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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19141292 - 11/15/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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One of the fruiting dishes has dropped it's spores onto the agar so I just cut up the agar and transferred them to a new dish along with a few of the other's that had fruited. The last pic is the original dish plumped up and it's been cut up and transferred as well.
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What do you make of these? I cut the cap off one to make a print and look at the stem it's almost black.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19141556 - 11/15/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks like spores to me I usually print my caps sooner than most people as I find that a lot have dropped by the time the veil completely tears and the cap starts to flatten.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19142033 - 11/15/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It hadn't dropped any spores until after I handled them, look at them again.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19142056 - 11/15/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here are 2 pics from other growers one is on the shroomery are they similar? other than the thicker stems?
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145483 - 11/16/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here are some pictures from free spores.

Here is the fruiting dish of potato agar with ryzomorphic growth.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145503 - 11/16/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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those are cubes
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145514 - 11/16/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The underneath of my giant cube and a cube and cyan cap side by side.

You can see the difference in not only the gills and gill color but where it's been cut is also different as it should be.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145523 - 11/16/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're saying that the picture from free sprores.com are cubes? you can see the gills are not the same on the pan as on cubes.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145535 - 11/16/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The pictures from free spores are pan cyan Hawaiian not cubes.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145539 - 11/16/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The ones on the agar, looks like purple spores and the stem does not look like pan.
I know the cap doesn't look quite rite but that could be it didn't get sun baked. The color of the spores will tell you.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19145560 - 11/16/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It spored black and you don't need the spores you can look at the gills.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145572 - 11/16/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do the gills on the 2 caps look alike? A cube is a cube and the gills will still be the same.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19145591 - 11/16/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What about it doesn't look like pan to you?
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145609 - 11/16/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Everything... they just look wrong.
But if the print is black, it is pan.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145621 - 11/16/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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These are from the shroomery and online the first is a cube the rest are cyans.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145631 - 11/16/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Indeed I see what you are saying.
They are definitely pan., nice work btw.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19145632 - 11/16/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Please be more specific. I've shown you the gills of both a cube and pan from not only a sponsor but from other growers on the shroomery please tell me exactly what is not right, remember the one on agar won't get as big but you can see now it's pan.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19145638 - 11/16/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks it's taking me lots and lots of work.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145773 - 11/16/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This picture plus you telling me spore print was black tells me pan. for sure.
The cap is dark on the top, and it is split which is not common for Pan. The stems are dark and fiberous looking with slightly bulbous bases. Pan. copelandia is usually pearl white, uniform from base to cap, and brittle.
You have some strange morphological characteristics..
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19146029 - 11/16/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have had light brown cyans before, if you read Paul Stamets Psilobcybin Mushrooms of the World on page 75 under Panaeolus Cyanescens Cap: Cap cracking horizontally in age with irregular fractures and in drying.
Also I think how it's grown also affects how it looks.
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