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solarshroomster
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Legal Growing Concerns
#19136175 - 11/14/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Please don't refer me to the page on state laws... I know about it. My question is specific...
I am looking to grow shrooms for microscopy purposes 
I understand spores are legal. Once you inoculate the substrate, at what point is psilocybin/the illegal compound created?
The issue is that I want to grow them only to the extent that they are legal. Can I allow for full colonization and have it be legal? I assume psilocybin... the illegal psychedelic compound only emerges once it has been fully birthed. After all, you can't get high, I assume, on colonized cakes that haven't fruited... right?
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fatchillin
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as soon as they germinate you have psychedelic compounds. you actually can make tea out of cakes, its gross though
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JMcDoogle
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Re: Legal Growing Concerns [Re: fatchillin]
#19136216 - 11/14/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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solarshroomster said: I am looking to grow shrooms for microscopy purposes 
As soon as you say 'grow' we all know you aren't doing microscopy.
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bodhisatta 
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solarshroomster said: The issue is that I want to grow them only to the extent that they are legal.
growing them is the not legal part. Once spores have germinated anything from there forward is illegal, cubensis mycellium is illegal.
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just quit lying and grow the drugs
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You don't even have to actually grow illegal mushrooms to view spores under a microscope....
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Re: Legal Growing Concerns [Re: kneesocks]
#19136401 - 11/14/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't grow.
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If your'e growing psilocybe species, or any species containing psilocybin its illegal. Pretty much as soon as the spore has germinated you have an illegal substance on your hands. Spores being sold for microscopy are sold with the intent that the person using them will look at the spores themselves under the microscope.
I don't think the excuse "I was growing them for microscopy." would work unless your actually a mycologist with special permission to work with illicit mushrooms.
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Re: Legal Growing Concerns [Re: Mrcloudy]
#19137048 - 11/14/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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pan cincs may have a loop hole,wikipedia states there not scheduled in the us
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Re: Legal Growing Concerns [Re: cronicr]
#19137071 - 11/14/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The intent to germinate is illegal. Spores are for microscopy purposes only, so that mycologists can identify species.
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Re: Legal Growing Concerns [Re: cronicr]
#19137451 - 11/14/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: pan cincs may have a loop hole,wikipedia states there not scheduled in the us
Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Legal Growing Concerns [Re: cronicr]
#19137458 - 11/14/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: pan cincs may have a loop hole,wikipedia states there not scheduled in the us
I'm sure the analogs act and any field test would have them seen as generic hallucinogenic mushrooms in court.
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ryan
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In theory one could germinate on high maltose media (>10%), which has been shown to suppress production of psilocybin. Germination is not illegal, its the psilocybin that is.
Never understood why San Pedro is legal, even though it contains mescaline, and shrooms, which are not specifically outlawed (just like San Pedro), are not subject to the same treatment under the law.
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Re: Legal Growing Concerns [Re: bodhisatta]
#19137483 - 11/14/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can't imagine that the law would distinguish between one species of drugs and another species of the same drugs.
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bodhisatta 
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wildernessjunkie said: I can't imagine that the law would distinguish between one species of drugs and another species of the same drugs.
They wouldn't. Unless you're rich as all hell and can afford a lawyer who will bring in a mycologist to testify any mushroom you grow that tips off a field test or if your county is rich enough a HPLC test it's just going to be called "hallucinogenic mushroom" on a court document.
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Re: Legal Growing Concerns [Re: bodhisatta]
#19137951 - 11/14/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta 
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The intent to distribute is such bullshit. I've bought a 2-4oz of weed before just so I wouldn't have to go buy two eighths a week.
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