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Want to experience more psychedlics.
    #19137177 - 11/14/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hi. I am relatively inexperienced when it comes to psychedelics. I have tried Mushrooms 10 times, LSD about the same amount along with Salvia DMT and LSZ & LSA.

I would really like to explore more but am put off by measuring powders - I got a scale and some 4-ACO-DMT but couldn't work out how to measure it properly so took it in small amounts over few hours while taking shrooms which was stupid and likely a waste with regards to tolerance.

Can anyone advise on a good way to experience more psychedelics more safely? What do you recommend as good and why?

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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: nuube]
    #19137206 - 11/14/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

One time I took nutmeg and I got all red eyed and dehydrated. The people in my dorm were concerned about my red eyes and arid posture.

If only they knew....


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: XUL]
    #19137255 - 11/14/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You could try your hand at some psychedelic phenethylamines.


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: themusicofzann]
    #19137267 - 11/14/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'd recommend that you stick with mushrooms, LSD, and DMT.

very well established safety profile.


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: NWlight] * 1
    #19137278 - 11/14/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If ya ain't got jenkem, ya ain't got shit
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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19137282 - 11/14/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19137303 - 11/14/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If ya ain't got jenkem, ya ain't got shit
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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: Ultron]
    #19137367 - 11/14/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

All RC's are pretty much going to require a scale. What issue are you having with it? Once you figure it out scales are pretty easy to use and it shouldn't be too hard to safely dose your chems


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19137446 - 11/14/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You could try your hand at some psychedelic phenethylamines.




I have thought that way but am very weary of powders as I couldn't work out the 4-ACO-DMT. Any site that does any research drugs in a pill form seems to feature the MDMA analogues and the like but not psychedelics. Ideally what I would like are dose specific blotters or pellets that I can take and know reasobly well what dose I am taking. With the 4-ACO-DMT I took it along side shrooms to boost them but at the end I thought I had a reasonable dose to take on its own but got freaked out after taking it in case I had it wrong and took a Benzo almost straight away! I felt like a right spoon!

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One time I took nutmeg and I got all red eyed and dehydrated. The people in my dorm were concerned about my red eyes and arid posture.

If only they knew....




Oh I know! Its just that I could only see AMT and no dose!

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If ya ain't got jenkem, ya ain't got shit
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Not quite the pellets I was looking for :smile:


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: nuube]
    #19137459 - 11/14/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Order a foot or two of Bridgesii.  Mescaline is a very pleasant psychedelic. :cactuar:


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. (moved) [Re: nuube]
    #19137495 - 11/14/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This thread was moved from The Pub.

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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. (moved) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19137527 - 11/14/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Am I allowed to ask about certain sites? I know a mod Ben and he doesn't like it on his site it makes him very angry it just is offically Ben zo furious when it happens.

Does anyone know how to weigh out RC's and explain it to a somewhat slow beginner properly?


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. (moved) [Re: nuube]
    #19137540 - 11/14/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Am I allowed to ask about certain sites? I know a mod Ben and he doesn't like it on his site it makes him very angry it just is offically Ben zo furious when it happens.

Does anyone know how to weigh out RC's and explain it to a somewhat slow beginner properly?




Whats your issue in terms of weighing? What scale do you have? Should be instructions to calibrate it


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: nuube]
    #19137857 - 11/14/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Op you are using a milligram scale right? Like a .001 scale? I don't see where the problem is if that's the case. Just re-measure it like 2 or 3 times to be extra careful. If you don't have a milligram scale get the American Gemeni-20 scale I think it's called, it's only like 20-25 bucks but it's real good. I've measured as low as 12mg on it (of 4acodmt actually) with consistency, definitely recommended

Pretty sure it's not too hard to find DOC, AL-LAD, and NBOME blotters on the web. Definitely don't recommend NBOME's to anybody though

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If ya ain't got jenkem, ya ain't got shit
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Not quite the pellets I was looking for :smile:



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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. (moved) [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19137878 - 11/14/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sheekle why don't you recommend NBOME's to anybody?


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: Sheekle]
    #19137905 - 11/14/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

LSA- is an intense experience especially with maoi
San pedro is amazing aswell
MXE, DXM, ketamine are really interesting if you ever get into dissociatives, i've never learnt more about the universe and science any other way.
Go easy on Nbomes but i recomend trying them a few times, take large doses to experience the chem to the fullest but give your brain breaks since i zapped my brain with them.
All you need is milligram scale unless your dosing nbomes or LSD analoges which you should just get a microgram scale since usually 1 or 2 mg won't make much of difference with other chems.


