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Making Salvia Soft Extract?
    #19114046 - 11/10/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know if extractions fit in this area of the forum, I hope they do.

So yesterday I've put a bunch of dry Salvia leaves into a blender, turned them into powder. Didn't weigh them, but probably 20-30 trips or more, considering my regular dose when smoking. I then covered this in 96% ethanol and stirred it for some minutes. Then 12 hours later stirred again, and now I have the following:



I hope and assume that the near black ethanol contains a bunch of Salvinorin, along with tannins and chlorophyll and stuff.

Planning to just let the tannins settle, then take the alcohol, put in a glass tray and let evaporate. If more sediment drops I'll have to take that out again. Repeating until all the alcohol is gone. Kind of this method here, up to the point where the naphta washes start. I have no naphta, just making the soft extract, which I plan to use sublingually.

Now questions:

- has anybody done this before? If so, how effective was it? Did it send you tripping balls?
- can I safely use anything else as a solvent, other than the ethanol, which is quite expensive? I don't mind using more leaf, I have plenty, but the solvents I found so far are a bit pricey. Isopropyl alcohol maybe? I live in Europe if that matters. Most people look to get the most out of the leaf (using more solvent). Well I'm looking to get the most out of my expensive solvent, wasting leaf is not an issue.
- If I want to do naphta washes, is basic Zippo lighter fluid OK to use, for something I'd be taking sublingually? Not sure if it fully evaporates or what kind of residue it leaves behind. Also I read that some of the green plant matter in the soft extract might help with absorption, so may not make sense to wash them out.

If I could find a sublingual tek that allowed me to dose Salvia properly, oh man :mindblown: :shitsintense:

Oh and how would one safely evaporate 400 ml of ethanol, inside a house? Obviously in darkness, as light destroys Salvinorin-A. I'm not in a hurry, I just want it to go smooth and leave me with workable extract.


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Spacerific]
    #19114399 - 11/10/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Pour it into a large flat pan so there is more surface area so it will evaporate faster since it only evaporates from the surface.

Also, maybe a fan on low blowing over it will help. I know blowing on alcohol (rubbing) makes it evaporate faster.


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Shroomsandstuff]
    #19120149 - 11/11/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Next step, used a syringe to take the alcohol from the jar to a pan. It is MUCH darker than the tek I've seen initially, it's nearly black as you can see:



I put the pan inside a pitch black cupboard, will see how it evaps over the next day.

Now I'm not clear what to do with the last syringe or two of alcohol, still in the jar. I hear I should avoid tannins from the extract, which fall on the bottom. How do I collect this last bit? I'm thinking put it in something more narrow and vertical, like a narrow bottle, wait for sediments to settle again and then separate just the dark alcohol, transfer it to the pan.

My main worry is, I hear alcohol can only hold so much salvinorin, and the excess will crystalize and fall on the bottom. Salvinorin is white. How do I know whether the light-colored sediment visible in the jar is made of useless tannins or actually Salvinorin-A crystals? My thinking here is that I should take that out, put it on a different tray to evaporate, then split test both of the resulting soft extracts, see which one gives me more trippy times.

If anybody has made any other salvia extracts or tinctures, please chime in, it's my first time.


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Spacerific]
    #19120969 - 11/11/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:strokebeard:


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: LandofOZ]
    #19120982 - 11/11/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

send me a sample when you finish!:cool:


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #19137225 - 11/14/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Update. Most of the alcohol evaporated. The smell of the current product is very plant-like, very pleasant, but unlike anything else I've ever smelled. Sally itself has no smell at all, and though the smoke has a specific minty aroma, this extract's smell is completely unfamiliar.

By tomorrow I suspect it will be completely dry, ready for gathering and maybe even testing. I cannot begin to explain how psyched I am about this actually working, being able to literally rip my  whole head open and :teleport: to the salvia realms, full on shapeshift for a longer duration than via smoking.

