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Tyranny in America
    #19144468 - 11/16/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I hope this is in the right forum. I also apologize for the length of it.

The tyranny we are faced with is absolutely astounding. Everyday I find more ways that the government is taking away our rights as Americans. Try searching in google for "ways the government has taken our rights" there is website after website. Some have repeated information yes, but most touch up on different rights and the many ways they are violated everyday.

The fact that Americans are idly watching as this happens is even more astounding. It's the same as idly watching someone walk into your home and take your material possessions. No one in there right mind would allow this. So why are we just sitting with our thumbs up our asses while this happens.

Our forefathers are rolling in their graves right now. So many people have fought and died to protect these rights and freedoms. Why are we allowing this, everything they died for will be in vain.

Why do we make people take the oath of office if no one will uphold it. What does it say? "I will SUPPORT AND DEFEND the constitution against threats both foreign and DOMESTIC.

The people should not fear their government. The government should fear the people. We as the people have the "Right of revolution". To overthrow our government and establish and elect new officials.

James Madison said "I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."
Mark my words a revolution is in order and if the people don't realize it and act accordingly we will find ourselves in a totalitarian government and then it will be too late.

Spread the knowledge! Make the average citizen aware of these tyrannies  together we CAN make a difference!


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: magickspore]
    #19144598 - 11/16/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So, uhm, what rights have they taken away?


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: Le_Canard]
    #19146097 - 11/16/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: magickspore]
    #19146219 - 11/16/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I would like to point out that the 4th amendment prohibits searches without a warrant.  Who grants warrants?  The government.


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19146516 - 11/16/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Technically its a judge and judges are supposed to be impartial to anything but the facts at hand when presented with the warrant request. With the new law the pigs can just lie and bypass the system. Its not right no matter how you look at it, and if you looked at the other pages on the first site I linked you would see its not just our 4th amendment rights it's all of them 1-10.


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: magickspore] * 1
    #19146817 - 11/16/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i read this thread topic as "Tranny in America". I came here to fap to some tranny porn, not to read some whiney bullshit. so dissapointed.


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: pantsboy]
    #19148780 - 11/17/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Plurality - multiplicity of views - often due to internet - lack of complete coverage = these are reasons people do not rally.  They are all unsure of the real facts and the huge plethora of disturbing breaches of human rights lead to confusion.  I should start over. Confusion is the reason people do not rally.  For each opinion about something there's another counter-opinion.  Actual facts are hard to come by. 

Prosecution must prove facts before a judgement is made.  Mere hearsay about some breach of rights isn't the same hard evidence used to show 'beyond reasonable doubt.'  Changes in the US Constitution which allow broader powers for search and seizure aren't the same as illegally abusing the same - even though we all know that the governments of the world are ever less concerned with being legally correct, we can't prove it.


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: eve69]
    #19149285 - 11/17/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

True in most cases hard evidence is needed, but if we wait for the "hard" evidence it will be too late. The kind of hard evidence you are waiting for will be the soldiers marching through our streets. I've been tried and convicted on far far less then then what I have given for references. If the people cared the evidence is there, but they have become to dumbed down, telling us it's for our safety and security. "It's all a load of crap sold by the world's biggest fertilizer salesman." The sites I have given are all that is needed to "prove beyond a reasonable doubt" of their crimes.


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: magickspore]
    #19149319 - 11/17/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Convicted of what?


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19149658 - 11/17/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's neither here nor there but if you must know B and E night time on 2 separate occasions. 1st time I was truly innocent just in the wrong place at the wrong time but bec I was very drunk I did not exercise my right to remain silent and made things worse. 2nd time was my fault but I got snitched out.


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: magickspore]
    #19149841 - 11/17/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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That's neither here nor there but if you must know B and E night time on 2 separate occasions. 1st time I was truly innocent just in the wrong place at the wrong time but bec I was very drunk I did not exercise my right to remain silent and made things worse. 2nd time was my fault but I got snitched out.



So you're a fucking thief who thinks he should get off on technicalities?  Go away.  Thieves are scum.


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19149977 - 11/17/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you keep people comfortable, you can one by one, group by group, target the undesirable people and the masses will not protest until it is too late. Examine what Hitler did in Germany, and you will see the same sort of stimuli and reactions occurring in America, but in slow motion.


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #19150058 - 11/17/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

"So you're a fucking thief who thinks he should get off on technicalities?  Go away.  Thieves are scum"

I was way worse than just a petty thief, but that was a lifetime ago and ppl change. Karma got me for my wrong doings, I've paid my dues and everybody is deserving of a second chance. Besides who are you to judge another person. You think your shit don't stink?


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #19150070 - 11/17/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If you keep people comfortable, you can one by one, group by group, target the undesirable people and the masses will not protest until it is too late. Examine what Hitler did in Germany, and you will see the same sort of stimuli and reactions occurring in America, but in slow motion.[/quote/]

That's what I was saying with, James Madison said "I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: magickspore]
    #19150109 - 11/17/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

who thinks he should get off on technicalities?

On a technicality?! Being truly innocent is not a "technicality" You don't know the circumstances of the first time and I had everything expunged from my record so go fuck yourself. In the eyes of anyone I'm clean and free.


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: magickspore]
    #19150119 - 11/17/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

magickspore said:
"So you're a fucking thief who thinks he should get off on technicalities?  Go away.  Thieves are scum"

I was way worse than just a petty thief, but that was a lifetime ago and ppl change. Karma got me for my wrong doings, I've paid my dues and everybody is deserving of a second chance. Besides who are you to judge another person. You think your shit don't stink?




I'm not a fucking thief


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19150265 - 11/17/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

magickspore said:
"So you're a fucking thief who thinks he should get off on technicalities?  Go away.  Thieves are scum"

I was way worse than just a petty thief, but that was a lifetime ago and ppl change. Karma got me for my wrong doings, I've paid my dues and everybody is deserving of a second chance. Besides who are you to judge another person. You think your shit don't stink?




I'm not a fucking thief




False, you exploit the labor of the proletariat.


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: Smokey420]
    #19150355 - 11/17/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Smokey420 said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
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magickspore said:
"So you're a fucking thief who thinks he should get off on technicalities?  Go away.  Thieves are scum"

I was way worse than just a petty thief, but that was a lifetime ago and ppl change. Karma got me for my wrong doings, I've paid my dues and everybody is deserving of a second chance. Besides who are you to judge another person. You think your shit don't stink?




I'm not a fucking thief




False, you exploit the labor of the proletariat.




Me? Bec as I stated above I've paid my dues and work hard for everything I have now. Just bec my hobbies are alil less then legal doesn't change the fact that I work hard for my things. If you were not talking abt me then please continue. But I would appreciate if we can get back to the topic at hand.


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: magickspore]
    #19150584 - 11/17/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was replying to Zappa who is a business owner.


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Re: Tyranny in America [Re: Smokey420]
    #19150619 - 11/17/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ok thanks for clearing that up for me.


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