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. (moved) [Re: nuube]
    #19137910 - 11/14/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They've got like the largest reports of questionable side effects compared to other RC's generally speaking. When I think of NBOME's I think of high schoolers that think they're taking acid.

Check out this famous thread I made a while ago that's jam packed full of popularity and fortune
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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. (moved) [Re: nuube]
    #19137959 - 11/14/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sheekle why don't you recommend NBOME's to anybody?




They can cause seizures and death. Some think it's only from overdose, but i've seen some pretty questionable cases of seizures from reasonable doses... Others may turn out to be right but unless you're really gungho on trying them it's not worth it with safer RC's around


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. (moved) [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19138324 - 11/14/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Fuck nBOM


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: Fuckspice]
    #19139724 - 11/15/13 05:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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LSA- is an intense experience especially with maoi
San pedro is amazing aswell
MXE, DXM, ketamine are really interesting if you ever get into dissociatives, i've never learnt more about the universe and science any other way.
Go easy on Nbomes but i recomend trying them a few times, take large doses to experience the chem to the fullest but give your brain breaks since i zapped my brain with them.
All you need is milligram scale unless your dosing nbomes or LSD analoges which you should just get a microgram scale since usually 1 or 2 mg won't make much of difference with other chems.




So should it be the case if the chem is say 100 mg then if I get it it should weigh 100mg on the scale too?


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: nuube]
    #19139800 - 11/15/13 06:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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LSA- is an intense experience especially with maoi
San pedro is amazing aswell
MXE, DXM, ketamine are really interesting if you ever get into dissociatives, i've never learnt more about the universe and science any other way.
Go easy on Nbomes but i recomend trying them a few times, take large doses to experience the chem to the fullest but give your brain breaks since i zapped my brain with them.
All you need is milligram scale unless your dosing nbomes or LSD analoges which you should just get a microgram scale since usually 1 or 2 mg won't make much of difference with other chems.




So should it be the case if the chem is say 100 mg then if I get it it should weigh 100mg on the scale too?




Not sure if you're asking something else, but yes. Scales tell you how much things weigh. What scale do you have?


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19140045 - 11/15/13 08:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Got this one:


http://secure.julianroe.co.uk/ekmps/shops/julianroebri11/images/pro-w8-prh-series-pocket-scale-100g-[3]-35141-p.jpg

Tried to post picture and then link text but it wouldn't bloody work.


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: nuube]
    #19140148 - 11/15/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Got this one:


http://secure.julianroe.co.uk/ekmps/shops/julianroebri11/images/pro-w8-prh-series-pocket-scale-100g-[3]-35141-p.jpg

Tried to post picture and then link text but it wouldn't bloody work.




Nah... .01 is 10 milligrams and there is an uncertainty in the last digit meaning you will fluctuate between 0-20mg or something. That's too much for RC's. Get the one sheekle said. You need a .001 scale to measure to the milligram.


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19140174 - 11/15/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

1. AL-LAD


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19140206 - 11/15/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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nuube said:
Got this one:


http://secure.julianroe.co.uk/ekmps/shops/julianroebri11/images/pro-w8-prh-series-pocket-scale-100g-[3]-35141-p.jpg

Tried to post picture and then link text but it wouldn't bloody work.




Nah... .01 is 10 milligrams and there is an uncertainty in the last digit meaning you will fluctuate between 0-20mg or something. That's too much for RC's. Get the one sheekle said. You need a .001 scale to measure to the milligram.




Ah! So if I got a better set of scales then 1mg would = 1mg. Jesus with the +/- 20mg that would have been nasty with some substances!

What are decent brands of scales. Thanks for the reply I couldn't understand why it made no sense.


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    #19140328 - 11/15/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: Sheekle]
    #19140339 - 11/15/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM




So just before I buy these. If it comes up 0.001 on this scale it will be 1mg? Also is there much of a margin of error - +/- 2mg say?


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: nuube]
    #19140367 - 11/15/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I certainly don't mean to sound condescending, but I'm incredibly surprised by the lack of know how, when it comes to scales. I mean they're really simple.

As for the OP. OP, what are you looking for? What do you wanna get out of tripping? Because no matter what you're looking for, there's a substance that will fit that desire.


