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OfflineDudeonacid
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5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf
    #19144875 - 11/16/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys. I had my first shroom trip last thursday and it was an interesting experience while it lasted. I actually posted my first thread on here in anticipation of the 5 gram experience. Thats right. I took 5gs of some good looking shrooms despite advice against it.

Anyways I dosed at around 10:00 pm and chilled in my room writing a book report. I had a little bit of come up anxiety until I noticed the first effects about 45 mins in. AWESOME tracers. Then before I knew it I closed my eyes and saw really neat color morphing. Then it wasn't long before I saw colors glowing from my computer screen and in my peripherals. All effects were gone by 1:00 am.

Only problem was I got ZERO mindset change. Nothing. I was still myself with only visual perception changes. I was sober but seeing colors for a mere 2 and a half hours. I was very dissapointed as I was hoping for a solid 4-8 hour trip. Im a small guy (145 lbs) and 5gs really should have destroyed me. I guess ill patch it up to being a weak batch but im really confused as to why my mindset never changed. Not a single philosophical thought or anything.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Im planning to pick up 6gs of a seperate strain in a couple days and try again. But maybe Shrooms just dont effect me like they do others? Im pretty dissapointed in the experience although the colors were simply amazing.

But yeah. No hallucinations. Just colors/tracers.  No mindset change. 2 hours? help? haha

thanks in advance guys.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Dudeonacid]
    #19144925 - 11/16/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Try again but give it a week in between


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Dudeonacid]
    #19144934 - 11/16/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Are you sure they were DRY mushrooms? If they were fresh this would explain why you had such minimal effects.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Icanos]
    #19144969 - 11/16/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

To be honest im not sure. How can you tell? I could post a picture of them.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Dudeonacid]
    #19144976 - 11/16/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like tolerance, have you been tripping with he last two weeks?


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: LysergicX7]
    #19144989 - 11/16/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They should have been cracker dry, not flexible at all.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Dudeonacid]
    #19144992 - 11/16/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

are you on any sort of medication like prozac or lithium?


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Icanos]
    #19145000 - 11/16/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Everyone is different. And no one is the same person at 2 different times in their life. Add to this, the fact that mushies are HIGHLY variable from shroom to shroom in potency and you have a bit of a dilemma. While JOE may get complete ego death at 3.5 grams TODD may take 10gms. And it will ALLWAYS change. The ego by its very nature is a self preservationist. It takes practice to get where you want and what you want. Some folks will hang on way harder because they don't feel safe to let go. Others will roll easily into a state of acceptance.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Icanos]
    #19145015 - 11/16/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Icanos said:
Are you sure they were DRY mushrooms? If they were fresh this would explain why you had such minimal effects.




Why would them being fresh explain how he had such minimal effects? Fresh Psilocybin mushrooms will ALWAYS have more alkaloids in them since they have had less exposure to oxidation and everything else that affects potency.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: LysergicX7]
    #19145039 - 11/16/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No this was my first time ever.

And now im trying to remember. I tried to break one of the stems just to see and it snapped pretty easy. but not too easy. Not sure. :frown:

And no im on no medications. I occasionally take adderall but that was a week before the experience. Is it more possible that shrooms just affect me that way? i didn't hallucinate at all. Just color perception and tracers. I was physically messed up for about an hour but like I said mentally i was straight as an arrow. Actually maybe a bit more alert.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #19145054 - 11/16/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sagescruffy said:
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Icanos said:
Are you sure they were DRY mushrooms? If they were fresh this would explain why you had such minimal effects.




Why would them being fresh explain how he had such minimal effects? Fresh Psilocybin mushrooms will ALWAYS have more alkaloids in them since they have had less exposure to oxidation and everything else that affects potency.




5 grams dried vs. 5 grams fresh is a big difference.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #19145072 - 11/16/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sagescruffy said:
Quote:

Icanos said:
Are you sure they were DRY mushrooms? If they were fresh this would explain why you had such minimal effects.




