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Invisiblerusshroom
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In a bit of a predicament...
    #19133357 - 11/13/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So, I have this re-occuring issue. The issue is daily painful migraines. These are not headaches by any means, and anyone who suffers from migraines will tell you that. They are much more painful.

I have been suffering from migraines since I can literally remember. Now, my memory isn't the best, but I do have one. I remember being as young as 8 years old suffering from them. I am 20 years old now, and this has been a constant thing. At times, my migraines make me somewhat suicidal. Not like I want to kill myself in general, but more so that I want to destroy my brain in order to put myself at peace, whether that be with a gun or a truck tire or whatever. I use Rick Simpson oil AKA Pheonix Tears to help me rest.

Here's where it gets really tricky for me; My brother. Today, my brother tells me that I should see a doctor. He said that our mother's cancer started with daily migraines much like mine. I called my step dad to talk to him about my health insurance, because I thought I might be on his til I am 26, but that's not the case because he isn't my legal guardian. So, because I have no fucking parents (father died when I was young from liver cancer/medical malpractice & mother died when I was 15 from breast cancer/medical malpractice), I have no health insurance. I am not covered. I tried to get some assistance, but they wont give me shit.

I went to the ER after being sick last winter for 4 months straight with pharyngitis. I told them at the desk that I had no money, and that I did not wish to be seen if I was going to be hounded for fucking payments down the road. They assured me that they could see me and that that wouldn't be the case, but low and behold a couple months later, I get a bill in the mail for over 1,000 dollars in medical fees. They wrote me off 5 scripts for opiates, steroids, and anti-biotics (over 120 pills) that I never went and got. I was literally better the next day. They tried to get me to (on top of paying over a grand in fees) take 120 pills that I didn't even need to be taking. They fixed whatever was wrong with me with a pill and a dixie cup full of water.

The whole western medicine system is fucked. They don't want you to get better, they want you to get addicted to their shit so you have to buy more shit and then eventually buy shit to counter act the shit you've been buying.

Back to my brother telling me to go to the doctor because he sees a similarity in my case and my mothers; My Mom (as well as my Dad) also died from all of the fucked up shit she had to go through with all of those medical procedures and chemotherapy. I think if we didn't live in a fucked up world where Cannabis is a federal crime, maybe my mother would be alive today. I think if my mother had legitimate access to high quality medicinal cannabis applications, she very literally would not have died. At the very least, I KNOW she would have been a lot happier and more at peace if she could have been opportuned to use Cannabis medicinally, rather than being fried by radiation and chemo, only to be treated with opiates that only make you more sick. I truly believe she would still be here if people would have listened to me more when I was saying it. I mentioned using hemp oil as a treatment, and I was scoffed at. I was laughed at because I was the 15 year old pot head drop out. I truly believe I could have saved her. I don't want any of their medicine, non-narcotic or not. I refuse to take part in that anymore. I eat healthy, I quit smoking cigarettes, I never drink alcohol; I'd like to think that I live a pretty healthy life.

My dilemma is what the fuck do I do? These migraines are killing me, but I know what western medicine will do to me too. I am literally on my last wit, and honestly kind of fucking scared right now.

I just figured I'd post this here, because the Shroomery and mycology are the only things that stay calm when there's a storm.

Someone please talk to me.


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: russhroom]
    #19133362 - 11/13/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

tl:dr

I probably will later though...maybe...probably not.


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19133406 - 11/13/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Can your brother help you with the bills?  If you're that broke, and they try and charge you a bunch of money, it may be worth it to rack up the medical debt, get fixed, and file for bankruptcy.  Yeah, it will be there for 10 years on your credit report, but if it fixes it, who cares?

Are there any doctors in your family that could write a prescription for you in someone else's name who has insurance?  Sometimes you gotta think outside the box on these kinds of things.


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Invisiblerusshroom
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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19136035 - 11/14/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Can your brother help you with the bills?  If you're that broke, and they try and charge you a bunch of money, it may be worth it to rack up the medical debt, get fixed, and file for bankruptcy.  Yeah, it will be there for 10 years on your credit report, but if it fixes it, who cares?

Are there any doctors in your family that could write a prescription for you in someone else's name who has insurance?  Sometimes you gotta think outside the box on these kinds of things.




No money for medical bills.

Will not take their drugs.

Migraines might be the end of me.


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: russhroom]
    #19136056 - 11/14/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You're not taking their drugs, they're getting prescribed the drugs you need, and will give them to you.