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    #19140455 - 11/15/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I certainly don't mean to sound condescending, but I'm incredibly surprised by the lack of know how, when it comes to scales. I mean they're really simple.

As for the OP. OP, what are you looking for? What do you wanna get out of tripping? Because no matter what you're looking for, there's a substance that will fit that desire.




Not at condesending I think it reflects my fear of not doing things right because of something that could have been easily sorted - to me there is no such thing as a stupid question.

If I look at a 8/500mg cocodamol it does not weigh 508mg. I want to make sure that when I take anything that I will be as safe as I can be and for the experiewnce to be as reqarding as possible and to start a trip with anxiety about dosing seems silly.


As to what I am looking from Psychedelics; I am looking for good visuals with minimum body load. When I was trying HBWR and truffles there was a lot of vomiting, I am OKish with that however due to a sensitive stomach it meant losing a lot very quickly making it difficult to get too far in, if you dig my drift.

Ideally it would not go onto long 8-10hrs is plenty and like a nice introspective side to it. I found the blast off from Salvia to be too intense and it is a strange drug as I wouldn't say it is overly pleasant but has been, well I am stuck to put words here but I have gotten a different perspective with it, much like when I first use LSD.

I only recently got into shrooms, (only had them one before this year and had a lot of alcohol on board) and was completely blown away by Liberty Caps. My god the rush of euphoria that I got was sublime and I had never experienced anything like that with LSD.


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: nuube]
    #19140476 - 11/15/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Honestly, and people can correct me if I'm wrong, but what it sounds like you're looking for is 500ug+ of LSD, maybe even 1mg. But I've never taken that much and I've undergone psychosis 3 times now, but all but one trip was less than roughly 640ug of LSD. LSD intoxication is what I'm trying to point at. An experience where one moment you're in the room, the next moment you've gone to the most psychedelic environment imaginable, it all feels like hours and hours and then you look at the clock and you watch it flip from one minute to the next, and then it starts all over again.


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    #19140495 - 11/15/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Honestly, and people can correct me if I'm wrong, but what it sounds like you're looking for is 500ug+ of LSD, maybe even 1mg. But I've never taken that much and I've undergone psychosis 3 times now, but all but one trip was less than roughly 640ug of LSD. LSD intoxication is what I'm trying to point at. An experience where one moment you're in the room, the next moment you've gone to the most psychedelic environment imaginable, it all feels like hours and hours and then you look at the clock and you watch it flip from one minute to the next, and then it starts all over again.




Oh yeah, If I could get LSD it would be great but I am a teacher so looking for a dealer is too risky and I never got my head around Bitcoin for TSR, (although that may have turned out to be a blessing). I bought LSZ and 300mgs gave me a little and I mean A LITTLE breathing :frown:


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: nuube]
    #19140513 - 11/15/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I would LOVE to hook you up, if I could. Fuck the DEA. I would then, HIGHLY recommend Trichocereus Bridgessi



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    #19140609 - 11/15/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I would LOVE to hook you up, if I could. Fuck the DEA. I would then, HIGHLY recommend Trichocereus Bridgessi



they are amazing! A wonderful experience and a great time growing.




It is stupid how you could send me a bottle of Brandy which is a more dangerous substance and more addictive, linked to lots of murders and rapes yet LSD is illegal!

Have some Peruvian Torch going and a few Peyote as well but it will take some more TLC before they will be ready.


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: nuube]
    #19140688 - 11/15/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I would also like a MXE type trip also, really missed out on the Ketamine thing!


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: nuube]
    #19144538 - 11/16/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

SO can I get an OK on the 1mg of any substance weighs the same and that would be 0.001 on the scales that were recommended by Sheekle?


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: nuube]
    #19144771 - 11/16/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I know right? Have fun with the cacti, they're a treat


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Re: Want to experience more psychedlics. [Re: nuube]
    #19144808 - 11/16/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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SO can I get an OK on the 1mg of any substance weighs the same and that would be 0.001 on the scales that were recommended by Sheekle?




Yes, a milligram is a measure of mass. It doesn't change from substance to substance or what planet you're on, or whatever. It's a fixed number. And yeah, those scales weigh in grams. So .001 is 1 milligram, .01 is 10 milligrams, .1 is 100 milligrams, and 1 is a gram.

