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wildabeast
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Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping?
#19143782 - 11/16/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Every time I trip shit starts getting weird I know that sounds dumb but really shadows start darting around cold winds gusting past and around me... but tonight the room felt like a hundred people were in it and banging on the walls and doors ... does anybody else have this stuff spike when tripping?? I mean I know im crazy but really
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cez

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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: wildabeast]
#19143794 - 11/16/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, but I'm tripping
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wildabeast
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: cez]
#19143823 - 11/16/13 01:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well also its feels like they can steal it from me which is the worst part
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: wildabeast]
#19143830 - 11/16/13 01:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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They are part of you though.
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wildabeast
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: cez]
#19143839 - 11/16/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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might have to break out the salvia to get to the bottom of it ...
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: wildabeast]
#19143853 - 11/16/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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400ug of LSD will make them go away, or so i've heard.
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: funkerdslr]
#19143879 - 11/16/13 01:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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like dudes sig says.....^^^^^
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: jboredone]
#19144355 - 11/16/13 06:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I often feel like i'm in the presence of other beings/ghosts/spirits. I think thats just part of the mushroom experience.
Tbh, the whole thing feels like a ghostly experience.
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: anguila]
#19145828 - 11/16/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My electronics glitch to fuck when I'm on ketamine. Even if I don't touch them.
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: mattritt]
#19145947 - 11/16/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you go into the experience thinking you will be visited, then you probably will.
If you are talking about tripping by yourself in the dark with silence, try singing a song in your mind. Last time I was imagining a show tune and the CEV's were all performing it.
Or other then that, try a full trip with your eyes open, watching things from your childhood. This is a great Documentary on fractals that blew my mind a while back tripping.
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: TheConfusionEater]
#19146331 - 11/16/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, I've gotten this a couple times.
First was years ago tripping with my girl behind a church; sitting in my car. She saw two ghosts behind me through my window and I felt a (physically chilling) presence of sadness, longing, and curiosity.
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Lately it was with a good hit of LSD and smoked Caapi. I saw shadows darting around behind me in the basement room of the neighbors old house I was in; and my neighbors dog was in the room with me. She stared upwards behind me into the corners of the room; cowering; eyes wide with fright.
I consoled her as best I could and tried to keep up a strong positive energy within myself. I could feel that this entity was not as kind as the previous curious ghost couple. I felt an angry, jealous energy behind me.
That dog stayed fast by my side for the rest of the day; and I respected the house as best as I could for the remainder of my stay.
When I (months later) brought the incident up to the owner of the house he and his girl did inform me that they believed that their house was a spiritual "hot-spot" and recounted a number of strange occurrences. -------------------------
Both times I acknowledged in my mind that there may be a spiritual presence behind me, but kept my emotions in check - and didn't turn around 
Thinking something like: "Yes there may be spirits; this is natural and OK." Then I put my energy and attention elsewhere (so as not to "feed" them).
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I imagine tripping we put of an energetic glow; and if you believe in the spirit world (and I really don't/didn't - still haven't made up my mind) maybe some spiritual "glow" is coming off of us trippers attracting the wayward spirits like a moth to a flame.
Maybe all those smudging rituals aren't such a bad idea after all...
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My electronics glitch to fuck(...)
Yes I have noted this many times on many substances. Once on 4-AcO I "strummed" the top of my closed laptop (which was plugged into a wall speaker) with my hand and it reverberated a loud "chord" which left me and my fellow trippers quite astounded. I have noted many others reporting electronic glitches/malfunctions occurring while they trip.
Once on acid me and my girl had to turn off/unplug all the electronics in the room; with each unplugging we noticed the grating "EMF cloud" dissipating more and more. - I remember reading a post by a fellow shroomery member about a large dose of Bridgesii which left them floating through the house and turning on electronics just by pointing at them. -
How much of this is "just tripping" and how much is "real" - hard to say. The presence of corroborating witnesses does go a long way to impressing the reality of the occurrences.
For instance, early in my mushroom usage; I proclaimed to my friends during a trip that I would "call in the bugs". I started doing a little dance, imagining I was an insect and calling them to me with my dance. I was very soon enveloped in a cloud of insects; which my friends found amusing but actually scared me quite badly. I stopped dancing; and the cloud dissipated.
I do not necessarily believe in the spiritual; but I respect the possibility- and do not play frivolously with it (spiritual world/psychedelics) anymore.
-------------------- Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order: 1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine 2)Amanita (urine drank twice) 3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose) 4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators) 5)Salvia (need to try quid)
All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
Edited by flickedbic (11/16/13 06:16 PM)
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Shroomanism
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: flickedbic]
#19146446 - 11/16/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No OP is talking about something else. when i peak on mushrooms everything glitches as I peak everyone starts to fuck up and become like bots.it gets me sick to hear humans speak about human stuff when im on 5g+ you realize how weak language really is. I cant trip with any1 because the experience is beyond words its wasting it to try and share it when it happens.you just have to ride it until you are offered to go and you just cant. and you have to but its too much and there you fall into a sweet fucking nightmare.
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: Shroomanism]
#19146824 - 11/16/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I cant trip with any1 because the experience is beyond words its wasting it to try and share it when it happens
That is where glossolalia comes in handy. Seeming mishmash, but richly descriptive and creative.
