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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: JacksonMetaller] * 1
    #19138252 - 11/14/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Careful OP. I have nothing against heroin, don't get me wrong. But realize that people aren't being closeminded, they just have their own experiences that they feel strongly about. I have watched a number of people go down on the ODD from recreational and responsible heroin use to full blown addicts. Once again, i don't think heroin is a "bad" drug and i'm not saying not to use it. Just keep in mind that it is insidious for a lot of people so don't let it sneak up on you. Don't give it even the slightest leniency if you're going to space out your usage. But i'm sure you know this. I just think you should be appreciative of others concern, even if you know what's best for you. Best of luck man, stay safe :thumbup: Heroin peaks my curiosity, though i'm not sure i would personally try it any time in the foreseeable future.





I am very careful when it comes to heroin/opiates.

I monitor my dosage and frequency of doses. If I ever catch myself slipping I distance myself from it for a while.

I have watched many of my close personal friends go down the wrong road with heroin, I could see it happening and I tryed to explain to them that you can't use it for many days in a row and all that and they just weren't listening or something and guess what they are now... addicts. That doesn't change how I feel about the drug though, because I always knew there was that potential if you abused the drug.

I'm neither for or against heroin usage, but what I am for is people learning about "safe & responsible" drug usage.

I realize that anytime you are messing with an addictive substance you always have to be careful and above all else show the drug the respect it deserves.

I've been around addicts all my life, I think that is one of the main reasons why I really don't think I'll ever be an addict, because I've seen people throw their lives away time and time again for various substances, and I don't want to be like that, honestly it disgusts me a little... but I do realize there is always the possibility of addiction.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19138296 - 11/14/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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(IM) Intamuscular Injection





if this is the case then i assume that person thought they were doing steroids but got sold heroin.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: Dork] * 1
    #19138313 - 11/14/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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(IM) Intamuscular Injection





if this is the case then i assume that person thought they were doing steroids but got sold heroin.



Some people like it, it still has the high bioavailability of IV, but it lasts longer.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19138328 - 11/14/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

it wouldn't hit you nearly as fast or strong though. seems dumb.


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Re: Heroin; Poll (moved) [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19138346 - 11/14/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This thread was moved from Other Drugs Discussion.

Reason:
Was just visiting ODD.


Everyone: please keep things respectful and laid back as per pub rules.


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Re: Heroin; Poll (moved) [Re: johnm214] * 1
    #19138355 - 11/14/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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This thread was moved from Other Drugs Discussion.

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Was just visiting ODD.


Everyone: please keep things respectful and laid back as per pub rules.




Thanks!


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: Dork] * 1
    #19138366 - 11/14/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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it wouldn't hit you nearly as fast or strong though. seems dumb.



Exactly, some people prefer legs to the rush, I personally do not, but I've met some people that do.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19138402 - 11/14/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

if you don't want a strong opiate rush then why choose heroin? definitely a negative ev choice.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: Dork] * 1
    #19138410 - 11/14/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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if you don't want a strong opiate rush then why choose heroin? definitely a negative ev choice.



Cheap, strong, relatively long lasting, etc...


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19138459 - 11/14/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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if you don't want a strong opiate rush then why choose heroin? definitely a negative ev choice.



strong




a little counterintuitive. if there is actually anyone who does this, they should probably just eat a poppyseed bagel


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: Dork] * 1
    #19138472 - 11/14/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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if you don't want a strong opiate rush then why choose heroin? definitely a negative ev choice.



strong




a little counterintuitive. if there is actually anyone who does this, they should probably just eat a poppyseed bagel



Strong doesn't just refer to the rush...

That is way more expensive to reach the same level of effects.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #19138479 - 11/14/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd never try it because of how amazing I hear it is...and that scares me. 6 years ago I was a major coke addict and if I could get that bad on coke -- I cringe at the thought of how I could end up on heroin.





Its pretty much the same shit as oxy.