Keep in mind though, that scales are built to have a margin of error. Usually being around +/- .002. On a cheap scale you may have +/- .005, though i have the scale sheekle recommended and it is closer to .002, though for safety reasons i would treat it as the latter. This is kind of like a deviation for measurements. So if you weigh something at 10mg and you have a +/- .003 scale, it means that the true mass of what you're weighing is really between .007 and .013. So for that reason, do not use it with potent drugs like nbomes and DOC. Only drugs where a few milligrams only makes mild differences in intoxication. Things like MXE, 4-sub-tryptamines, 2c-x, mdma, etc.


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    #19144820 - 11/16/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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SO can I get an OK on the 1mg of any substance weighs the same and that would be 0.001 on the scales that were recommended by Sheekle?




Yes, a milligram is a measure of mass. It doesn't change from substance to substance or what planet you're on, or whatever. It's a fixed number. And yeah, those scales weigh in grams. So .001 is 1 milligram, .01 is 10 milligrams, .1 is 100 milligrams, and 1 is a gram.

Keep in mind though, that scales are built to have a margin of error. Usually being around +/- .002. On a cheap scale you may have +/- .005, though i have the scale sheekle recommended and it is closer to .002, though for safety reasons i would treat it as the latter. This is kind of like a deviation for measurements. So if you weigh something at 10mg and you have a +/- .003 scale, it means that the true mass of what you're weighing is really between .007 and .013. So for that reason, do not use it with potent drugs like nbomes and DOC. Only drugs where a few milligrams only makes mild differences in intoxication. Things like MXE, 4-sub-tryptamines, 2c-x, mdma, etc.






Not to be a ball buster, but technically, wouldn't mass, which is related to gravity if I'm not mistaken, change from planet to planet?


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SO can I get an OK on the 1mg of any substance weighs the same and that would be 0.001 on the scales that were recommended by Sheekle?




Yes, a milligram is a measure of mass. It doesn't change from substance to substance or what planet you're on, or whatever. It's a fixed number. And yeah, those scales weigh in grams. So .001 is 1 milligram, .01 is 10 milligrams, .1 is 100 milligrams, and 1 is a gram.

Keep in mind though, that scales are built to have a margin of error. Usually being around +/- .002. On a cheap scale you may have +/- .005, though i have the scale sheekle recommended and it is closer to .002, though for safety reasons i would treat it as the latter. This is kind of like a deviation for measurements. So if you weigh something at 10mg and you have a +/- .003 scale, it means that the true mass of what you're weighing is really between .007 and .013. So for that reason, do not use it with potent drugs like nbomes and DOC. Only drugs where a few milligrams only makes mild differences in intoxication. Things like MXE, 4-sub-tryptamines, 2c-x, mdma, etc.






Not to be a ball buster, but technically, wouldn't mass, which is related to gravity if I'm not mistaken, change from planet to planet?




I believe it's weight that changes from planet to planet. And by believe i mean i am 99.999% sure but there is always the chance of some quantum theorist getting on here and nitpicking me for details.


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SO can I get an OK on the 1mg of any substance weighs the same and that would be 0.001 on the scales that were recommended by Sheekle?




Yes, a milligram is a measure of mass. It doesn't change from substance to substance or what planet you're on, or whatever. It's a fixed number. And yeah, those scales weigh in grams. So .001 is 1 milligram, .01 is 10 milligrams, .1 is 100 milligrams, and 1 is a gram.

Keep in mind though, that scales are built to have a margin of error. Usually being around +/- .002. On a cheap scale you may have +/- .005, though i have the scale sheekle recommended and it is closer to .002, though for safety reasons i would treat it as the latter. This is kind of like a deviation for measurements. So if you weigh something at 10mg and you have a +/- .003 scale, it means that the true mass of what you're weighing is really between .007 and .013. So for that reason, do not use it with potent drugs like nbomes and DOC. Only drugs where a few milligrams only makes mild differences in intoxication. Things like MXE, 4-sub-tryptamines, 2c-x, mdma, etc.






Not to be a ball buster, but technically, wouldn't mass, which is related to gravity if I'm not mistaken, change from planet to planet?





Weight = mass * gravitiy.  Mass is universal and does not change with changing gravity.


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Weight = mass * gravitiy.  Mass is universal and does not change with changing gravity.




Yeah, pretty much what i said, except his name is Physicist so you can trust him


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    #19145061 - 11/16/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks JacksonMetaller. I know it might have sounded stupid but better safe than sorry. Yeah the DOC is low on dose so wouldn't dick around with those scales.


