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OfflineTheMovement
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Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night..
    #19135292 - 11/14/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

He came home from the library while im watching a movie with this girl, walks in and starts talking to us wayy louder than necessary " HOWS THE MOVIE THEMOVEMENT? HUH YOU LIKE IT?  YOU HADA GOOD DAY HUH?"

the girl basically told him to stfu and he said "Oh you're watching the movie?  You're watching the movie themovement?"  I told him I was and he replied " OH REALLY? doesnt fucking seem like youre watching the movie" then he sat down and started breathing really heavy, the girl told him to breathe normally, he said he cant and went upstairs.

When he came downstairs he sat down and resumed the breathing thing.  He walked into the kitchen and yelled " I wish you'd just stop fucking with me themovement"  I asked him what he was talking about and he started talking very loud but not yelling

" You know what im fucking talking about themovement, dont act like you dont.. stop playing these fucking games with me.  You've been driving me crazy fucking with my head, all day i couldnt concentrate because you wouldnt let me.  I got a fucking 38 on my test...Just get out of my mind stop acting like you dont know what im talking about"

He kept going on and on like that for a little bit, being very hostile towards me, positive that I was in his mind controlling him.  I went to the basement with my other roommate to give him space, he came down a few minutes later and the convo went something like this:

"THEMOVEMENT just let me go dude.  Just let me go already its not a fucking game dude its my life.  Stop treating it like a game " 

After Telling him several times idk what hes talking about, hes working himself up even more " Fine dude im letting you go, bam i let you go dude now go back upstairs"

He replied " SO YOU DO KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT?  RIGHT THERE YOU ADMITTED IT!  Im just gonna wait here until I Feel like myself again ok themovement?  Because I dont feeel Like myself yet.  I dont think you let me go yet, just do it man"

At that point im thinkin its time to GTFO there before he stabs me.  Get the girl and tell her we are leaving.  As we are leaving hes still freaking out about me letting him go, he also said something like " This isnt me, i only sound like this when Themovements in my head.."

Im not sure what the point of this thread is, just needed to get it out.. I have to finish the semester with this kid..  Gonna be doing a lot of couch surfing most likely .

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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: TheMovement]
    #19135307 - 11/14/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That sounds rough. Does he have any family close-by that you can contact? Maybe they can convince him to get the help he needs....


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: TheMovement] * 4
    #19135319 - 11/14/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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After Telling him several times idk what hes talking about, hes working himself up even more " Fine dude im letting you go, bam i let you go dude now go back upstairs"

He replied " SO YOU DO KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT?  RIGHT THERE YOU ADMITTED IT!  Im just gonna wait here until I Feel like myself again ok themovement?  Because I dont feeel Like myself yet.  I dont think you let me go yet, just do it man"





you dont play along with crazy people , even if your being sarcastic

i did that once and someone believed i was frank iero from my chemical romance for like a whole year

definitely sounds schizophrenic

edit, i left out dont derp


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Le_Canard] * 2
    #19135326 - 11/14/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Stab him first .

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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Le_Canard]
    #19135330 - 11/14/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Are you sure it wasn't just an amphetamine induced psychosis? That shit can be crazy and then the next day you realize it was just the drugs.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Le_Canard]
    #19135340 - 11/14/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
That sounds rough. Does he have any family close-by that you can contact? Maybe they can convince him to get the help he needs....



I called his parents and they came down and talked to him, he calmed down by that time and they just left after having a chat with him, apparently they suggested the idea of him talking to someone once the semester ends.  His father believes hes BiPolar but I think its something more than that.

It wasnt amphetamine psychosis, he used to use adderal a lot to study but the only drugs he has done in the past few months is caffeine nicotine and alcohol.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19135349 - 11/14/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Had he taken anything like mushrooms. It sounds like he was loopy. It sounds like he might be schizophrenic or something if he hadn't taken a psychedelic.

Edit: He might need to get on some meds if it persists. That sounds like he is schizophrenic. It also could be something that was triggered by drugs. If he had taken a psychedelic and had a really bad trip that could have brought on a latent psychological disorder. There is someone I know who did acid too much and this happened to him. Even if he hasn't taken it in a while if you are prone to that sort of mental condition it can get worse as the months go by. He probably needs some help. I feel bad for him.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: mindgnome]
    #19135376 - 11/14/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That seems like something much more than bi-polar. Although I guess there are varying degrees of it.

