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    #19143992 - 11/16/13 02:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When I first tried LSD, 'back in the day', (is it just me or does that phrase sound way too cheesy?), I seemed to get off on it as well as anyone else. Fast forward 20 years and I have renewed my interest and grew some mushrooms along with trying a few different ethnogens - HBWR, Salvia, home grown cubensis and the very very lovely Liberty Caps. I have also got and taken some blotters of LSZ and AL-Lad.

Dosage wise I took max 70ish LC's and had a lovely trip where as with the cubensis I have been taking 4.5 - 5gs dry but have not had the same effect not hitting past a light level 3. The LSZ blotters were 150mcg and at 300mcgs I had a little and I mean a little breathing - nothing compared to trip reports I read at 150 and even 75mcgs. I contacted the vendor and he assured me he had no other complaints.

I have read in passing that drugs that effect serotonin effect the experience and I take Tramadol which is a synthetic opioid which also actions on serotonin. I am wondering is that playing a role in the lack of effects, (although it didn't seem to effect the LC's)? Or could it be that some people have a naturally higher tolerance for psychedelics? (The Tramadol is prescribed and never taken more than have been prescribed 2/3 of maximum dose, had a fall off a roof and busted my back). I always wait at least 1 week between experiences.

Anyone any ideas?


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Re: tolerance [Re: nuube]
    #19144153 - 11/16/13 04:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I am almost certain that if your tramadol affect serotonin, that is your cause. I'm not the best medical professional on this, but with some searching on tramadol and psychedelics, people aren't saying it avoids trips, but to definitely be careful mixing the two. I'd try to find some time where you can lay off the tramadol if possible for a day, maybe two.


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    #19144160 - 11/16/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I am almost certain that if your tramadol affect serotonin, that is your cause. I'm not the best medical professional on this, but with some searching on tramadol and psychedelics, people aren't saying it avoids trips, but to definitely be careful mixing the two. I'd try to find some time where you can lay off the tramadol if possible for a day, maybe two.




It's unlikely as the dose I'm on doesn't even take away all the pain. I can skip the evening dose not too sure about the morning one - going into a trip sore and tired would not be ideal I would imagine.


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Re: tolerance [Re: nuube]
    #19145653 - 11/16/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

IS there any guide with regards to increasing dosages to compensate for the likes of Tramadol?


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Re: tolerance [Re: nuube]
    #19146264 - 11/16/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Anyone any ideas?




Yeah, 70 LCs is a large dose, much more than your cubes.  Trust what your trips are telling you - you need more dosage.

Tramadol, dunno, could be a factor.  Anything that affects the brains set-point for serotonin is going to seem like tolerance for psychedelics.

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Re: tolerance [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #19146843 - 11/16/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Anyone any ideas?




Yeah, 70 LCs is a large dose, much more than your cubes.  Trust what your trips are telling you - you need more dosage.

Tramadol, dunno, could be a factor.  Anything that affects the brains set-point for serotonin is going to seem like tolerance for psychedelics.

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How long would I need to be off the Tramadol to negate their effects? Also could I use codeine as a pain release or will that cause further interference?


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Re: tolerance [Re: nuube]
    #19149314 - 11/17/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No idea :shrug: you'll need to research that. :thumbup:

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    #19149937 - 11/17/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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No idea :shrug: you'll need to research that. :thumbup:

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    #19150139 - 11/17/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How long are you waiting between trips? 2 weeks is ideal.


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Re: tolerance [Re: 11nova]
    #19151002 - 11/17/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wait 1 - 2 weeks apart.


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    #19151259 - 11/17/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have a theory with little scientific evidence backing it involving a link between calcification of the pineal gland, flouride, the third eye, and tripping. Most of the US ingests mass amounts of sodium flouride today compared to the 60's and 70's.

You can call me a tinfoil hat wearing nut, but I'll still believe people tripped differently back in the day because their brains and body's weren't exposed to as much pollution and toxic shit.


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Re: tolerance [Re: Deemstar]
    #19151437 - 11/17/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I have a theory with little scientific evidence backing it involving a link between calcification of the pineal gland, flouride, the third eye, and tripping. Most of the US ingests mass amounts of sodium flouride today compared to the 60's and 70's.

You can call me a tinfoil hat wearing nut, but I'll still believe people tripped differently back in the day because their brains and body's weren't exposed to as much pollution and toxic shit.




Have read a  couple of articles about it. There are movements sprinkling up all over to get Govts to remove fluoride from the water.


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