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    #19145081 - 11/16/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks JacksonMetaller. I know it might have sounded stupid but better safe than sorry. Yeah the DOC is low on dose so wouldn't dick around with those scales.




No problem man. I ask a lot of questions that i feel are stupid sometimes, but i just like to be safe and i don't trust myself to properly analyze everything i find on google. Sometimes it's just more comfortable to ask the question directly to someone who knows the answer.

Do you have DOC? If so you have to do a volumetric dilution as you're not going to be finding a scale for under 1000 that decently measures doses like that.


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    #19145115 - 11/16/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks JacksonMetaller. I know it might have sounded stupid but better safe than sorry. Yeah the DOC is low on dose so wouldn't dick around with those scales.




No problem man. I ask a lot of questions that i feel are stupid sometimes, but i just like to be safe and i don't trust myself to properly analyze everything i find on google. Sometimes it's just more comfortable to ask the question directly to someone who knows the answer.

Do you have DOC? If so you have to do a volumetric dilution as you're not going to be finding a scale for under 1000 that decently measures doses like that.




Nothing got yet. I am looking for reputable vendors but as I don't belong to a RC forum I think I may have to join to learn about sources.


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    #19145221 - 11/16/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks JacksonMetaller. I know it might have sounded stupid but better safe than sorry. Yeah the DOC is low on dose so wouldn't dick around with those scales.




No problem man. I ask a lot of questions that i feel are stupid sometimes, but i just like to be safe and i don't trust myself to properly analyze everything i find on google. Sometimes it's just more comfortable to ask the question directly to someone who knows the answer.

Do you have DOC? If so you have to do a volumetric dilution as you're not going to be finding a scale for under 1000 that decently measures doses like that.




Nothing got yet. I am looking for reputable vendors but as I don't belong to a RC forum I think I may have to join to learn about sources.




Yeah, chemsrus is a good place for RC discussion. At least that's what i think it's called... Also, you can just do google searches on the chems you want and then use safeorscam.com to see if they're legit. Is there anything in particular you're looking for? Just out of curiosity


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    #19145263 - 11/16/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks JacksonMetaller. I know it might have sounded stupid but better safe than sorry. Yeah the DOC is low on dose so wouldn't dick around with those scales.




No problem man. I ask a lot of questions that i feel are stupid sometimes, but i just like to be safe and i don't trust myself to properly analyze everything i find on google. Sometimes it's just more comfortable to ask the question directly to someone who knows the answer.

Do you have DOC? If so you have to do a volumetric dilution as you're not going to be finding a scale for under 1000 that decently measures doses like that.




Nothing got yet. I am looking for reputable vendors but as I don't belong to a RC forum I think I may have to join to learn about sources.




Yeah, chemsrus is a good place for RC discussion. At least that's what i think it's called... Also, you can just do google searches on the chems you want and then use safeorscam.com to see if they're legit. Is there anything in particular you're looking for? Just out of curiosity




Cheers for the safeorscam.com that will save some looking.

Am interested in the 2C family if possible seen some 25C-NBOMe blotters out there and MXE also, (I missed out on the K scene - have come late to the party!).

Thanks for your patience and help.


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    #19145373 - 11/16/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

2c's are illegal in the US. Elsewhere you may be able to find it. Some people like nbome, but i personally chose to stay away. Not the best safety reputation


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    #19145649 - 11/16/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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2c's are illegal in the US. Elsewhere you may be able to find it. Some people like nbome, but i personally chose to stay away. Not the best safety reputation




Yeah I already know that about the Nbome but from what I read it seems very much dose related and I would titrate slowly, (want to enjoy the trip not end in hospital or even dead). I don't think the 2C's I want are legal here either!

I would ideally like a substance that gives an initial euphoria like I got with Liberty Caps, (not a mad rush), lasting around 8hrs, have a high safety profile and a long plateau with a nice relaxed edge to it. Plenty of visuals.

And it would be hand if easily sourced too :smile:


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    #19145726 - 11/16/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah people argue that about the nbomes, but I've heard of people having seizures on reasonable doses. Maybe it's not terribly likely, but it's just a sketchy drug IMO. Not saying no one should ever do it, but there are just better options


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    #19148591 - 11/17/13 06:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah people argue that about the nbomes, but I've heard of people having seizures on reasonable doses. Maybe it's not terribly likely, but it's just a sketchy drug IMO. Not saying no one should ever do it, but there are just better options




What would you recommend for me when I am looking for this sort of substance:

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I would ideally like a substance that gives an initial euphoria like I got with Liberty Caps, (not a mad rush), lasting around 8hrs, have a high safety profile and a long plateau with a nice relaxed edge to it. Plenty of visuals.




