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OfflineLizard Eyes
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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: 11nova]
    #19136399 - 11/14/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oncue, Dyme Def, Big L, kendrick Lamar, Flatbush Zombies, the underachievers


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: Magicman69]
    #19136425 - 11/14/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah the difference between those two and the mainstream is they actually live the life they rap about.






Oh, so they're real murderers?


In that case, fuck them. They're worthless pieces of human garbage, and likely don't deserve any success or spotlight.


If you simply mean "came from the ghetto, and maybe did some minor stuff" then sure... so didn't almost every other rapper on the planet. 50 cent has bona fide prison sentences for crack. Lil Wayne has more recently been caught with stupid amounts of drugs (though likely personal use). And I have heard of other rappers, or those close to them, engaging in drug dealing.



Now back to my first statement-- in reality I can't judge them. I don't know their lives, or what they had to deal with, or why they made the choices they did. Most of us, in life, just do the best we can with what we know at the time. But I made an extreme statement to make a point. There is absolutely NOTHING cool, or glamorous, or worthy of romanticizing about ghetto life, or gang banging, or murdering people. Nothing.



The really sick thing is that by glorifying this horrible lifestyle, they are not only helping to perpetuate it, and hurt their own people (minorities, in the ghetto) for their own financial gain... but they are convincing white kids growing up in the goddamned suburbs, that this lifestyle is cool, and interesting, and worthy of respect, etc. And I almost can't tell which one of those I find more retarded.




These guys aren't heroes. You know what an "OG" is?  It's someone who is too old and set in habit to change their stupid ways. That's what.



I hate much about the system. It's cruel, unfair, and overall sociopathic. Subverting the system is one thing. And on the surface, it might seem like that's what this (gangsta rap) is.  "Fuck the man, fuck his system, I got some crack and came up my own way." But that's the avancement of one man to the detriment of many. That IS the fucking system.  You think the white-owned record companies are going to release a bunch of music that's truly empowering to the minorities, and the poor?


Even if minorities are starting to own a piece of the distribution networks, finally, see the "OG" argument, above. Many of these rappers know exactly what they're doing. Know the effect their music has on people. They simply don't care, as long as they're still making money, and doing okay for themselves. Then again, growing up poor in a culture that glorifies that type of behavior, they're pretty much trained to do this.



Anyway, sorry for the rant... I just find the glorification of this lifestyle to be a bit disgusting. As has been the current trend in rap for quite a while. Doubly so when it's coming from upper class white kids.



That said, in terms of rap skill (as opposed to gang-banger skill) I find them both to be a bit sub-par. I have liked some of their tracks, but neither have really blown my mind with anything, that I've seen so far. Then again, even many of the "good" mainstream rappers today... Lil Wayne for example... sometimes have some really good stuff, and sometimes have stuff so shit it's like "what was he thinking?"


And as always, 99% of the time it's money, cars, bitches, drugs, I'm-better-than-you, I'll-kill-you-over-nothing, blah blah blah blah, forever and ever amen.



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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: Lizard Eyes]
    #19136431 - 11/14/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Big L yes! Im pretty sure you inteoduced me to flatbush in one thread when I was shrooming, YES!

Kendrick. No.


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: Mescalean]
    #19136552 - 11/14/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Aesop Rock, Illogic, Eyedea, Collective Efforts, to name a few. :smile:

Aesop Rock - Daylight


Illogic - Lesson in Love


Eyedea - Here for You


Collective Efforts - Place on this Earth


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers (moved) [Re: Magicman69]
    #19136556 - 11/14/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This thread was moved from The Pub.

Reason:
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Re: Name some under-rated rappers (moved) [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #19137008 - 11/14/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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<img src='http://www.shroomery.org/forums/images/moved.gif'> This thread was moved from The Pub.

Reason:
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Reason:  Getting too much attention. Let's bury it in a less popular forum?  Or... what?


That's not to say this is not an appropriate forum for this topic. But seriously? I assure you that a good 90% of posts in The Pub (which as I recall is supposed to be for relaxed discussion with few rules regarding posting topic) could be moved to another sub-forum where  it would more closely fit the topic.



Why not move Wiccan's "Post a Song, Rate The One Above it" thread?  That seems to be pretty clearly about music.


"Hot Peppers" Thread. We have a Culinary sub-forum.

"Puking and Smoking"  Physical and Mental Well-being.

"Cigarette Blends"  Other Drugs Discussion

"Does Weed Really Kill Motivation"  Wellbeing / ODD

"I have a Crush on an Indian Girl...Wat do"  Sexuality and Relationships

"90's Hip Hop Rap Appreciation Thread"  Again, music media etc.  Seeing a bit of inconsistency with moving the music related threads, eh?

