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maniec
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Coir Monotub 1:7 spawn ratio with cakes success
#19139629 - 11/15/13 03:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I made a monotube that was spawned at Oct 28 with 6 crumbled BRF Cake, so it's colonizing about more then three weeks. (i used 'How to do Coir') The box is 53quarts, and the substrate is ca. 2,5inch. I smelled it a couple of times and it was fine, i don't see any contam. There's a few pic:
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Edited by maniec (11/18/13 02:57 PM)
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: maniec]
#19139643 - 11/15/13 03:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It could go another day or two but if it was me I would fruit it, looks like knots forming
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19139676 - 11/15/13 04:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why didn't you line it with black plastic? I would fruit it before too long, as said.
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: maniec]
#19139697 - 11/15/13 04:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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That sure looks like a lot of holes for poly fill you have drilled there.
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: budmanman]
#19139738 - 11/15/13 05:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I noticed you had your holes covered instead of having polyfill. You can fruit that but you should prob duct tape the sides or some thing to stop side pinning. Maybe some better FAE might speed some stuff up.
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: budmanman]
#19139743 - 11/15/13 05:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I also think that theese little white dots are hypha knots! I fruit it tomorrow. This box was a fruiting chamber for PFTEK. Now I'll use only 4holes down, and 2holes up! I covered the sides with some type of duct tape, not inside but outside, next time i use garbage bag to prevent side pinning. Thanks for the answers!
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: maniec]
#19140076 - 11/15/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im almost positive that tub is infected with cobweb , for colonization to be that far behind at this time plus you "hypial knots" are too big and too early for this stage of colonization along side the "knots" forming on such uncolonized substrate
I recently had a tub go bad like this
I would not fruit this
Edited by Kalypto (11/15/13 08:52 AM)
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: Kalypto]
#19140089 - 11/15/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kalypto said: Im almost positive that tub is infected with cobweb , for colonization to be that far behind at this time plus you "hypial knots" are too big and too early for this stage of colonization
I recently had a tub go bad like this
I don't really see anything indicative of cobweb.  If anything there's yeast but that won't hurt the grow, and that's only a maybe.
Cakes are shitty spawn. They're good if it's all you have, but that's probably the reason for the lag.
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19140116 - 11/15/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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See all the brown he has that has been covered from the top not bottom up , thats cobweb growing on top Im almost positive , but regardless of that A tub that is barley that colonized at like 2 1/2 weeks has got to have something wrong with it
For example this tub was made on the 29 granted the obvious strain and genetic difference apply

I have already produced fruits and this one took longer than my normal ones
Im not the end all be all resource obviously , but I would consider that contaminated with my experience
If you do keep it let me know , Id like to bet for bets sake that those mushrooms will be weak and wet and unhealthy just like mine were
Edited by Kalypto (11/15/13 09:04 AM)
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: Tsukasa]
#19140119 - 11/15/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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TriGeoLight said: I noticed you had your holes covered instead of having polyfill. You can fruit that but you should prob duct tape the sides or some thing to stop side pinning. Maybe some better FAE might speed some stuff up.
Duct tape on the side will not stop side pinning
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: Kalypto]
#19140287 - 11/15/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Kalypto said:
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TriGeoLight said: I noticed you had your holes covered instead of having polyfill. You can fruit that but you should prob duct tape the sides or some thing to stop side pinning. Maybe some better FAE might speed some stuff up.
Duct tape on the side will not stop side pinning
Light does not cause side pinning.....
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: PussyFart]
#19140473 - 11/15/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, I know that cakes as spawn is a waste of time, but I dont have fully colonized grains yet. It seems like cobweb, but it's my phone's fault, so Im sure that's not. OH WAIT!!! I CHECKED IT OUT TO BE SURE AND I SEE A LOT OF MINI MUSHROOMS WITH THIS LITTLE HEAD!!! Im very happy ^.^
Now I follow theese instructions: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777#17332777
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Edited by maniec (11/15/13 10:57 AM)
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: maniec]
#19140485 - 11/15/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hope im wrong
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: Kalypto]
#19140921 - 11/15/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kalypto said: Im almost positive that tub is infected with cobweb , for colonization to be that far behind at this time plus you "hypial knots" are too big and too early for this stage of colonization along side the "knots" forming on such uncolonized substrate
I recently had a tub go bad like this
I would not fruit this
3 weeks is a long time but when you consider the fact that 6 BRF cakes is about the equivalent of 1 pint of grain spawn, since they're only 1/3 BRF, it doesn't seem to bad. Probably a little more actually since BRF is denser than whole grains but you the get the idea.
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: Kalypto]
#19141397 - 11/15/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kalypto said: Im almost positive that tub is infected with cobweb , for colonization to be that far behind at this time plus you "hypial knots" are too big and too early for this stage of colonization along side the "knots" forming on such uncolonized substrate
I recently had a tub go bad like this
I would not fruit this
Definitely NOT cobweb
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19141414 - 11/15/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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THIS is cobweb:
( from google images)
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19141778 - 11/15/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Will the tub produce similar to grain spawn monotubs, or will it be weaker flushes due to the crumbled brf cakes? In other words, is the main difference with the colonization time?
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Re: Can I fruit this Coir Monotub? [Re: refried]
#19143771 - 11/16/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think grains are much more faster, but that's all. I hope I can spawn WBS to coir as soon as possible Cloning the best shroomies, inject to master spawn, then G2G and then spawn a lot of tubs. This thread will be updated with pics
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Coir Monotub 1:7 spawn ratio with cakes success [Re: maniec]
#19154161 - 11/18/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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UPDATE #1: So, it's started to fruit, but the pinset is not as good as I hoped. Any reason for that? The spawn was MS cake and 1:7 ratio, but I dont think only theese two things are responsible for bad pinset... and this strain (pensacola) performed great on cakes:

aaaaaaaaaaand the tub: >its not contamned, my camera is a sh#t<

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I don't fan&mist, just follow this method: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777#17332777
Edited by maniec (11/18/13 03:10 PM)
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Re: Coir Monotub 1:7 spawn ratio with cakes success [Re: maniec]
#19154756 - 11/18/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The cakes were only pinning at the bottom of the cakes because the wrong jars were used, it does not look like you dunked and rolled them, and gravity sucked all the moisture to the bottom of the cakes....
As for your bulk pinset, that is more to do with genetics, environmental factors, and luck.....
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