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AnarchoV
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Oat Groats contaminated?
#19140821 - 11/15/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I attempted to experiment with oat groats for grain spawn. I was unable to find rye or wheat berries. WBS was a little expensive. I was worried about moisture content of cracked corn. So I thought WTH. Anyways, I am a bit worried about a couple of the jars. There is growth on the side of the jar which makes me think it is cobweb. Any input would help.
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JohnnieYen
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: AnarchoV]
#19140871 - 11/15/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Those jars do not look healthy.
and WBS is not expensive. Not sure where you are shopping but its like 10 bucks.
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AnarchoV
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: JohnnieYen]
#19140884 - 11/15/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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For GE I have a hole drilled through the lid and poly fiber for a filter. Just made some new lids with RTV for inoculation points.
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AnarchoV
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: AnarchoV]
#19140892 - 11/15/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I shopped at tractor supply and lowes for wbs. It was about double the price of oat groats. I got a 50# bag of oats for like $14. WBS was like $25 for a 20# bag.
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JohnnieYen
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: AnarchoV]
#19140899 - 11/15/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think your problem is your moisture content with oats. I've never used them but it seems that it could be difficult to get the moisture levels dialed in.
Shortcuts in this hobby usually lead to disaster. Do some reading, find a tek, and follow it to the tee.
Once you have at least one process down, go experiment on you own and document it.
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JohnnieYen
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: AnarchoV]
#19140902 - 11/15/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hope you like eating oats...
why not go to the bulk bins in supermarkets or pet stores? Use the better grains and you will not end up wasting a bunch of time and spores.
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JohnnieYen
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: AnarchoV]
#19140914 - 11/15/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I get my rye grains at a feed store. 60 lbs for 25$
Rye is by far the easiest and most consistent grain to use IMO. Perfectly hydrated dry grains every time.
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AnarchoV
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: JohnnieYen]
#19140918 - 11/15/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I read the tek there was for oat groats. Most people said follow the same tek as rye berries. Some said don't simmer. I simmered for about 30 mins. If I did it again, I would probably cut down on the simmer time to like 20 mins. It has been a pain finding reasonably priced grains. I live in a very very rural area and I am surrounded by corn, but no other grains.
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AnarchoV
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: AnarchoV]
#19140926 - 11/15/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I called every feed store in the area. None of them had rye. I looked as far as two hours away. Finally found a organic farm in Kansas, but they never got back with me. Luckily, I found a farm supply that can get white or red winter wheat just last week.
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twistedty
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: AnarchoV]
#19140931 - 11/15/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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damn wally world has wbs for like 8 bux for 20lbs, i usually go that route. id say moisture content was off in your oats any grain should work
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AnarchoV
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: twistedty]
#19140951 - 11/15/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ugh! I hate wally world, but I guess I will have to break down and look at their WBS prices. I will just have to accept being in a shitty mood after venturing in walmart. Guess I will just cut through automotive or garden section.
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: AnarchoV]
#19140966 - 11/15/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
AnarchoV said: Ugh! I hate wally world, but I guess I will have to break down and look at their WBS prices. I will just have to accept being in a shitty mood after venturing in walmart. Guess I will just cut through automotive or garden section.
i hate it as well which is why i steal or price switch everytime i go. self checkout i lold i make a killing bro
FUCK WALMART
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refried

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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: twistedty]
#19141794 - 11/15/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Damn maybe it's just me but I'd rather pay 35 bucks for a 50lb bag of rye.
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: refried]
#19145972 - 11/16/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jeepers, even chicken scratch grains are only 15 bucks for 50#. 4 or 5 different grains in that stuff. I haven't experimented much with them - just whole in a few normal jars and ground up in a couple of 'pf chickens'. Didn't break up well, but worked in all cases, nothing really any different than anything else imo. All grains will work for you. Rye is recommended, its nutritious, easy to deal with, and the size lends to breaking up well in the jar.
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twistedty
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: refried]
#19146152 - 11/16/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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refried said: Damn maybe it's just me but I'd rather pay 35 bucks for a 50lb bag of rye.[/quote
ive used both and i would rather pay the extra for wbs, extra innoc points and personal preference i have the simmer cycle down on wbs
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AnarchoV
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: twistedty]
#19165207 - 11/20/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the Wally World info. I was able to purchase some WBS for $7 for a 20# bag. I bought a couple to get started.
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Re: Oat Groats contaminated? [Re: AnarchoV]
#19165650 - 11/20/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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AnarchoV said: Thanks for the Wally World info. I was able to purchase some WBS for $7 for a 20# bag. I bought a couple to get started.
now rinse it a few times, you dont have to throw all the floaters away, let soak for 12 hours and once it hits a rolling boil dump in strainer and let it steam dry load jars 2/3 full and pc for 90 mins @15psi and inoculate once they cool naturally
and keep us posted
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