Why would them being fresh explain how he had such minimal effects? Fresh Psilocybin mushrooms will ALWAYS have more alkaloids in them since they have had less exposure to oxidation and everything else that affects potency.



Quote:

Sagescruffy said:
Quote:

Icanos said:
Are you sure they were DRY mushrooms? If they were fresh this would explain why you had such minimal effects.




Why would them being fresh explain how he had such minimal effects? Fresh Psilocybin mushrooms will ALWAYS have more alkaloids in them since they have had less exposure to oxidation and everything else that affects potency.




Because of the water content. While it doesn't change the amount of active chemical, it does change the percentages by weight drastically. Fresh shrooms are 90% water by weight. So 1 gram wet is less than 1 shroom for example, that same shroom dried will take ten...hence ...ten times more active chemical.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
    #19145092 - 11/16/13 12:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like a microdose to me. The shrooms must have been fresh (not dried).

5 Grams dried for your first time will guarantee an experience you'll never forget. That's a lot for a first timer!

5 Grams fresh amounts to a microdose. You'll feel something but not enough to call it a trip.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Roker]
    #19145169 - 11/16/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Must have been the shrooms then, 5g should definitely have the inter-dimensional elves knocking on your door.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #19145281 - 11/16/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sagescruffy said:
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Icanos said:
Are you sure they were DRY mushrooms? If they were fresh this would explain why you had such minimal effects.




Why would them being fresh explain how he had such minimal effects? Fresh Psilocybin mushrooms will ALWAYS have more alkaloids in them since they have had less exposure to oxidation and everything else that affects potency.



Water weight. 5 grams fresh is a very very small dose of mushrooms. Dried on the other is a heavy dose.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Dudeonacid]
    #19145366 - 11/16/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the context of your experience involved a transition of a studious, discerning book reviewer persona.
as that persona made some transit into psychedelia there should have been residue
of
book content,
author appreciation,
and language phrasing to express the review (alacrity - clarity, succinctness).

Maybe you had a great personal experience in which the work you were doing became deeper, or more richly resonant.

that can be the whole of it.
this part of the context is mind set.

I see nothing to criticize in what you experienced:
can you say more about the book report?
would you be able to compare this book report (session) with others you may have experienced?


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19145414 - 11/16/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've had something similar happen on ten hits of acid.

I tripped harder on one hit a few weeks before so I know it wasn't the batch. So yes, I've ha that happen and no, I can't explain why. All I can say is just try again.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
    #19145806 - 11/16/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ZippyHippyinWA said:
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Sagescruffy said:
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Icanos said:
Are you sure they were DRY mushrooms? If they were fresh this would explain why you had such minimal effects.




Why would them being fresh explain how he had such minimal effects? Fresh Psilocybin mushrooms will ALWAYS have more alkaloids in them since they have had less exposure to oxidation and everything else that affects potency.



Quote:

Sagescruffy said:
Quote:

Icanos said:
Are you sure they were DRY mushrooms? If they were fresh this would explain why you had such minimal effects.




Why would them being fresh explain how he had such minimal effects? Fresh Psilocybin mushrooms will ALWAYS have more alkaloids in them since they have had less exposure to oxidation and everything else that affects potency.




Because of the water content. While it doesn't change the amount of active chemical, it does change the percentages by weight drastically. Fresh shrooms are 90% water by weight. So 1 gram wet is less than 1 shroom for example, that same shroom dried will take ten...hence ...ten times more active chemical.




That's not how it works. Fresh is scientifically more potent than dried, this isn't even a debate.

sorry for being condescending bro. In the most literal sense, I don't actually know if fresh is more potent than dry. The reason I think the way you explained it is not accurate is because the actives in magic mushrooms are water soluble.


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Re: 5 gram trip. Saw colors but no mindset change? wtf [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #19145960 - 11/16/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you have 100 grams of fresh wet mushrooms, and mushrooms are around 90% water by weight, then those 100 grams of fresh mushrooms are condensed to 10 grams dry.  Do you see now what we're saying? Dry mushrooms are ALWAYS more powerful by weight.


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