:justcantwait:  :wooawesome:

Also, I googled some more and found what seems to be 99% isopropyl alcohol at about a quarter of the price of the 96% ethanol. It's used for cleaning electronics and lenses, so supposed to have near 100% evaporation, leaving almost nothing behind. If anybody has any experience with this type of thing, if you know of it being toxic or on the contrary, super safe, please post and share. I plan to use the same tek, waiting for full evaporation from the plant material.

If this works well I am motherfucking set with Salvia for a loooooong time :thumbup:


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and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Spacerific]
    #19137846 - 11/14/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

let us know how it goes
I am very curious!


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Spacerific]
    #19140593 - 11/15/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Any updates yet OP? I made a similar soft extract a while ago but haven't gotten around to trying it because I'm not sure about dosage. You go first... :uhoh:


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19140698 - 11/15/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Was thinking of making an extract myself, how did you get on?


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: nuube]
    #19141297 - 11/15/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't even like salvia but I would try this in a heart beat for novelty purposes


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: LandofOZ]
    #19142006 - 11/15/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Had a party today so haven't tried the green go yet, but one of these days I'll surely field test it.

I love Salvia but have a problem with the smoking, all the time I wished I had something to deliver Salvinorin-A more constantly over a longer period of time, and in a healthier way. Drip it into my bloodstream as it were, to be able to go to the other side for longer. If this works I'll have to mass-produce it and probably overhaul my whole lifestyle around it :lol:


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Spacerific]
    #19143893 - 11/16/13 01:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Spacerific said:
Had a party today so haven't tried the green go yet, but one of these days I'll surely field test it.





Any pics of the finished product?


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: nuube]
    #19145913 - 11/16/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

nuube said:
Quote:

Spacerific said:
Had a party today so haven't tried the green go yet, but one of these days I'll surely field test it.





Any pics of the finished product?



There we go, I just scraped some off the glass right now, and am surprised to see how awesome and waxy it is, exactly as mentioned in the trip report that got me started.





At worst I did something wrong and this is just badly tasting plant wax that does nothin. At best it will contain untold powers and visions trapped in the blackness, waiting for a human nervous system to interact with. I can't even start to explain how many leaves went into this thing. May the gods have mercy on us all if this thing works :lol:

Getting some sleep, sports, getting my head in order, and one of these days we shall see what's been cooking here.


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Spacerific]
    #19146005 - 11/16/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

dab that on a hot titanium nail...please...and report back.


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: chuptoo]
    #19146364 - 11/16/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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chuptoo said:
dab that on a hot titanium nail...please...and report back.




Would be interested in a trip report too.


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: nuube]
    #19146532 - 11/16/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

lol I'm not sure a TI nail would be best for salvia. The point of them is to use as little heat as needed to boil the substance, like with BHO or maybe even DMT. Salvinorin-A has a high boiling point, so it's be better to just torch it with a weed bed below or something.


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Godfather1376]
    #19146754 - 11/16/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Has nobody read the content of the thread? :lol:

The whole point of making this green waxy goo is to take it sublingually, or by any other method EXCEPT smoking. I have leaves and normal dry extract I can use to smoke, but that's not what I'm after with this tek. I'm a nonsmoker, need longer trips to extract visions from, sublingual might work best for this. Quids are too weak and taste nasty.

One of the following days when I have the house to myself and feel in good shape, I'm giving this thing a go and coming back with a trip report.


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Spacerific]
    #19161095 - 11/19/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Any news OP? I'm eagerly awaiting your trip report, maybe it'll inspire me to take my extract too.


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19161324 - 11/19/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Had work, had various other things on my plate, but I think tomorrow is the day. I'm pretty psyched too, but knowing the power of the green lady, I know not to take her lightly (read, take extract on an unprepared unrested head).

Not promising as I don't like to bee constrained, but chances are high that tomorrow will be the space travel day.


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Re: Making Salvia Soft Extract? [Re: Spacerific]
    #19162527 - 11/19/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Looking forward to hearing your report.
Hope it works :thumbup:


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