He sounds schizophrenic


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: TheMovement]
    #19135393 - 11/14/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I hope you're bigger than him.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Jordank] * 1
    #19135401 - 11/14/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No way dude. You don't want to hurt him because it will only make him feel worse about himself. It sounds like he needs help. I'm not trying to be nurse ratched here because I hardly ever say someone needs to get on medication.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: mindgnome]
    #19135403 - 11/14/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Does he actually call you "TheMovement" or are you just putting that in place of your real name?

Id also lock my door at night


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Pureless] * 1
    #19135405 - 11/14/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I read the OP before I noticed his name here was The Movement.
I thought the being he created in his head was named The Movement. Tweaked me out for a bit....


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: shLong]
    #19135409 - 11/14/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Was this girl you were with someone that he liked? Or was it someone he doesn't even know. It's hard to tell I thought he was calling you the movement because of his psychosis lol. Still the way you make it sound, it seems like he needs to talk with someone before he makes a decision. I am not sure if he is schizophrenic if he was using your name but if he truly thought you were in his head he might be.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: mindgnome]
    #19135411 - 11/14/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I just put it in place of my real name.  I plan on locking my door at night, while avoiding interaction with him as much as possible.  What if next time he freaks out in the middle of the night while im sleeping..?

I'd never hurt him that would probably just make it worse.  He's my friend first and foremost
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Was this girl you were with someone that he liked? Or was it someone he doesn't even know.




Nah not someone he liked, its this chick we chill with all the time shes kind of like one of the dudes.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Pureless]
    #19135419 - 11/14/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Pureless said:
That seems like something much more than bi-polar. Although I guess there are varying degrees of it.

He sounds schizophrenic



Isn't bipolar manic-depressive? This is definitely not that.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: TheMovement]
    #19135422 - 11/14/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well how did he act? Was he just angry or was it like scary crazy?


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: mindgnome]
    #19135428 - 11/14/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Like a combination of scared and mad... He just wanted me out of his head but his body language and tone of voice were very aggressive.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19135432 - 11/14/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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NotTheDevil said:
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Pureless said:
That seems like something much more than bi-polar. Although I guess there are varying degrees of it.

He sounds schizophrenic



Isn't bipolar manic-depressive? This is definitely not that.




Yeah I was saying I doubt it's that, I know lots of people that are bi-polar and they are just so up and down its pretty sad to watch. Never aggressive.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: TheMovement]
    #19135434 - 11/14/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah dude, it definitely sounds like he wasn't all there. Had he taken psychedelics with you in the past?


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Pureless]
    #19135456 - 11/14/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Pureless said:
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NotTheDevil said:
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Pureless said:
That seems like something much more than bi-polar. Although I guess there are varying degrees of it.

He sounds schizophrenic



Isn't bipolar manic-depressive? This is definitely not that.




Yeah I was saying I doubt it's that, I know lots of people that are bi-polar and they are just so up and down its pretty sad to watch. Never aggressive.



Schizophrenia seems to fit best from my brief research, op how old is the friend?


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: mindgnome]
    #19135468 - 11/14/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not accusing you of anything but I can't help but feel like there's more to this story. I've been in a couple of relationships with people where there was an unspoken conflict. It's hard to keep track of all of the shit to when you let it build up. Some people can't keep track of it and get confused and then don't know what to think, and have to pin it down for the sake of their sanity (I feel like a psychiatrist) maybe this is whats happening? btw both of these unspoken conflicts I was talking about ended up in physical fights. and both instances it was people that we're supposed to be my friend, and in the other case family...and we ACTED like that for a long time...they were slowly driving me to my boiling point with little snood comments that they sneak into a night or me hearing about them talking shit. lol I still think I was innocent...but yeah one dude ended up getting rocked and the other would have if my friend didn't break it up.I have this theory that thhe innocent people pack harder punches...maybe it's bs idk anyway this turned into a ramble about my life sorry man...good luck with that dude. though I think even if you try to talk about it with him it might escelate into something else...but maybe not. maybe the point of no return


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: berdinwall]
    #19135479 - 11/14/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Also does dude have a history of this kind of stuff...? How long have you known him, etc.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: berdinwall]
    #19135488 - 11/14/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well if the dude had no idea why he was upset that is kind of weird.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: mindgnome]
    #19135510 - 11/14/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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NotTheDevil said:
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Pureless said:
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NotTheDevil said:
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Pureless said:
That seems like something much more than bi-polar. Although I guess there are varying degrees of it.

