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OfflineJoe_pae
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4-aco-dmt : 40/50mg Oral dose + IM redose
    #19134978 - 11/14/13 07:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hi everyone,
Well this is obviously my first post here, though i've been checking out the board for quite a while. Nice to be finally be here !

Before you tell me to read the dozen or so other threads on the subject, hear me out. I haven't been able to find info about this, no matter where i've looked.

I'm planning an experiment with 4-aco-dmt and I'm familiar with it.
I'm intending to take a 40+ mg oral dose, then probably redose at same point.
Thing is the redose will be done via IM injection and I can't find any people who seems to have done that.

As i'm looking for a long and powerful plateau I think IM redose is the best solution (i'm not into IV), i'll probably IM 10mg or so, that should be enough.

How does the whole idea sounds to you ? I know we are not supposed to discuss dosing but if i'm planning on doing the IM, should I start with a lower oral dose ?

Cheers


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Re: 4-aco-dmt : 40/50mg Oral dose + IM redose [Re: Joe_pae]
    #19135097 - 11/14/13 08:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Get a few more posts and the Other Drugs forum will unlock. Plenty of people down there have done IM and IV drugs including 4-aco-dmt. You're technically not supposed to discuss RC's on the psychedelic experience. Also RC dosage advice isn't allowed, but i can try to nudge you in the right direction if possible. What's your current experience? 40 mg is a large dose. I feel if you know what you're into then you're fully capable of deciding what's comfortable to you and should just follow your heart on the issue


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Re: 4-aco-dmt : 40/50mg Oral dose + IM redose [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19135149 - 11/14/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Very interested in hearing an IM 4-AcO-DMT experience.  I plan to try 4-HO-MET IM'd in a shot with some K.  See where I can go with that. :grin:


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Re: 4-aco-dmt : 40/50mg Oral dose + IM redose [Re: mattritt]
    #19139508 - 11/15/13 02:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Its been said that IM use is actually not as recomended as IV.  Apparently the user said that IV sends you directly to hyperspace.  Whist IM was too slow of a come up and was nerve racking IV use by the time the plunger was pushed he was egoless.
For christ sakes get an .11 micron syringe filter before you go shootin RCs. :thisisheavyman:


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Re: 4-aco-dmt : 40/50mg Oral dose + IM redose [Re: mattritt]
    #19139536 - 11/15/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mattritt said:
Very interested in hearing an IM 4-AcO-DMT experience.  I plan to try 4-HO-MET IM'd in a shot with some K.  See where I can go with that. :grin:




4-ho-met is great!

I once did 4-ho- mipt and mxe and found that to be cool but I think the MET would be better.

Ketamine is interesting I feel like the stuff I got was either cut or I just had a tolerance from the mxe because 100mg didn't k hole me and I checked erowid and shroomery for dosages. I also re-upped while really high yet still not quite what I think people call a k hole. Couldn't walk though. It was awesome! I listened to 2 phish albums

I figure it was tolerance, the stuff numbed me up a bit and had this interesting taste that matches what people describe k to taste like. 

When I woke up from doing the k was the worst. I was still kind of anesthetized. I got up but not out from the covers lifted myself up to reach the ceiling fan using one arm to hold myself up and one are to grab the string....and my holding arm slipped and my face smashed straight into the metal chair right next to my bed. I chipped
My tooth, but honestly wasnt really feeling it or registering it. I was bleeding everywhere, all over my bed.

I got up and stormed out of my room to the bathroom, my roommate and some music friends were over and they were pretty confused at why I was bleeding and cussing everywhere. Good times. Really. It was great.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt : 40/50mg Oral dose + IM redose [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19140381 - 11/15/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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JacksonMetaller said:
Get a few more posts and the Other Drugs forum will unlock. Plenty of people down there have done IM and IV drugs including 4-aco-dmt. You're technically not supposed to discuss RC's on the psychedelic experience. Also RC dosage advice isn't allowed, but i can try to nudge you in the right direction if possible. What's your current experience? 40 mg is a large dose. I feel if you know what you're into then you're fully capable of deciding what's comfortable to you and should just follow your heart on the issue




Thank you very much for pointing out my wrong posting, I had no clue.

Well as far as my experience with 4-aco-dmt I've tripped around 8-9 times over the last year with doses ranging from 10 to 30mg +/- (as 1-2 trips were eyeballed but compared to trips I had when the dose was scaled, always trying to keep it on the low-side of eyeballing though).
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Its been said that IM use is actually not as recomended as IV.  Apparently the user said that IV sends you directly to hyperspace.  Whist IM was too slow of a come up and was nerve racking IV use by the time the plunger was pushed he was egoless.
For christ sakes get an .11 micron syringe filter before you go shootin RCs. :thisisheavyman:




Also done IM and I don't personally find it nerve-racking, from the time I was done shooting and finished smoking a cigarette I was actually coming-up quite good. I use a kit specially sold in drugstores made for injecting all kinds of drugs, contains everything you need including syringe filter, so far I had no trouble with it. Do you really advice getting that an .11 micron though for shooting 4-aco ?

I found my experience quite nice with 4aco but nothing came as near as one of my first trip. Since 30mg dose was not enough for the wanted effects, I've decided to go with 40/50mg and EVENTUALLY (if I'm still in known territory) go for an IM redose.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt : 40/50mg Oral dose + IM redose [Re: Joe_pae]
    #19140909 - 11/15/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you've done 30mg before then 40mg shouldn't be too big of a step up. I've never heard of IMing 4-aco but if you've researched it and it works then it shouldn't be too bad. I'm not too familiar with 4-aco tolerance but I'd also double check that you would even feel the redose before actually injecting it. I'd also recommend weighing out your doses before you do either of them. Weigh and take the 40mg, then weigh and prepare the syringe with 10mg so you wouldn't have to do it while tripping and potentially get more than what you wanted (especially if you'll be eyeballing it.)

Whatever you decide, 4-aco-dmt is a very interesting compound, and I would love to read a trip report after, especially if you IM some. Have fun.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt : 40/50mg Oral dose + IM redose [Re: Joe_pae]
    #19140911 - 11/15/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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Yup, you need the other forum.

Good luck and have fun.


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