Unless by "their" you mean "the man" or some other bullshit?


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19136089 - 11/14/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Strong narcotics :homerdrool: bye bye migraine, hello nap


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Invisiblerusshroom
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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19140125 - 11/15/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
You're not taking their drugs, they're getting prescribed the drugs you need, and will give them to you.

Unless by "their" you mean "the man" or some other bullshit?





My problem with it is that I know first hand that they will prescribe me drugs that I do not need. The pharma companies need custies.


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: Magicman69]
    #19140133 - 11/15/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Magicman69 said:
Strong narcotics :homerdrool: bye bye migraine, hello nap




I can't even take a vicodin without ending up in the ER. I have allergic reactions to most opiates.


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: russhroom]
    #19140194 - 11/15/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You should definitely go to the doctor if you can somehow find a way in. I pray that it is not cancer for your sake. It sounds like you have had a tough life already. I am curious, have you taken mushrooms lately? If you take mushrooms and the headaches go away that might be a sign that they are cluster headaches. I would first listen to your brother though and get into the hospital. I am with you though on the whole hospitals try to fuck people over because they do. If you talk to the billing agency and tell them you cannot afford it they will probably write off the costs of the medical bills. I had like 1,500 dollars written completely off because I was in the same situation. I hope you get into the hospital and get well.


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Invisiblerusshroom
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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: mindgnome]
    #19140214 - 11/15/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

mindgnome said:
You should definitely go to the doctor if you can somehow find a way in. I pray that it is not cancer for your sake. It sounds like you have had a tough life already. I am curious, have you taken mushrooms lately? If you take mushrooms and the headaches go away that might be a sign that they are cluster headaches. I would first listen to your brother though and get into the hospital. I am with you though on the whole hospitals try to fuck people over because they do. If you talk to the billing agency and tell them you cannot afford it they will probably write off the costs of the medical bills. I had like 1,500 dollars written completely off because I was in the same situation. I hope you get into the hospital and get well.





I have taken mushrooms in hopes to aid my migraine on a few separate occasions. It seems to be like a coin flip. The mushrooms either help exponentially in aiding me, or they amplify the pain in my brain. Thank you for your reply, your words mean a lot to me.


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: russhroom]
    #19140242 - 11/15/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah dude just as soon as possible. Even if it isn't something as serious as cancer at least you got into the doctor. It will be a lot of weight off your shoulders regardless of what happens.


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"Psychedelic drugs don't change you - they don't change your character - unless you want to be changed. They enable change; they can't impose it...” - Sasha Shulgin


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: russhroom]
    #19140244 - 11/15/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't really know of anything to say that will definitely help.

Have you tried using peppermint oil for your head? I can get you specifics of where to get some from a good source. You just put a few drops on your hands, and inhale through your nose for as long as you want basically (I do it until it starts to burn slightly). Then you rub some on your neck.

This cures 90% of my headaches within 10 minutes. No pills needed, all natural. There are a lot of other essential oils out there with medicinal value as well.

I know migraines are different, but this might be worth a try. I had a friend growing up from elementary school through high school who suffered from terrible migraines as well. It kept her out of school most of the time.

I hope you find an answer. All bad things will pass with time


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: russhroom]
    #19140326 - 11/15/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sorry you're having to deal with all this.

:hug:

I've had really shit luck with western medicine as well. I even had health insurance for the past couple of months through my old job and even when I went in with my shiny health insurance card, it just felt....icky. I was, however, able to pretty much rule out anything serious through some blood testing and what not. In general though I think western medicine is sorely lacking in the HEALING department. They just cover up symptoms with pills, and day by day we're getting fatter and sicker here. The emergency care and the fixing of broken bones and what not.....

Personally I have had the most luck with alternative healing - working with my diet, herbs, lifestyle changes. I am taking a 4 month training in Herbalism right now, and I consider it my form of "health insurance". The fact of the matter is western medicine is a new baby in comparison to old herbal/botanical healing ways. That have been working for thousands of years, I might add.

I know the skeptics are going to come in here with their facts and figures and try to discredit alternative healing modalities, and I understand. Until you've personally had an experience with this type of healing, it's hard to believe that it works, so I get it.

Anyway OP we have our class on the nervous system & brain on Nov. 25th and I'm gonna ask my teacher about your situation. She's amazing and has been a practicing herbalist for over 30 years and has HEALED (not just masked the symptoms of) thousands and thousands through her practice.

couple of quotes on western medicine that make me go "fuck yeah!"

