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golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request
    #19145038 - 11/16/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When I saw these from about 50 feet away, I was hoping for gyms. No such luck.




Let me know what you guys think it is.  If it is indeed the golden pholiota, I've read that they are edible. If this is the case, have any of you tried them? What would be a good method for prepping them?

Also, I'd like to have these ID'd



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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: MarcusFreeman]
    #19145057 - 11/16/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The second one looks like a Lepista species to me.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: Untitled]
    #19145253 - 11/16/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks! Any idea on the species?


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: MarcusFreeman]
    #19145679 - 11/16/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Pholiota squarrosa for number one (sorry about the spelling, I'm being lazy lol)


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: art2312]
    #19145692 - 11/16/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Don't hold me to that and please don't make any decisions on consumption because of anything I have to say :smile: just throwing it out there to compare, cool finds tho :smile:


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: art2312]
    #19145709 - 11/16/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks man! I'll look that up as soon as I get home. I did not pick the cluster, but it is only a few minutes from my house. If it is an edible, ill go grab em


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: MarcusFreeman]
    #19145793 - 11/16/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks! Any idea on the species?



Nah I've not seen a Lepista species like that. It just seems to have the characteristics of one.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: Untitled]
    #19145887 - 11/16/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They are Pholiota aurivella.  That being said, the only thing I know about their edibility is that its contested.

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The second one looks like a Lepista species to me.




Sure does!  It's so pale though I don't think its L. nuda.  Even washed out ones tend to show some signs of purple.  I wonder if its something cool like Lepista irina?


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: Lhun]
    #19146359 - 11/16/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Lhun! That was my instinctive first thought after referring to my field guides. One book says that it is a good edible- but use caution. The other book says that they should be avoided. Some people have had gastric upset after consumption. That same book says that the texture and taste resemble marshmallows with out sugar. 

Pass. Lol


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: MarcusFreeman]
    #19146371 - 11/16/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The second one might be Clitocybe brunneocephala.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: art2312]
    #19146389 - 11/16/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Pholiota squarrosa for number one (sorry about the spelling, I'm being lazy lol)




careful Art! you may have A Rock fall on you for that!


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: MarcusFreeman]
    #19146391 - 11/16/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just for fun: I did find some Pleurotus sp as well.




Thanks Alan! I'll look those up as well.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19146442 - 11/16/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The second one might be Clitocybe brunneocephala.




I think that might be it. I REALLY need a microscope. I am going to order one.

Any good suggestions? I want to be able to use it for anything needed for IDing and I'd like to be able to take pictures of spores to post for IDing. If I'm going to make the purchase, id rather spend more and get something good than a cheap piece of junk that will have to be replaced soon.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: MarcusFreeman]
    #19146504 - 11/16/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Since you are new to microscopy you should get the cheap scopes, and if you end up liking them in a few years you can get something nice.

An Amscope B-100ms does everything you need for $200, also you need some immersion oil type A and a reticle and camera.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19146742 - 11/16/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.amscope.com/ep10x23r.html

How does this look for the reticle?

Do you have a camera recommendation?


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: MarcusFreeman]
    #19146878 - 11/16/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

One final additional id request.

Puff ball: what type? Is it edible? I hear that the white centers mean edible.


Hydnum repandum? *Dentinum repandum*



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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: MarcusFreeman]
    #19147916 - 11/16/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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http://www.amscope.com/ep10x23r.html

How does this look for the reticle?

Do you have a camera recommen dation?





Looks good, but if you are going to use a camera then you need a stage micrometer, not a reticle.

I suggest a Canon 60d with an adapter from microscopenet.com and the wired remote shutter release.  Not the cheapest microscope camera but you deserve some badass gear for putting up with your hilarious wife.

The puffball looks like a Handkea.

Your Hydnum looks like H. umbilicatum.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19148042 - 11/17/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Which stage micrometer do you recommend?
They are ludicrously expensive for what you are getting...


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19148660 - 11/17/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.amscope.com/mr400.html

Would this stage micrometer do the trick?

Thanks for the advice, Alan! I'll look into the camera today too.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: MarcusFreeman]
    #19148754 - 11/17/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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The second one might be Clitocybe brunneocephala.




I think that might be it. I REALLY need a microscope. I am going to order one.




Actually, this is were a microscope won't help too much, smell and general location (State? Country?) would help more.  I find C. brunneocephala here, its usually more brown on the cap ime.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: Byrain]
    #19148784 - 11/17/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm in the south east US. Lower Appalachian area.


They actually are a little more Brown in person than in the pics. The pics gave them a pink-Brown hue. It is relatively close, but in the pics the brown doesn't show as well as the pink.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: MarcusFreeman]
    #19148791 - 11/17/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think its C. brunneocephala then which is a species known only from California as far as I'm aware.  There are other species in that group it could be, I'm not really sure which one though.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: Byrain]
    #19148816 - 11/17/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Are there any toxic mushrooms in that group? I haven't eaten any of my findings, but I sure would like to- only if it is safe. I will likely go collect a few more hydnum and try those today. I read that they resemble chants in flavor and texture.  That's a good thing. I've been craving some chants, but the season is done.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: MarcusFreeman]
    #19148831 - 11/17/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What do they smell like?  I'm not sure there are any poisonous species in the blewit group, but I don't have any experience in your area either.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: Byrain]
    #19148863 - 11/17/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I did not notice any particular smell. I'll cut one in half and see if I can pick up on any scent


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: MarcusFreeman]
    #19148886 - 11/17/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm.  Maybe nutty? Maybe fruity/sweet smelling. Mixed with mushroom smell. Not foul smelling at all, but I can't pin point the smell. It smells good, imo.

I've smelled some mushrooms before that are NASTY. I wouldn't put this smell anywhere near them.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19149766 - 11/17/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Which stage micrometer do you recommend?
They are ludicrously expensive for what you are getting...




There are some on ebay for $13 plus shipping, they come from China though so it will probably take a week to arrive.


Usually they cost around $30.  Perhaps it is easy to make these micrometer slides cheaply but I have not yet found a way.


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Re: golden pholiota? (pholiota aurivella) and an ID request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19150163 - 11/17/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ravioli with mushroom cream sauce is in the works.


If it is good, I'll can some and save for a later date


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