Pinning at this time will spread out your flushes and decrease chance of contam.


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Re: Colonised casing [Re: THATS iT!]
    #1935273 - 09/20/03 01:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Ive found that if you have colonized casing surface it brings about aborts and small mushrooms. They have tendency not to get "rooted" into the casing layer, instead growing on the top of it. They eventually abort or fall over after a while.


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Re: Colonised casing [Re: Psilopleix]
    #1937242 - 09/21/03 06:25 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

thanks to all of you for your great advice. Especially Joshua's pic is great! Should put it into the FAQ.


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