"Your MD is trained to orchestrate a hostile takeover of the biochemical reactions in your body in order to 'manage your symptoms'. They DON'T cure heartburn. They DON'T cure high blood pressure. They DON'T cure type II diabetes. They DON'T cure arthritis. They DON'T cure anxiety and panic attacks. They DON'T CURE ANYTHING. They manage symptoms. Synthetic man-made chemicals do NOT HEAL. Therefore, MD's DO NOT PRACTICE HEALTHCARE.

It's simple really. Your body needs raw organic natural substances to repair itself; (70) Plant-based Minerals (that are barely in our foods, but are 66% of our nutrient needs), also (16) vitamins, (8-12) amino acids, and (2-3) EFA's Every day. When you take these things, your biochemical reactions in your body are supported and it fixes itself, and you gain energy."

"MD's DON'T practice healthcare, they practice disease management and symptom suppression through the delivery of man made synthetic drugs and surgical procedures.

The procedures from medical doctors, 99% of the time, the intentions of which are NOT TO FIX ANYTHING, but to manage and medicate the symptoms.

As an example, the arthritic condition is never fixed, but the arthritic joint is removed, until it gets so bad that they need another fake knee & then it spreads to the other knee & then it spreads to the shoulder & then it spreads to the spine & then you die with 5 fake joints in your body and hundreds of thousands of $ medical bills.

Your grief stricken relatives are then so enrolled in the LIE of western pharmaceutical allopathic reductionistic medicine, that they organize a 5k run on your behalf, to give more $ to arthritis research (big pharma).

Scammed in every way possible and never approaching the root of the disease or listening to the licensed and regulated naturopaths that can actually reverse the numerous growing epidemics, rapidly and safely. The gullible, hard-headed, dogmatic masses and their stockholm syndrome. 'Murica!!"

tl;dr

boo western medicine, yay herbal/alternative methods. health is wealth! fuck america's "health care" system!


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: yogabunny]
    #19141252 - 11/15/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

dontknow said:
I don't really know of anything to say that will definitely help.

Have you tried using peppermint oil for your head? I can get you specifics of where to get some from a good source. You just put a few drops on your hands, and inhale through your nose for as long as you want basically (I do it until it starts to burn slightly). Then you rub some on your neck.

This cures 90% of my headaches within 10 minutes. No pills needed, all natural. There are a lot of other essential oils out there with medicinal value as well.

I know migraines are different, but this might be worth a try. I had a friend growing up from elementary school through high school who suffered from terrible migraines as well. It kept her out of school most of the time.

I hope you find an answer. All bad things will pass with time




Where can I get some of this oil? It seems to be worth a shot. PM me, I am willing to try anything.


Quote:

pika* said:
I'm sorry you're having to deal with all this.

:hug:

I've had really shit luck with western medicine as well. I even had health insurance for the past couple of months through my old job and even when I went in with my shiny health insurance card, it just felt....icky. I was, however, able to pretty much rule out anything serious through some blood testing and what not. In general though I think western medicine is sorely lacking in the HEALING department. They just cover up symptoms with pills, and day by day we're getting fatter and sicker here. The emergency care and the fixing of broken bones and what not.....

Personally I have had the most luck with alternative healing - working with my diet, herbs, lifestyle changes. I am taking a 4 month training in Herbalism right now, and I consider it my form of "health insurance". The fact of the matter is western medicine is a new baby in comparison to old herbal/botanical healing ways. That have been working for thousands of years, I might add.

I know the skeptics are going to come in here with their facts and figures and try to discredit alternative healing modalities, and I understand. Until you've personally had an experience with this type of healing, it's hard to believe that it works, so I get it.

Anyway OP we have our class on the nervous system & brain on Nov. 25th and I'm gonna ask my teacher about your situation. She's amazing and has been a practicing herbalist for over 30 years and has HEALED (not just masked the symptoms of) thousands and thousands through her practice.

couple of quotes on western medicine that make me go "fuck yeah!"

"Your MD is trained to orchestrate a hostile takeover of the biochemical reactions in your body in order to 'manage your symptoms'. They DON'T cure heartburn. They DON'T cure high blood pressure. They DON'T cure type II diabetes. They DON'T cure arthritis. They DON'T cure anxiety and panic attacks. They DON'T CURE ANYTHING. They manage symptoms. Synthetic man-made chemicals do NOT HEAL. Therefore, MD's DO NOT PRACTICE HEALTHCARE.

