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Mush4Brains
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: starfire_xes]
#19138087 - 11/14/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, at least I don't try to hide behind the "both sides suck" argument, and lie about my political position like some on these boards.
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starfire_xes said: So I tell you what. Ignore my posts and I will ignore yours, OK?
No, I like to laugh here and there. When you post about your Hep C, your excessive psychedelic usage, your love for Asian hookers... it gives me a chuckle to know that I'm just your down to Earth, no bullshit, proud to be American human being.
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: starfire_xes]
#19138102 - 11/14/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What I find concerning is that the actual law as written was meant to collapse the current insurance company market. That to me sounds very sketchy... Obama was practically forced to make that public address today to avoid embarrassment. (They try to act like they don't read these fucking laws before they are implemented), once they realize they can't get away with it they make up some bullshit. It's funny because this was exactly foreseen by many analyst and said the only thing that he could do would to acknowledge the error..this is all strategically done in a political sense to protect the people other than Obama who backed the bill..
Honestly I don't dislike Obama as a person but as a leader he fails to maintain anything.
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Mush4Brains
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: Gorlax]
#19138114 - 11/14/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: What I find concerning is that the actual law as written was meant to collapse the current insurance company market.
Excuse me, what? The law is written to please the private insurance market and funnel them 30+ million more customers. How the fuck would this collapse the market?
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starfire_xes
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: Gorlax]
#19138139 - 11/14/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: What I find concerning is that the actual law as written was meant to collapse the current insurance company market. That to me sounds very sketchy... Obama was practically forced to make that public address today to avoid embarrassment. (They try to act like they don't read these fucking laws before they are implemented), once they realize they can't get away with it they make up some bullshit. It's funny because this was exactly foreseen by many analyst and said the only thing that he could do would to acknowledge the error..this is all strategically done in a political sense to protect the people other than Obama who backed the bill..
Honestly I don't dislike Obama as a person but as a leader he fails to maintain anything.
Well, if Obama fixes the messaging, gives a couple of speeches, holds some fundraisers, and plays a few rounds of golf I'm sure the problems with the ACA will fix themselves.
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Mush4Brains
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: starfire_xes]
#19138153 - 11/14/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why don't you just admit you're a right-wing, Rush Limbaugh loving, Democrat hating, Paul Ryan idolizing, Rand Paul worshiping Republican? I mean, if it were so dirty to be so right wing, you would try to at least hide it a little better, no?
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starfire_xes
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: Mush4Brains] 4
#19138172 - 11/14/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll tell you what. Why don't you go live out side the US for about 15 years in different countries, travel to 20 other countries, grow up poor, become an addict, get an incurable disease, go to jail, serve in the military, have children, then make something out of yourself on your own, with minimal support, working your ass off in a factory for four years to get a degree, finally getting somewhere in life without anyones help, and making your own way and taking responsibility for your life before you try to tell me what the world is like and how to live?
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Mush4Brains
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: starfire_xes]
#19138218 - 11/14/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've grown up poor and am an addict, so I'm well on that path
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starfire_xes
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19138260 - 11/14/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Then keep trying to do better for yourself. I'm not trying to come down on you, and you disagree with my positions. But one of the main differences is, when you don't agree with someone you attack them on a personal level. I try not to do it, but I realize I do sometimes. Its the 'well, he's stupid he listens to RUSH....blah blah blah' argument. there is no need for that in here.
You either argue your point with passion, and stick to your guns, or you don't. Personal attacks aren't getting us--and obviously they haven't gotten the US--anywhere.
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19138287 - 11/14/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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1 million people in California lost their private insurance! This is what this big argument is about. they claimed you could keep your CURRENT INSURANCE! The law was wrong! They lied to you! The plan was to have people buy into the government assisted insurance b.c it would be CHEAPER! When everyone got dropped and saw that it would be more expensive, shit unraveled!
Government competition in the private sector is usually never good for a company, that's like the U.S making Ophones to compete with Iphones so everyone could have one even if they couldn't afford it. What really changes those two concepts from being private healthcare and government healthcare? Also private healthcare is extremely profitable.
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19138288 - 11/14/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: Why don't you just admit you're a right-wing, Rush Limbaugh loving, Democrat hating, Paul Ryan idolizing, Rand Paul worshiping Republican? I mean, if it were so dirty to be so right wing, you would try to at least hide it a little better, no?
Look bro, I am a liberal. I like[d] Obama and I still regard him as a decent president. Much better candidate then Mitt Romney. But that is my opinion. I think the repubs have issues, and the tea-partyers are extremists no doubt...
But Obama is not great and you are being just as bad as the worst of the right-wing radicals. The reason we can't work together is not because of the republicans... its because of attitudes like yours. I don't understand why you are so hateful. Conservatives or liberals, right or left, we both have good and bad ideas. We need to work together.
Obama fucked up. But so did the repubs. We need to fix it. Just my opinion take it as you will.
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Mush4Brains
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: starfire_xes]
#19138299 - 11/14/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Then keep trying to do better for yourself. I'm not trying to come down on you, and you disagree with my positions. But one of the main differences is, when you don't agree with someone you attack them on a personal level. I try not to do it, but I realize I do sometimes. Its the 'well, he's stupid he listens to RUSH....blah blah blah' argument. there is no need for that in here.
You either argue your point with passion, and stick to your guns, or you don't. Personal attacks aren't getting us--and obviously they haven't gotten the US--anywhere.
I have my guns
I do respect you, one of the few on the boards I actually do, but that doesn't mean I don't like making ridiculous comments
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: Mush4Brains] 1
#19139711 - 11/15/13 04:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: Once again, you need to explain how it is illegal. Neither you, luvdemshrooms, nor psychonaught can.
I did. After your response it became clear there was no intellectual stimulation with your posts. Debating with you is like debating with the kid next door while he has a tantrum.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19140237 - 11/15/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: What I find concerning is that the actual law as written was meant to collapse the current insurance company market.
Excuse me, what? The law is written to please the private insurance market and funnel them 30+ million more customers. How the fuck would this collapse the market?
Why didn't your liberal hero tell the private insurance companies to piss off?
The capitalists love him, he's their puppet that keeps getting them rich.
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Mush4Brains
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#19140271 - 11/15/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've never considered Obama a liberal, nor my hero.
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Mush4Brains said: Once again, you need to explain how it is illegal. Neither you, luvdemshrooms, nor psychonaught can.
I did. After your response it became clear there was no intellectual stimulation with your posts. Debating with you is like debating with the kid next door while he has a tantrum.

Typical response. It must be tough to be so dead set in your partisan hackery.
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19141153 - 11/15/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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106,185 people enrolled, 4.02 million people received policy cancellations.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-15/total-healthcare-enrollment-result-obamacare-39-million
Sounds like a successful program thus far.
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Re: Obama offers one year extension on keeping private health plans [Re: qman] 1
#19141163 - 11/15/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is working exactly as they intended it to.
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