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Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? *DELETED*
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: partyinthestars]
#19143474 - 11/15/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Has your friend done this? Those solutions are usually pretty acidic.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? *DELETED* [Re: partyinthestars]
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19143488 - 11/15/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LiquidGlass said: Has your friend done this? Those solutions are usually pretty acidic.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: partyinthestars]
#19143491 - 11/15/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Plant fertilizers will do nothing for mushrooms.
Mushrooms are not plants, and they do not benefit from liquid nutrients.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? *DELETED* [Re: partyinthestars]
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? *DELETED* [Re: partyinthestars]
#19143508 - 11/15/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: partyinthestars]
#19143509 - 11/15/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cloning a fungus is drastically different than cloning a plant
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: partyinthestars] 1
#19143532 - 11/16/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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partyinthestars said: Thanks for the information/reply hacker, but do you have any resources relating to this? Ifso please post the url. I'll check it out. I'm looking to hear more though, with somekind of confirming information as well (instead of just saying it).
Sure, I would be more than happy to use the search function for you....
Only because it is limited to those of us who like to actually do research.....
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RogerRabbit said: If fungi were a plant, that would be an excellent idea. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16687916#16687916
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FrankHorrigan said: You don't want anything with plant fertilizer.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18566581#18566581
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RogerRabbit said: one should realize that organic plant foods are a natural byproduct of mushroom metabolism. Mushrooms digest solid waste and leave behind plant foods. This is why plants are always greener near mushroom patches.
It's much like the way we digest solid foods and excrete fertilizer from where the sun doesn't shine. This doesn't mean eating excrement is going to benefit us in any way. Ditto for mushrooms. When we read that mycelium uses nitrogen in its metabolism just as nearly all life forms, it means that it needs to be digested from solid food. Mushrooms don't absorb usable nutrients from non-organic sources. They're just not wired that way.
This silly argument has been going on for years with noobs. Ten or so years ago I offered a free microscope to the first person who could grow a real hydroponic mushroom on inert materials fed with chemical 'ferts' only. A quick search will reveal all the threads that started with everyone going to prove me wrong and do it. Not a single person ever pulled it off, so this talk about 'ferts' is bunk not supported by science or experience. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18980544#18980544
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RogerRabbit said: I wonder what part of fungi are not plants is still not understood? 
Feeding your mushrooms chemical fertilizer makes about as much sense as you drinking a big ol' glass of miracle grow. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16382556#16382556
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: partyinthestars]
#19144264 - 11/16/13 06:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your aerial mycelium indicates lack of FAE.
Based on your pic, you may need to make a proper SGFC fruiting chamber.
I see no holes or perlite.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#19144513 - 11/16/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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He has already had that reaction in his other thread, people told him to stick to a tek and make a proper FC. It seems that advice did not help.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: monoculture]
#19145005 - 11/16/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not to mention that Clonex is a sub-par (No offense intended to Clonex users) rooting stimulator to begin with: it's simply a fancily packaged gel containing indole butyric acid.
I can't imagine why anyone would think that it work with mushrooms, unless they saw a quote like Quote:
I'm just flabbergasted on how WELL it works!! the roots literally EXPLODE out of the cubes!!!
and didn't realize that those cubes were rock wool and not cubensis.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: Dark76]
#19145095 - 11/16/13 12:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cloning solutions are usually a mix of PLANT hormones. These are hormones that PLANTS use to stimulate root growth. Mushrooms are FUNGI, not plants the rooting hormone will do zero good.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? *DELETED* [Re: monoculture]
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: partyinthestars]
#19146429 - 11/16/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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All I am saying is use the search function before posting a question, it's the first forum rule FFS...
As you can see, this has been tried before......
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? *DELETED* [Re: SpitballJedi]
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? *DELETED* [Re: partyinthestars]
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: partyinthestars] 1
#19146464 - 11/16/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I didn't read your other thread. I didn't even know it existed. I don't just sit and go through all your threads to see if something has been addressed or not.