He sounds schizophrenic



Isn't bipolar manic-depressive? This is definitely not that.




Yeah I was saying I doubt it's that, I know lots of people that are bi-polar and they are just so up and down its pretty sad to watch. Never aggressive.



Schizophrenia seems to fit best from my brief research, op how old is the friend?



He is 20, the age where latent mental illness tend to express itself. 

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mindgnome said:
Yeah dude, it definitely sounds like he wasn't all there. Had he taken psychedelics with you in the past?




We have tripped together once over a year ago, it ended up being a bad trip for him.  He took MXE once this year also.

Ive known him going on 3 years now, lived with him the past two school years.  He was never like this before but he was always a space case.  Before this incident I was noticing schizophrenic like symptoms:  Casually bringing up reading peoples thoughts, Sitting in the chair rocking back and forth for hours on end with nothing on TV while im on my laptop listening to music, laughing out of nowhere..


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: mindgnome] * 2
    #19135516 - 11/14/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well maybe if you stopped mind controlling him and got the fuck out of his head THEMOVEMENT then he would not be freaking out at you :shrug:


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: TheMovement]
    #19135540 - 11/14/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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We have tripped together once over a year ago, it ended up being a bad trip for him.  He took MXE once this year also.

Ive known him going on 3 years now, lived with him the past two school years.  He was never like this before but he was always a space case.  Before this incident I was noticing schizophrenic like symptoms:  Casually bringing up reading peoples thoughts, Sitting in the chair rocking back and forth for hours on end with nothing on TV while im on my laptop listening to music, laughing out of nowhere..




Yeah that sounds like schizophrenia or something similar. If he gets crazy when he drinks that is probably a sign that something is wrong. The reason I brought up the psychedelic thing is that it can bring out that mental condition more. Sometimes I hear about people taking a psychedelic once and it's a wrap. Psychedelics are generally safe but if you have a latent (comes up later in life) mental condition it can show up sooner than expected and not as smoothly of a transition either. If he was worse after doing it that could have been the trigger for something else. Psychedelics do help people but there is a small group of people that it does the complete opposite.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: mindgnome]
    #19135545 - 11/14/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

MY girlfriend was down the other night and they were smoking a cig outside.  He asked her when the last time she tripped was, she told him idk its been a while... he said

" Good stay away from that stuff man it fucks with your mind"

she just told me of this conversation


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19135547 - 11/14/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like when i had my worst trip ever on acid, i never thought people were in my head, but everything that happened outside of the world was fucking with my head and keeping me from perfecting the acidified utopia i was building up in my brain.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: TheMovement]
    #19135551 - 11/14/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah dude, it sounds like something happened to him between the time he tripped and whenever he started with the odd behavior. I am not a doctor but have been around people with drug induced psychosis. You should keep a eye on him until he gets help because he might try to cut himself and shit.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #19135554 - 11/14/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sounds like when i had my worst trip ever on acid, i never thought people were in my head, but everything that happened outside of the world was fucking with my head and keeping me from perfecting the acidified utopia i was building up in my brain.



It sounds very similar to my bad acid trip as well.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Skinty] * 2
    #19135555 - 11/14/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

at least he's being honest

but dude you seem mad shadey, I mean I just know your screen name, you could be making this up right now...

so anyway you can't tell me you haven't been pressuring him at all for him to come up with that

lets say you didn't, you definitely fit the arche type of someone who did and that's what you need to realize when you make gay innuendo's about him and give off the I'm not going to take it vibe when he's sitting quietly in his room...