It's simple really. Your body needs raw organic natural substances to repair itself; (70) Plant-based Minerals (that are barely in our foods, but are 66% of our nutrient needs), also (16) vitamins, (8-12) amino acids, and (2-3) EFA's Every day. When you take these things, your biochemical reactions in your body are supported and it fixes itself, and you gain energy."

"MD's DON'T practice healthcare, they practice disease management and symptom suppression through the delivery of man made synthetic drugs and surgical procedures.

The procedures from medical doctors, 99% of the time, the intentions of which are NOT TO FIX ANYTHING, but to manage and medicate the symptoms.

As an example, the arthritic condition is never fixed, but the arthritic joint is removed, until it gets so bad that they need another fake knee & then it spreads to the other knee & then it spreads to the shoulder & then it spreads to the spine & then you die with 5 fake joints in your body and hundreds of thousands of $ medical bills.

Your grief stricken relatives are then so enrolled in the LIE of western pharmaceutical allopathic reductionistic medicine, that they organize a 5k run on your behalf, to give more $ to arthritis research (big pharma).

Scammed in every way possible and never approaching the root of the disease or listening to the licensed and regulated naturopaths that can actually reverse the numerous growing epidemics, rapidly and safely. The gullible, hard-headed, dogmatic masses and their stockholm syndrome. 'Murica!!"

tl;dr

boo western medicine, yay herbal/alternative methods. health is wealth! fuck america's "health care" system!




Thank you for actually understanding the dilemma I am in. I have tried conveying this issue to a number of peers, and to my unfortunate understanding, they do not understand. Knowing that there are others out there who KNOW that western medicine is a death trap gives me a small amount of hope. I would love to hear back from you after your class on the 25th.


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: russhroom]
    #19141269 - 11/15/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Id also appreciate a peppermint oil source :pm:

Also i'd like to check out any resources you have on natural holistic remedies pika*

Much appreciated!


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: TheMovement]
    #19141421 - 11/15/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: yogabunny]
    #19142149 - 11/15/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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pika* said:
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/ is great!



That looks a lot better than the one I've been using. And it's like 4x cheaper


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: dontknow]
    #19142289 - 11/15/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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"Your MD is trained to orchestrate a hostile takeover of the biochemical reactions in your body in order to 'manage your symptoms'. They DON'T cure heartburn. They DON'T cure high blood pressure. They DON'T cure type II diabetes. They DON'T cure arthritis. They DON'T cure anxiety and panic attacks. They DON'T CURE ANYTHING. They manage symptoms. Synthetic man-made chemicals do NOT HEAL. Therefore, MD's DO NOT PRACTICE HEALTHCARE.




Wrong. Just because there isn't a cure for every disease, doesn't mean that the doctors are out to get you. First off unlike this suggests there are plenty of cures that medicine has. Non-resistant syphilis is easily cured with penicillin. There are hundreds of other examples. People though, tend to be dissatisfied that Western medicine isn't some sort of instant magic cure all. Sorry but the causes of some diseases are unknown.

Even when they are know it is an incredibly difficult job to figure out how to fix it. News Flash: synthetic =|= evil. Some conditions are better treated with therapy, especially anxiety and panic disorders. But just because someone hasn't invented a cure for your specific disease doesn't mean that their just trying to extort you for money. :rolleyes: Sometimes symptom management is the best that can be done. You know, unless you now how to make the immune system just stop attacking the body. (arthritis)


By the way OP, I hope you feel better. And have you tried psychedelics, there supposed to help.


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19143020 - 11/15/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

they may not be personally trying to extort my money, but if they're not trying to actually heal me, and are just trying to cover up my symptoms with a pill...then wtf is the point?


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Re: In a bit of a predicament... [Re: russhroom]
    #19143081 - 11/15/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Smoke weed no joke it helped my friend with your problem really it did I’m not just one of those stoners just saying what stoners do, but I guess because your on the site you already do but just in case you don't. Second acupuncture I have seen it work miracles/ Third my friend Obama care, you have to get health insurance this year. Also I’m guessing that you haven’t been dying of cancer your whole life so breathe easier on that front. Migraines blow some hard dicks sorry to hear about your predicament really do peruse acupuncture its will work and its affordable to some extent. Also keep track of what foods you are eating and the environment you are in anything from food allergies to florescent lighting could be the thorn in your paw.  also pick up those scripts sell them pain pills money makes most people feel a little bit better or at least you could buy your self some nice things or something. don't really do that last part with the drug selling it was a joke. them pills destroy lives 


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