If you were a coke fiend i don’t think you would like heroin that much, i say that because I’ve never really liked coke.


Mix coke and heroin though and you are golden

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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: elax420] * 1
    #19138490 - 11/14/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd never try it because of how amazing I hear it is...and that scares me. 6 years ago I was a major coke addict and if I could get that bad on coke -- I cringe at the thought of how I could end up on heroin.





Its pretty much the same shit as oxy.




Not really IME, they're kind of similar, but they have a fair amount of differences...


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19138522 - 11/14/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

heroin is the biggest bang for your buck concerning opiates. the prices of pharmaceutical opiates that have a good recreational value is off the fucking charts (i can get 250 mg of good heroin for the prices of 75 mg oxycodone street value)

its kind of starting to creep up on me for weekday use though, i guess i could kind of treat it like a beer after studying or getting your shit done. i guess i have to see how negatively it affects my school life before i consider weekday usage though.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: elax420]
    #19138545 - 11/14/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Id say its probably closest to opanas, same exact high.. just uses more substance depending on purity. Opanas will make you straight pass the fuck out.

And I never liked coke either, and wouldnt waste a penny on it. But amphetamines on the other hand.. :rolleyes:


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19138547 - 11/14/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i feel like you are defending people that don't exist, but if they do they are most likely habitually spending money on the heroin itself, and the long ass needles that are damaging their muscles over time. I can see someone doing it like once and realizing it was a retarded choice, but not regularly. their tolerance would go up too pretty quickly, so they would definitely have to be pretty faithful to im'ing to keep doing it. -ev.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: mr sniffles]
    #19138560 - 11/14/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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its kind of starting to creep up on me for weekday use though, i guess i could kind of treat it like a beer after studying or getting your shit done. i guess i have to see how negatively it affects my school life before i consider weekday usage though.





Lol wut.


Quit now bro if you can still moderate like that.  ITs just a downward spiral, granted its a pretty fun downward spiral but it gets out of hand quick.


getting high on the weekends turns into 3-4 bags a day to function before you know it.


and consumeshrooms who the fuck does IM H injections. I think Injecting is retarded in the first place but IM is beyond retarded. Hello Abscess city and future limb loss.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: elax420]
    #19138593 - 11/14/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

lol really? my recreational dose for weekdays is never more than 15 mg. i try to keep my usage really low, the highest i ever got was maybe about 35-40 mg and that was for a whole day.

but thanks though, i wouldn't want it to interfere with my life more than it already does.


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: mr sniffles]
    #19138624 - 11/14/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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lol really? my recreational dose for weekdays is never more than 15 mg. i try to keep my usage really low, the highest i ever got was maybe about 35-40 mg and that was for a whole day.

but thanks though, i wouldn't want it to interfere with my life more than it already does.





Ya i dont man i never micromanaged like that but i went from really small usage to like an 80$ a day habit pretty quick. Your mind has a way of tricking you into believing you are in more control than you are, then one day you wake up sick as a dog.

Not saying you WILL end up that way but just letting you know my experience.

the thing that got me was i would only take a few hits in a sitting, but the spacing in-between those sittings kept getting smaller and as tolerance increases so does your dosage :shrug:


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Re: Heroin; Poll [Re: Dork] * 1
    #19138711 - 11/14/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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i feel like you are defending people that don't exist, but if they do they are most likely habitually spending money on the heroin itself, and the long ass needles that are damaging their muscles over time. I can see someone doing it like once and realizing it was a retarded choice, but not regularly. their tolerance would go up too pretty quickly, so they would definitely have to be pretty faithful to im'ing to keep doing it. -ev.




Not everyone likes to drugs the same way you or the majority of people do.

Not everyone likes the rush of IV use, but they prefer the high BA of it.
Pretty simple concept, if you don't get it then idk what to say, I guess you just don't understand logical reasoning.

And a propes IM injection does very little to virtually no damage, there are a lot of people that inje drugs IM pretty regularly, such as ketamine/mxe users.


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