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    #19135575 - 11/14/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

if all you are saying is true then your friend needs to get some help. The sooner the better.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Konyap]
    #19135640 - 11/14/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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at least he's being honest

but dude you seem mad shadey, I mean I just know your screen name, you could be making this up right now...

so anyway you can't tell me you haven't been pressuring him at all for him to come up with that

lets say you didn't, you definitely fit the arche type of someone who did and that's what you need to realize when you make gay innuendo's about him and give off the I'm not going to take it vibe when he's sitting quietly in his room...

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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Konyap]
    #19135653 - 11/14/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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at least he's being honest

but dude you seem mad shadey, I mean I just know your screen name, you could be making this up right now...

so anyway you can't tell me you haven't been pressuring him at all for him to come up with that

lets say you didn't, you definitely fit the arche type of someone who did and that's what you need to realize when you make gay innuendo's about him and give off the I'm not going to take it vibe when he's sitting quietly in his room...

as long as he isn't racist or anything crazy you're probably fine





I seem mad shady? WTF is this shit right here? I broke down to him once a few weeks ago telling him I was worried for him and stuff.  Ive been doing the best I can to let him know that these thoughts are all in his head, i think thats why he associates me with being the one in control of his mind or whatever, because ive been talking to him about his thoughts..


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: TheMovement]
    #19135677 - 11/14/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Is he going to class? And doing school?

If no just call his parents or better yet one of siblings and tell em he's freaking the fuck out. As some one who has spent quite a bit of time around "crazy" people, him having a fixation on you like that is not good. If he truly believes you're trying to hurt him he will lash out eventually. I don't know if you care but you're asking for trouble, assuming he continues on with associating his distress directly with you


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    #19135697 - 11/14/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Is he going to class? And doing school?

If no just call his parents or better yet one of siblings and tell em he's freaking the fuck out. As some one who has spent quite a bit of time around "crazy" people, him having a fixation on you like that is not good. If he truly believes you're trying to hurt him he will lash out eventually. I don't know if you care but you're asking for trouble, assuming he continues on with associating his distress directly with you



He goes to class but I dont think he retains anything.  He'll spend his day at the library and when he comes back I ask if he got any work done and its always " not really"


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    #19135714 - 11/14/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Is he going to class? And doing school?

If no just call his parents or better yet one of siblings and tell em he's freaking the fuck out. As some one who has spent quite a bit of time around "crazy" people, him having a fixation on you like that is not good. If he truly believes you're trying to hurt him he will lash out eventually. I don't know if you care but you're asking for trouble, assuming he continues on with associating his distress directly with you



He goes to class but I dont think he retains anything.  He'll spend his day at the library and when he comes back I ask if he got any work done and its always " not really"




I would call one of his siblings if you can and tell them. I mean you could just call the police when he is having an episode and it sounds like they would be forced to remove him if he truly believes what he's telling you. But that doesn't sound like what you want, and there is a high possibility he will come back no different than when he left. You're in a tough spot but people like that are not to be underestimated, even the most timid person can do terrible things if they feel like they're in a corner.

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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: TheMovement]
    #19135774 - 11/14/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

sounds like he needs some space from you op. it may be true what you said about you trying to help him and him being convinced you were just trying to get in his head. maybe it would be best to leave him be and not ask him anymore questions about his well being, or of anything for that matter..

he might realize later on that it was all in his head. let him feel normal for a change, even if he may not seem like it.

i actually knew a dude who acted the exact same way, mostly only when he drank or smoked weed. he never accused me of anything but he did laugh at random moments for no particular reason and when he talked it was mostly jibberish, just out of touch. anyway this guy is currently in prison for 2 years for attacking his dad and leaving him blind from one eye.. seems like he had some issues with his dad though and he just couldn't take it anymore. he was never violent but something in him just snapped. yea man, i'd definitely lay low for a while and not ask him a anything about his mentality.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: zZZz]
    #19135851 - 11/14/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

All of you amateur psychologists trying to diagnose this kid is funny.