"Are We Not Allowed to Curse On Here"  Website Feedback

"How to Grind Up Root Bark Effectively"  Chemistry

"The Pyramid Code (Documentary)"  Art and Media / Spirituality Mysticism

"Self Control"  Well-being

"Roommate Had a Psychotic Break Down Last Night"  Well-being / Relationships

"Can Anyone Suggest A Career Path"  Well-being / Money

"Hi Guys, I'm New, Got Some Mushrooms, Can I Do It Alone?"  Psychedelic Experience

"South Florida Auto Show"  Gathering and Travel

"Official Chess Thread"  Gaming Grotto

"54mg Concerta Conversion"  Chemistry / ODD

"Thread For People With Psychological Disturbances"  Well-being

"This Is A Real Story"  Sexuality and Relationships

"In a Bit of a Predicament"  Well-being  (I'm noticing a TON of threads that would better fit this sub)

"so how do you"  well-being / Philosophy





Those are literally from the top 34 threads in the pub (when I began to write this.) Out of 34, twenty-one threads (over half) could have easily been put in a forum where they would be "more appropriate" because of their topic. Okay, it's not 90%.  But it's more than 60%! (About 62%) And 3 of those threads are related to music or media.


It just strikes me as not only inconsistent, but stupid. I hate forums where  the mods are overly rigid. One of the great things about the shroomery is people are usually more laid back, and with the exception of a handful of fairly important rules, the rest of it is sort of "anything goes" and up to the community members to drive content, and the direction of the site.


But hey, what do I know. I've only been here daily for almost nine years. :shrug:


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: Mescalean]
    #19137752 - 11/14/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Big L yes! Im pretty sure you inteoduced me to flatbush in one thread when I was shrooming, YES!

Kendrick. No.





Glad to here all my Flatbush Zombies pumping got through to someone.:thumbup:


But you're wrong on Kendrick, he goes so hard on everything he does. IMO he is running the shit now.  If you're not gonna get in on the Kendrick fun fine by me though  :whatyougonnado:


PS bitches love Kendrick Lamar :awesomenod:


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: Lizard Eyes] * 1
    #19137901 - 11/14/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

DOSEONE



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Re: Name some under-rated rappers (moved) [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #19138003 - 11/14/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yea those rappers that talk about poppin pills are the worst...


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers (moved) [Re: Konyap]
    #19138107 - 11/14/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19139440 - 11/15/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Atmosphere. Atmosphere. Atmosphere.


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: 4Skins]
    #19139806 - 11/15/13 06:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Atmosphere. Atmosphere. Atmosphere.




is not underrated is not underrated is not underrated.

everyone around here loves him as do I, he was the first rapper I ever listened to and the one one that got me into rap.


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: Lizard Eyes]
    #19139834 - 11/15/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My links aren't working...

Run a YouTube search called "OMNIA-dance until we die"


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: Lizard Eyes] * 1
    #19140738 - 11/15/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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Atmosphere. Atmosphere. Atmosphere.




is not underrated is not underrated is not underrated.

everyone around here loves him as do I, he was the first rapper I ever listened to and the one one that got me into rap.



It amazes me how many Atmosphere fans think Atmosphere is a rapper or a dude. Atmosphere is a group; Slug is the rapper.


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: jewunit]
    #19141690 - 11/15/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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jewunit said:
Quote:

Lizard Eyes said:
Quote:

4Skins said:
Atmosphere. Atmosphere. Atmosphere.




is not underrated is not underrated is not underrated.

everyone around here loves him as do I, he was the first rapper I ever listened to and the one one that got me into rap.



It amazes me how many Atmosphere fans think Atmosphere is a rapper or a dude. Atmosphere is a group; Slug is the rapper.





:thatsinteresting:


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: Lizard Eyes] * 1
    #19142035 - 11/15/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

some jazzy groups -

InI


The Justice System


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: ChRnZN]
    #19143274 - 11/15/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not a huge rap fan, but if I listen to any, it's either God Loves Ugly, Sevens, Lemons, and Lucy Ford.


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: 4Skins]
    #19261064 - 12/11/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Flatbush ZOMBiES, Under achievers, Joey Bad ass, Asap NasT.
Bodega Bamz.


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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: GoldenCapAttack]
    #19261628 - 12/11/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'll keep pushing The Coup.

Fixation from Steal this album



I mean come on listen this


Well, this is verbal penetration
Alert your school administration
If you act like a dick castration
It just brings me elation

Your misleading presentation
Was just boring oration
Gun claps from my tech will be your standing ovation
Beat per minute calculations

Match aorta calculations
Which speed up if you eat that greasy defecation at nations
Tear along the perforation
Means collection notification

And you know I stack my scrilla in negative denominations
And that's a damn abomination
It takes all my concentration
To not rob armored transportation

And collect compensation
But it takes contemplation, conspiration
Conversation and propagation
Information, dissemination and tribulations, no hesitation

Indoctrination, affiliation, penitentiary and jail evasion
For liberation and publications
Spell the coup with capitalizations

I was on the verge of ejaculation
Police performed a home evasion
So I cut off the illumination
And jumped out of the ventilation

They were in anticipation
Waiting in voltron formation
So I performed circumnavigation
And then crawled through the foliation

Started my legs to gyration
Caught me, took me to the station
Valuables confiscation, started the interrogation
Causing business complications

Said they wanted pacification
I said, I know all yo macinations
You gets no respect, no information
One mo thang fo yo gestation
Think you should try self fornication




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Re: Name some under-rated rappers [Re: Corporal Kielbasa] * 1
    #19262002 - 12/11/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'd totally say Busdriver. He's one of my favorites. Him and Sage Francis.



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