I saw a problem and offered some advice. Please don't attack me for trying to help.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: partyinthestars]
#19146522 - 11/16/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wasn't talking about your FC, the part about "following a tek all the way" was what I was referring to.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: PussyFart]
#23809359 - 11/07/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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PussyFart said: Plant fertilizers will do nothing for mushrooms.
Mushrooms are not plants, and they do not benefit from liquid nutrients.
this is incorrect info read link....
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3749451/
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: Funkyou2112]
#23809377 - 11/07/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man I was really polite to you in your other thread but now you've gone and bumped a 2 year old thread. That's like pissing on a grave. Some of the users in this thread aren't even active on this site anymore...
I'll repeat what I said in the other thread. That study pertains to a certain type of lichen, a lichen that isn't even in the same phyllum as the mushrooms we are trying to grow.
You've proved nothing and said a lot about your critical thinking skills.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: Greg]
#23809463 - 11/07/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Listen bud......I have noticed that a lot of you guys are way to anal! You might need to start growing weed vs mushrooms. CHILL out. geez
Secondly, there is so much bad info out here and its so unorganized and not updated that if i want to post that his info is WRONG then its none of your business. Stop trolling the site and FYI, that is just one of many studies that have been done. It does pertain to the type of mushrooms we are trying to grow.......
I have read a LOT on this site and it seem that a lot of you are so dam uptight and jump on people , speaking down to them and just outright mean. I am not saying you have, nor am i referring to you.....but your TONE is way out of line, so either post something positive or don't post at all. OK?
Deep breaths my friend....its gonna be ok.
PS 2 years is nothing.........there are posts that are 10 years old on the first dam page of the forum......
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: Funkyou2112]
#23809470 - 11/07/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So? Don't bump them. There's a fucking warning about it before it even lets you post.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: Inocuole]
#23809478 - 11/07/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: So? Don't bump them. There's a fucking warning about it before it even lets you post.
What are you all talking about? I didnt just " bump " it......i added to the info and corrected a statment what is not correct. SO what is it i did that think I did wrong? geez........another one. you guys are way too uptight..........
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: Funkyou2112] 1
#23809515 - 11/07/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Uh huh.. and you know why I'm not worried about you thinking that? Because we've all seen people like you before. And they don't tend to last long around here.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: Inocuole]
#23809539 - 11/07/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22861379
enough said! and Ive been around since you were in diapers......so button it.
Can you just be nice? or is there some deep anger built up ? Not gotten laid in a few years? or do you live in a mono tube? lol........ok i done. thanks for making me laugh. No wonder you have 10 people ignoring you.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: Funkyou2112]
#23809564 - 11/07/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you've been around since I've been in diapers then you'll be some kind of antiquated old fart who doesn't understand forums in the first place, in which case, we forgive you, uncle pat.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: Funkyou2112] 1
#23809566 - 11/07/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Knock our socks off with clonex grows then. Until then, go away.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: Funkyou2112]
#23810123 - 11/07/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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takitezsdc said:
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PussyFart said: Plant fertilizers will do nothing for mushrooms.
Mushrooms are not plants, and they do not benefit from liquid nutrients.
this is incorrect info read link....
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3749451/
So lichens are just another mushroom? I thought lichens were completely different, and formed a symbiotic relationship with fungi, algae and plants.. jeez was pf wrong and proven exactly why.
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? [Re: Funkyou2112]
#23810181 - 11/07/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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takitezsdc said:
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PussyFart said: Plant fertilizers will do nothing for mushrooms.
Mushrooms are not plants, and they do not benefit from liquid nutrients.
this is incorrect info read link....
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3749451/
if you cannot articulate how this in any way relates to what PF said then it's no good reason to bump a old ass thread
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Re: Using Clonex Clone Solution on colonized cake? *DELETED* [Re: partyinthestars]
#23810394 - 11/07/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: Plant fertilizer is for plants.
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