He just sounds a little stressed out, probably having a panic attack and got really confused. Maybe under a lot of pressure? Maybe someone has been fucking with him and doesn't want to admit it? You should be supporting him and trying to help/heal him rather than making fun. It can be disturbing to witness someone having a breakdown, but imagine if it was you, and you were ultra-confused and someone was just making it worse by shunning or being you feel uncomfortable. Try to be nice to him, take some time to talk to him like a real person next time. Pretend it's you best friend.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: zZZz]
    #19135857 - 11/14/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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sounds like he needs some space from you op. it may be true what you said about you trying to help him and him being convinced you were just trying to get in his head. maybe it would be best to leave him be and not ask him anymore questions about his well being, or of anything for that matter..

he might realize later on that it was all in his head. let him feel normal for a change, even if he may not seem like it.

i actually knew a dude who acted the exact same way, mostly only when he drank or smoked weed. he never accused me of anything but he did laugh at random moments for no particular reason and when he talked it was mostly jibberish, just out of touch. anyway this guy is currently in prison for 2 years for attacking his dad and leaving him blind from one eye.. seems like he had some issues with his dad though and he just couldn't take it anymore. he was never violent but something in him just snapped. yea man, i'd definitely lay low for a while and not ask him a anything about his mentality.




Im gonna minimize communication with him as much as possible.  I think this is the best advice thus far, thanks.

I was trying to understand his thoughts without making him feel 'crazy' , guess I didnt do too good of a job.

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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Moorning Due]
    #19135860 - 11/14/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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All of you amateur psychologists trying to diagnose this kid is funny.

He just sounds a little stressed out, probably having a panic attack and got really confused. Maybe under a lot of pressure? Maybe someone has been fucking with him and doesn't want to admit it? You should be supporting him and trying to help/heal him rather than making fun. It can be disturbing to witness someone having a breakdown, but imagine if it was you, and you were ultra-confused and someone was just making it worse by shunning or being you feel uncomfortable. Try to be nice to him, take some time to talk to him like a real person next time. Pretend it's you best friend.



I've been trying to support him as best I can.  Im not cut out for this man, im just a 20 yr old college student


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: TheMovement]
    #19135879 - 11/14/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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    #19135881 - 11/14/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

sounds to me like he needed some attention, you were hangin with a girl so he probably was feeling it a lil too much at the moment...telling you to 'get out of his head' in a way you could take that as a compliment i think he likes you lol

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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Moorning Due]
    #19135894 - 11/14/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well I have had panic attacks and never said get out of my head. It was something I overcame without the help of medication. If he truly thinks people are reading his thoughts that is not good. You can be demeaning to the people trying to provide support to him by saying they are "amateur psychologists" but have you ever been around someone who became schizophrenic because of drugs? I have. I was simply saying that maybe he tripped and went way further than a normal person would.

edit: not to sound conceited but you don't want to ignore it and just say he needs space. He should probably get a checkup because schizophrenia can wear down a person.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: mindgnome]
    #19135922 - 11/14/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

who knows maybe he's crazy and schizophrenic...


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    #19135932 - 11/14/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

just remember guys, it's never easy to be the odd man out...and sometimes the last thing a person needs is to be diagnosed


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: g00ru]
    #19135949 - 11/14/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yea I mean if he was on adderal there's a chance his brain never grew in the right area's on top of his definite schizophrenia

just be like" I can't be around you if you do drugs and can't control yourself around me... don't interact with me and I won't interact with you"

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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: g00ru]
    #19135950 - 11/14/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

that is true... It could just be anxiety but if it is a mental thing, it isn't always a good idea for the person to just ignore it especially if it is something serious. I have been the odd man out before and it sucks but the key is to make the person realize that they are with people that understand. I know how it feels. Maybe not to the extent exactly but it does suck, you are right.


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Jordank]
    #19136215 - 11/14/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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All of you amateur psychologists trying to diagnose this kid is funny.

He just sounds a little stressed out, probably having a panic attack and got really confused. Maybe under a lot of pressure? Maybe someone has been fucking with him and doesn't want to admit it? You should be supporting him and trying to help/heal him rather than making fun. It can be disturbing to witness someone having a breakdown, but imagine if it was you, and you were ultra-confused and someone was just making it worse by shunning or being you feel uncomfortable. Try to be nice to him, take some time to talk to him like a real person next time. Pretend it's you best friend.







1- Making fun? I don't know where you get this idea. I don't think OP was making fun of him at any point?



2- Amateur psychologists are funny?  Probably just stressed out and having a panic attack? :rofl2:  Now that's truly funny.