Terrence McKenna talks about this: Quote:
The fractal elves seem to be reassuring, saying, "Don't worry, don't worry; do this, look at this." Meanwhile, one is completely "over there." One's ego is intact. One's fear reflexes are intact. One is not "fuzzed out" at all. Consequently, the natural reaction is amazement; profound astonishment that persists and persists. One breathes and it persists. The elves are saying, "Don't get a loop of wonder going that quenches your ability to understand. Try not to be so amazed. Try to focus and look at what we're doing." What they're doing is emitting sounds like music, like language. These sounds pass without any quantized moment of distinction - as Philo Judaeus said that the Logos would when it became perfect - from things heard to things beheld. One hears and beholds a language of alien meaning that is conveying alien information that cannot be Englished.
Being monkeys, when we encounter a translinguistic object, a kind of cognitive dissonance is set up in our hindbrain. We try to pour language over it and it sheds it like water off a duck's back. We try again and fail again, and this cognitive dissonance, this "wow" or "flutter" that is building off this object causes wonder, astonishment and awe at the brink of terror. One must control that. And the way to control it is to do what the entities are telling ine to do, to do what they are doing.
I mention these "effects" to invite the attention of experimentalists, whether they be shamans or scientists. There is something going on with these compounds that is not part of the normal presentational spectrum of hallucinogenic drug experience. When one begins to experiment with one's voice, unanticipated phenomena become possible. One experiences glossolalia, although unlike classical glossolalia, which has been studied. Students of classical glossolalia have measured pools of saliva eighteen inches across on the floors of South American churches where people have been kneeling. After classical glossolalia has occurred, the glossolaliasts often turn to ask the people nearby, "Did I do it? Did I speak in tongues?" This hallucinogen induced phenomenon isn't like that; it's simply a brain state that allows the expression of the assembly language that lies behind language, or a primal language of the sort that Robert Graves discussed in The White Goddess, or a Kabbalistic language of the sort that is described in the Zohar, a primal "ur sprach" that comes out of oneself. One discovers one can make the extradimensional objects - the feeling-toned, meaning-toned, three-dimensional rotating complexes of transforming light and color. To know this is to feel like a child. One is playing with colored balls; one has become the Aeon.
http://deoxy.org/t_thc.htm
On my strong 4-AcO trip where I strummed the computer; I also experience glossolalia and saw an ectoplasmic phlem-like material float out of my mouth.Quote:
Dennis describes the connection between the tryptamine buzz and the violet psychofluid, as discovered by Terence:
“The D.M.T.-initiated state, which allows prolonged bursts of this vocal energy, he describes as being one of seeing the levels of sound become more dense as they finally materialize into small, gnome-like, machine-like creatures made of material like obsidian froth, which pours from the body, mouth, and sex organs as long as the sound continues. It is effervescent, phosphorescent and indescribable. Here is where the linguistic metaphors become useless, for what the material actually is, is a supralinguistic matter; it is a language, but not made of words- a language which becomes and which is the things it describes. It is a more perfect archetypal Logos. We are convinced that through experimentation with these vocal phenomena, with and without the aid of drugs, it will be possible to understand and use translinguistic matter to accomplish any reality, for to say anything in this voice is to cause that thing to happen!”112
Krystal Cole talks about psychedelic glossolalia as a way to get calmer and higher based on a scientific study of glossolalia.
Next trip, try a spattering of glossolalia.
-------------------- Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order: 1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine 2)Amanita (urine drank twice) 3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose) 4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators) 5)Salvia (need to try quid)
All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
Edited by flickedbic (11/16/13 08:43 PM)
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: flickedbic]
#19147728 - 11/16/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm pretty skeptical about traditional ghosts and stuff. I have yet to see a haunted house or anything that stands up to scrutiny. That's the main reason that I like psychedelics so much, that it's proper, real, repeatable magic. Take the dose get the show.
Hauntings and stuff, IMO a large percent if not all of em are superstition and placebo.
Mildly interesting if you say you felt something and at the same time your dog was scared of said something, that was invisible to the naked eye.
Great respect for people who put money into IR cams, thermal cams and all manner of other gizmos, to actually get evidence of some sort. No respect for people who record audio and then try to make random glitches into "voices from beyond"
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#19151486 - 11/17/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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wildabeast
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: soicyboy97]
#19162273 - 11/19/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks team I appreciate the perspectives, I think that I am dealing with something that is attached to the new house I live in, this has been a recurring theme when I trip in one particular room, usually it is just a shadow figure... but on this last 5 grams in silent darkness it was knocking on doors and walls it was much stronger than I have experienced anytime before. I have always used the om sound to tune my trips... the vibration seems to help navigate the rough patches like the singing or chanting others refer to. Something like the transcendental meditation states of yoga... I like psychedelics as tool to experience the depths of my own being and these recent experiences are definitely an outside source bombarding me which is new to me in my 10+ years of psychedelic exploration
I really appreciate the perspective guys and I will weigh them all throughout my continuing practices..
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: wildabeast]
#19162484 - 11/19/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't suppose you thought to leave a webcam running to record all that banging on doors and windows before tripping? Or even after they started happening?
Are you likely to do it next time you trip?
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: Spacerific]
#19162998 - 11/20/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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One of my best experience was during the daytime when I looked out the window (I have big window wide open without any screen or separation). So while I was looking out I saw the big tree right next to the window (7th floor) and I can feel their vibrations. Then I sensed two really positive "energies" entering through me. Then I felt so blessed. It was amazing.
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: incubis]
#19163990 - 11/20/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My computer always fucks up when I'm tripping, and my phone. I have no idea why.
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wildabeast
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Re: Anyone else have spirits or ghost bother them while tripping? [Re: meganthratalica]
#19167888 - 11/20/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I didn't have a web cam going but I've been thinking about ways to try to capture possible future occurrences... I dont think my webcam has high enough resolution for any definitive proof but I do have a old 16 mm camcorder with night vision that might work ...
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