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starfire_xes
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Re: How Republicans are destroying the recovery in one graph [Re: Mush4Brains] 1
#19147439 - 11/16/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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any fool knows that there will be more than 50 jobs because the government would hire thousands of beaurocrats to do pipeline paperwork.
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Mush4Brains
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Re: How Republicans are destroying the recovery in one graph [Re: starfire_xes]
#19147460 - 11/16/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Proof?
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starfire_xes
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Re: How Republicans are destroying the recovery in one graph [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19147469 - 11/16/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I spoke in jest. But then again, when did you ever see this government not wanting to expand itself? Anyway whats the big deal about Keystone? There is already a pipeline built from the fourcorners area to refineries down in west texas, and the Permian Basin in West texas/Eastern New Mexico makes Bakken look like a few drops of oil on someones driveway.
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Re: How Republicans are destroying the recovery in one graph [Re: starfire_xes]
#19147477 - 11/16/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well the original issue was that it went right over a major aquifer.
Now, people are realizing that oil spills are going unreported and are wondering "Is my land next?"
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Re: How Republicans are destroying the recovery in one graph [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19148599 - 11/17/13 06:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some pipeline advocates are citing a recent IHS-CERA study that argues tar sand oil produces only 6 percent more carbon than conventional crude. This is an overly optimistic estimate from an industry-affiliated group that is not consistent with other findings. Tar sands must be mined with giant trucks and then heat is applied in order to separate the bitumen from the sands, thereby increasing the carbon footprint. A more reasonable estimate of 20-25% is found in a detailed analysis by Stanford Assistant Professor Adam Brandt. Moreover, a recent report notes that the overall impact may even be significantly worse than previously thought because tar sand companies are replacing boggy peat lands that absorb large amounts of carbon with dry forests when they are finished mining. We do not have determinative data yet to calculate the exact difference between tar sand oil and conventional crude, but there is little doubt that it is much higher than 6 percent.
And from Zaps NYT comes this little tidbit. What does Canada have to hide? Sounds like they are learning their lessons from the US.
Silencing Scientists
Over the last few years, the government of Canada — led by Stephen Harper — has made it harder and harder for publicly financed scientists to communicate with the public and with other scientists.
It began badly enough in 2008 when scientists working for Environment Canada, the federal agency, were told to refer all queries to departmental communications officers. Now the government is doing all it can to monitor and restrict the flow of scientific information, especially concerning research into climate change, fisheries and anything to do with the Alberta tar sands — source of the diluted bitumen that would flow through the controversial Keystone XL pipeline. Journalists find themselves unable to reach government scientists; the scientists themselves have organized public protests.
There was trouble of this kind here in the George W. Bush years, when scientists were asked to toe the party line on climate policy and endangered species. But nothing came close to what is being done in Canada.
Science is the gathering of hypotheses and the endless testing of them. It involves checking and double-checking, self-criticism and a willingness to overturn even fundamental assumptions if they prove to be wrong. But none of this can happen without open communication among scientists. This is more than an attack on academic freedom. It is an attempt to guarantee public ignorance.
It is also designed to make sure that nothing gets in the way of the northern resource rush — the feverish effort to mine the earth and the ocean with little regard for environmental consequences. The Harper policy seems designed to make sure that the tar sands project proceeds quietly, with no surprises, no bad news, no alarms from government scientists. To all the other kinds of pollution the tar sands will yield, we must now add another: the degradation of vital streams of research and information.
Edited by sweeper54 (11/17/13 06:46 AM)
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