Let me explain something to you... I've had panic attacks. They can be horrible, and terrifying. They are also nothing like OP describes. I'm also prone to severe depression and anxiety, and I experience nothing like what is described. And yes, i realize people are different. But out of the many people I've known afflicted by anxiety, depression, or panic attacks (and there have been many... I've done a couple tours of different psych wards, I've been in "out-patient" programs, I've lived in a half-way house for crazy people, and I have studied psychology as an amateur) not a single one of them have ever shown symptoms like this.


On the other hand, aside from all the credentials and qualifiers above, I: 


A- Have personally experienced stimulant induced psychosis. Several times. For a grand total of at least a good 6 months of psychosis experience under my belt.

B- Have dated a girl (for several years) who was diagnosed with a schizotypal disorder.

C- Have a cousin I was very close to, diagnosed with a schizotypal disorder

D- Have had friends, both IRL and online diagnosed with a schizotypal disorder

E- As mentioned above, lived in a halfway house for several years, with several people diagnosed with (can you guess?) a schizotypal disorder



And I assure you-- this guy is showing some of the classical signs and symptoms of such a disorder. Everyone who guessed "schizophrenia" either made a really good guess, or knows what they're talking about.


Halluninations, most commonly auditory. But not only that... often very specific psychotic beliefs... namely that other people are reading your thoughts, or are projecting thoughts into your mind, or are controlling your thoughts or behavior in some manner. Sometimes it's not another person, it's the television, or the radio that's doing it. Sometimes the government. But the whole "thought control" and "get out of my goddamned head" things are super common themes in paranoid schizophrenia, and similar disorders.



Stimulants? Those can definitely cause psychosis. But for me (and many others I've talked to) that was always more like the feeling of being spied on, and yes, sometimes hearing people talking about you, when no one is even there (which contributes to the feeling of being spied on). But  much more rarely have I heard "they're inside my head" from stimulant psychosis. (Though I have, in a few cases. But who's to say those aren't latent schizophrenics?)


Likewise for psychedelics. They can sometimes cause psychotic type symptoms. But the more common belief is that when tripping seems to trigger a reaction like that in the OP, the person does (or "did") have some dormant form of schizophrenia.





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I hope you're bigger than him.


CHOKE EM OUT if he gets smart with you






Brilliant. Choke someone out because they're sick. The compassion coming from you is epic.



Some of the responses here really are ridiculous, and show complete lack of understanding.




OP:  As has been stated, playing along with his delusion may have been a mistake. There may now be nothing you can do, to convince him that what he believes is not real / true. Hard to say, though. That might depend on the nature / closeness of your relationship, and the severity / type of his delusion.


Keeping your distance, as you suggested, is probably a good idea. Highly delusional people can sometimes resort to violence, if their delusions torment them enough. Trying to speak to the family again, and explaining that this is definitely not just some depression or anxiety, might be a good idea.


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    #19136264 - 11/14/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

He sounds like a smart person just not personable. People do get inside each others heads everyday. Sounds like he might of had a hard time understanding the way people interact. The adderall during adolescents probably closed him off and put him on a different level to early. Now he's wishing he could mesh with others better. It's going to take a lifetime for him I betcha.


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    #19136288 - 11/14/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

sorry about your friend op that is crazy I remember you made another thread about him
I don't expect this to work but some times all someone needs is a hug can be simple as that
am against medication but some people really do need it just make sure they don't give him Adderall I used to take it how it said on the bottle along time ago and ended up having really bad side effects that stuff is bad


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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: Yage]
    #19136301 - 11/14/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have to agree with Cidney.

I have been working with people with all sorts of mental disorders for the past 5 years and that is def not some anxiety attack.

Try and get in touch with family or even a school counselor. Keep your guard up, people who have lost their rationale can behave extremely erratic.


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    #19136452 - 11/14/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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All of you amateur psychologists trying to diagnose this kid is funny.

He just sounds a little stressed out, probably having a panic attack and got really confused. Maybe under a lot of pressure? Maybe someone has been fucking with him and doesn't want to admit it? You should be supporting him and trying to help/heal him rather than making fun. It can be disturbing to witness someone having a breakdown, but imagine if it was you, and you were ultra-confused and someone was just making it worse by shunning or being you feel uncomfortable. Try to be nice to him, take some time to talk to him like a real person next time. Pretend it's you best friend.







