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umm i dont know... gay ppl? *DELETED*
    #1914121 - 09/14/03 12:01 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: 0toxic0]
    #1914181 - 09/14/03 12:30 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

My girlfriend has some opinions on this, friend.  Here is what she says:

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No, gender doesn't matter.  But personally, I feel that the spirit of the person can be constrained by their gender.  Some people, when describing themselves in their own minds would naturally see their gender as part of who they are.  Some people don't see themselves this way.  When describing themselves, they would first mention their sign, or their favourite foods, or even if they prefer cats to dogs. And then maybe, if you asked, they would mention "Oh, well yeah I suppose I am ________ (male/female)" 

Well, I don't know if anyone else feels this way.  But when I think of my significant other (Ped's Note:  This is me here folks), I don't think of his name.  It's more like a rich picture comes to mind, and a warmth of feelings (Ped's note: *blush*).  Forgive me for being so corny (Ped's note: It's alright, you're always this way), but it's more like I identify people that I'm close to as a "string of music".  It's more like the tune of someone's soul, if you're close enough to know them that well.  I think gender is only an issue if you allow it to be.  If it's not an issue to you, and it's not an issue to the person in question, then the relationship should be the priority.  I think it would be a wonderful world indeed if gender didn't matter, and it was only your interplay with another living person which counted.

If you can deal with the fact that some people will not be able to see beyond the confines of gender, and you think the special something you have is strong enough to survive such minor views, then I'd say go for it!  Our society is becoming far more accepting of this way of perceiving things, and I personally think that one day no one will really take note of gender... accept perhaps when in the Sex Store, considering the most appropriate toys! :smile: 




She is far more liberal than I am, I think.  Certainly I'm not an intolerant bigot, but I find it difficult to pry my mind open to alterative sexual lifestyles.  I suppose I've been conditioned to believe that sex is an extremely private act that must be performed along some pretty narrow guidelines.  Regardless, she would have far more insight into this issue than I.

I hope she's been of help to you.

PS- You have nice eyes.  Welcome to the Shroomery!


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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: Ped]
    #1914225 - 09/14/03 12:51 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Perhaps you just had problems with intimacy. I dont mean in the sexual sense, i just mean being close to someone and really caring about them. Were you able to maintain healthy, stable relationships (read: friendships) with girls prior to this change in mindset?


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    #1914898 - 09/14/03 09:54 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: 0toxic0]
    #1915018 - 09/14/03 11:38 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Ped's right, you really do have lovely eyes, if that picture is indeed you..

Heh, couldn't help but mentioning. :grin
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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? *DELETED* [Re: fireworks_god]
    #1915338 - 09/14/03 02:20 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: 0toxic0]
    #1915657 - 09/14/03 04:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I dont think any sexual attraction can come untill you see the person. You can be real close friends with this voice under the suit but at the end of the day unless you wanted it up the a-hole in the beggening, a sexual relationship wont spark up untill you have decided that you ARE gay and have a weird fetish for guys in silver suits with masks on and distorted voices.


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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: 0toxic0]
    #1915666 - 09/14/03 04:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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well thanks so much for actually READING my post adn responding to THAT......
ahh watever.. 




Heh, I did read your post and thought it was quite interesting. I agree that some pretty strong feelings come from people from the same sex and all of that, but sexually acting on them is different..

I guess it is just a matter of personal preference. It all just depends on who you are and what you feel, and what you decide to pursue. What works for one person doesn't work for another..

But yeah, Ped pointed it out and I couldn't help but commenting. I guess I should have added my insight on the issue at hand first.. Do you accept my late insight? :grin:

Welcome here, too, I am sure you will enjoy your stay and will learn a lot. This is really quite the place..
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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: Spokesman]
    #1916057 - 09/14/03 07:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I dont think any sexual attraction can come untill you see the person. You can be real close friends with this voice under the suit but at the end of the day unless you wanted it up the a-hole in the beggening, a sexual relationship wont spark up untill you have decided that you ARE gay and have a weird fetish for guys in silver suits with masks on and distorted voices.



I agree. I love all my friends, but I don't want to have sex with any of them. I can easily feel Platonic love towards a member of the same sex, but sexual attraction is another matter altogether.


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    #1916091 - 09/14/03 07:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: 0toxic0]
    #1916115 - 09/14/03 07:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

No, I think I get what you're saying, but such a relationship that is not based at all on physicality would be Platonic in nature, and would not have to do with sex or sexuality.


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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? *DELETED* [Re: silversoul7]
    #1916171 - 09/14/03 07:50 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: 0toxic0]
    #1916176 - 09/14/03 07:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

There can be meaningful relationships with people where sex and other physical activity isn't involved. I call these people "best friends."


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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: 0toxic0]
    #1916268 - 09/14/03 08:33 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

There's definately a huge difference between a platonic relationship and a sexual one. There's sexuality in everything we do with other people though, to a certain extent. The way the sexes interact with themselves and each other are very different in all 3 situations. I personally believe that it's near impossible for a man and woman to interact without sexuality skewing almost everything. I enjoy it though. That's life, and life is beautiful. When you say you want a relationship that's purely spiritual and sex is extra I see lot's of idealism. Sexuality is intrinsically bound to spirituality, so what you're talking about is most likely impossible. That's not a bad thing though. The thing is, sex is a lot more than just getting off, keep that in mind. I'm rambling, sorry. That's basically all I have to say about that.


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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: 0toxic0]
    #1916274 - 09/14/03 08:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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so r u saying that sex is the only thing that brings two people closer than just "best friends?"



Best friends can be closer than married couples. Someone can be your soulmate and still just be your best friend. I could feel spiritually closer to someone than I've ever felt to anyone before, but if there's no physical aspect to it, then we're still just "best friends."


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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1916289 - 09/14/03 08:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

So you mean your soulmate can be the same gender as you?


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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1916329 - 09/14/03 08:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry if i only worsened your confusion. But To me theirs only Friends and close friends from any sex. And Close friends who you are sexually attracted to from the opposite sex. I never knew people could chose a person as a life-time partner and marry them without being sexually attracted to them, the whole concept is alien to me. Again i apologize.


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Re: umm i dont know... gay ppl? [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1916336 - 09/14/03 08:58 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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So you mean your soulmate can be the same gender as you?



Yes. Even if you're not gay.


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