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    #19148598 - 11/17/13 06:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You could learn to grow magic cacti like Bridgesii and never worry about rc's again.
I would reccomend growing all your own magic plants and fungi.
One thing I would like to try is noncubensis mushrooms and magic truffles.


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    #19148717 - 11/17/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

With the Cacti there is a lengthy waiting period. I have peyote and Peruvian Torch on the go at the minute but the Peyote is some years away :frown:

It's been hit and miss with the mushroom kits so I could always try spores,  and do my own (anyone know a good mentor on here willing to take on Forest Gump? :smile: ) but would like to try some other types of hallucinogens too.


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    #19148811 - 11/17/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well there are a bunch in the way of tryptamines. 4-aco-dmt, 4-ho-met are supposed to be some of the best... But from what i hear, most of the 4-sub-trypts are pretty worthwhile for the most part. If you want something closer to LSD, then AL-LAD and LSZ are your best bet.


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    #19149058 - 11/17/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I took 300mcg of LSZ and only got a bit of breathing!


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    #19149211 - 11/17/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I took 300mcg of LSZ and only got a bit of breathing!




Really?? wtf. Some people are saying it's really strong and i took a tab yesterday and barely felt it.


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    #19149338 - 11/17/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I get the feeling this is a troll thread but oh well. 100mg would read 0.100 on the scale. 15mg would read 0.015


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I get the feeling this is a troll thread but oh well. 100mg would read 0.100 on the scale. 15mg would read 0.015




Why? There does not appear to be any animosity just a newcomer finding out info!


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I took 300mcg of LSZ and only got a bit of breathing!




Really?? wtf. Some people are saying it's really strong and i took a tab yesterday and barely felt it.




I have read some good trip reports at doses as low as 75mcgs and they were meant to be mind blowing at 300mcg. Have to say I was very disappointed.


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I get the feeling this is a troll thread but oh well. 100mg would read 0.100 on the scale. 15mg would read 0.015




Why? There does not appear to be any animosity just a newcomer finding out info!




Sorry about that it was just the way you said you couldn't figure out the scale I thought you were messing with us. Now I understand you were just being cautious.  But don't worry just make sure you understand how to read the scale and double or triple check it before you consume.  Say you want to take 15mg just take some tweezers or something small to put tiny scoops of powder on the scale until it says 0.015 then carefully put it in a capsule or just drink it down in some juice.


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I get the feeling this is a troll thread but oh well. 100mg would read 0.100 on the scale. 15mg would read 0.015




Why? There does not appear to be any animosity just a newcomer finding out info!




Sorry about that it was just the way you said you couldn't figure out the scale I thought you were messing with us. Now I understand you were just being cautious.  But don't worry just make sure you understand how to read the scale and double or triple check it before you consume.  Say you want to take 15mg just take some tweezers or something small to put tiny scoops of powder on the scale until it says 0.015 then carefully put it in a capsule or just drink it down in some juice.




When I got the scale I thought it would do milligrams, when I got the chem obviously it weighed strange and I could not understand it - I figured 1mg = 1mg, (like the old thing what weighs heavier a ton of feathers or a ton of lead?), but I could not see this from the scale! I then thought there was some  fact I was missing - which turned out to be I bought the wrong scales.

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    #19154065 - 11/18/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just looking around there and for things that are active at such small quantities the vendors all seem to be looking you to buy in bulk!


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    #19154532 - 11/18/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Consider pharmahuasca along with lemon essential oil to prevent seretonergic nausea.


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    #19175678 - 11/22/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hi Guys. I have finally found a site and did what I needed to do so now am getting the scales sorted. I am thinking of one of these two and would like some of your expert advice please:

Scale 1

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Would either of these be OK?

Thanks again for all your time and help- really means a lot.


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    #19175891 - 11/22/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think those are both the same scale.  But yea that one would do ya fine; I've actually seen it recommended on Shroomery a couple times as a good thrifty .001g scale.


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Cheers flickedbic, have ordered the scales...........and now I wait!


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