1- Making fun? I don't know where you get this idea. I don't think OP was making fun of him at any point?



2- Amateur psychologists are funny?  Probably just stressed out and having a panic attack? :rofl2:  Now that's truly funny.


Let me explain something to you... I've had panic attacks. They can be horrible, and terrifying. They are also nothing like OP describes. I'm also prone to severe depression and anxiety, and I experience nothing like what is described. And yes, i realize people are different. But out of the many people I've known afflicted by anxiety, depression, or panic attacks (and there have been many... I've done a couple tours of different psych wards, I've been in "out-patient" programs, I've lived in a half-way house for crazy people, and I have studied psychology as an amateur) not a single one of them have ever shown symptoms like this.


On the other hand, aside from all the credentials and qualifiers above, I: 


A- Have personally experienced stimulant induced psychosis. Several times. For a grand total of at least a good 6 months of psychosis experience under my belt.

B- Have dated a girl (for several years) who was diagnosed with a schizotypal disorder.

C- Have a cousin I was very close to, diagnosed with a schizotypal disorder

D- Have had friends, both IRL and online diagnosed with a schizotypal disorder

E- As mentioned above, lived in a halfway house for several years, with several people diagnosed with (can you guess?) a schizotypal disorder



And I assure you-- this guy is showing some of the classical signs and symptoms of such a disorder. Everyone who guessed "schizophrenia" either made a really good guess, or knows what they're talking about.


Halluninations, most commonly auditory. But not only that... often very specific psychotic beliefs... namely that other people are reading your thoughts, or are projecting thoughts into your mind, or are controlling your thoughts or behavior in some manner. Sometimes it's not another person, it's the television, or the radio that's doing it. Sometimes the government. But the whole "thought control" and "get out of my goddamned head" things are super common themes in paranoid schizophrenia, and similar disorders.



Stimulants? Those can definitely cause psychosis. But for me (and many others I've talked to) that was always more like the feeling of being spied on, and yes, sometimes hearing people talking about you, when no one is even there (which contributes to the feeling of being spied on). But  much more rarely have I heard "they're inside my head" from stimulant psychosis. (Though I have, in a few cases. But who's to say those aren't latent schizophrenics?)


Likewise for psychedelics. They can sometimes cause psychotic type symptoms. But the more common belief is that when tripping seems to trigger a reaction like that in the OP, the person does (or "did") have some dormant form of schizophrenia.





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I hope you're bigger than him.


CHOKE EM OUT if he gets smart with you






Brilliant. Choke someone out because they're sick. The compassion coming from you is epic.



Some of the responses here really are ridiculous, and show complete lack of understanding.




OP:  As has been stated, playing along with his delusion may have been a mistake. There may now be nothing you can do, to convince him that what he believes is not real / true. Hard to say, though. That might depend on the nature / closeness of your relationship, and the severity / type of his delusion.


Keeping your distance, as you suggested, is probably a good idea. Highly delusional people can sometimes resort to violence, if their delusions torment them enough. Trying to speak to the family again, and explaining that this is definitely not just some depression or anxiety, might be a good idea.


You guys go to the same school? Is your housing through the school? Maybe there's someone at the school you can talk to about this. Good luck.





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    #19138364 - 11/14/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Roommate had a psychotic breakdown last night.. [Re: unknown1123]
    #19141189 - 11/15/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So the parents think its Bipolar Disorder because they have a family history of it.  They are very worried but they want him to finish the semester because theres only a few weeks left.  They also mentioned that they are going to get him to talk to someone, so there is no point in speculating and being a pseudo-psychiatrist when they are going to send him to a professional once the term ends.

I guess they also talked about the possibility of him taking the next semester off, which I figured would end up happening anyways.  I havn't talked to my roommate since, went to my girlfriends for the weekend after class on thursday, but our other roommate assures me that he is very sorry and I expect he will be apologizing when I see him Monday. 

He is a good kid and has been my best friend at school for the past 3 semesters so I hate to see him like this.  Im Just glad his parents are taking this seriously and he is going to get the help he needs.  I hope they find a way to bring him back to base and that this experience does not traumatize him too much.

:peace:


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