|
eve69
--=..Did Adam and ...?=--



Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 3,910
Loc: isle de la muerte
Last seen: 1 month, 18 days
|
Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it.
#19134945 - 11/14/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Like the grumbling stomach, when it's full it is quiet and happy. Those grumbling proselytizing people who charge around shouting everybody down, browbeating them with their faith, it doesn't matter what faith, such people are miserable and their faith hasn't worked for them.
A person who loves tucks that beloved thing away deep down and shelters their love from prying eyes.
I suggest that kissing and telling about ones faith means one is a shallow dipshit.
-------------------- ...or something
|
Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery



Registered: 03/15/05
Posts: 95,368
Loc: underbelly
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: eve69]
#19134971 - 11/14/13 07:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Well I often suspect this too. I know that's how it has always worked when I do it. 
We are all, all, all, bullshit artists imo. This includes you. But you already know this.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
|
White Beard

Registered: 08/13/11
Posts: 6,325
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: Icelander]
#19134987 - 11/14/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
|
absols
Stranger
Registered: 11/10/13
Posts: 986
Last seen: 9 years, 6 months
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: eve69]
#19135015 - 11/14/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
you don't know the truth of it that is why
in true existence, what is more free watching everything else, move negatively while what is less free being through everything else existence recognitions, moves positively
the reason is what the more free as it is able to see everyone should move through destroying wrong ones that it sees, while at the same time by walking negatively it wont alter the fact of reality existence rights in positive values, from the gap it is able to create out of its superior energy as positive source
that is why, the ones that mean talking in the name of powerful entity such as god.. would clearly show how their ways unconsciously is by putting everyone else down while meaning to be nice... but they cant address others positively when their means is to suggest knowing better the fact of everything
this apply too on everyone who knows more something, while it would look more in truth, like willing to enter a fight to defend things rights demonstrating how negative ways are always to defend the positive value of everything, as being freedom superiority so the infinite always positive fact ...
Edited by absols (11/14/13 08:03 AM)
|
stellarshnap
Poet who doesn't know it


Registered: 05/24/12
Posts: 646
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: absols]
#19135025 - 11/14/13 07:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
It might also be the primary excitement of what you think you have stumbled upon. When I first discovered my "faith" if you will, a box of love in the meadow of my mind, it was quite difficult, and still is quite difficult to keep the lid on the box, as I want to share it with people. But looking at history and what we've done to the unconditionally loving people that have come into this world, perhaps I should try a little harder to keep the lid on.
-------------------- Careful, though your mind may be over matter, matter is all we really know. "Or is it?" The problem with intelligence is that it fosters arrogance, and arrogance suffocates intelligence. True intelligence however, bites holes in the bag.
|
eve69
--=..Did Adam and ...?=--



Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 3,910
Loc: isle de la muerte
Last seen: 1 month, 18 days
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: stellarshnap]
#19135044 - 11/14/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
the cliche is that those who know don't talk and those who talk don't know
as Absols said I believe that those who talk are unconsciously looking to be filled rather than to fill others.
-------------------- ...or something
|
Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery



Registered: 03/15/05
Posts: 95,368
Loc: underbelly
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: eve69]
#19135053 - 11/14/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
 fill it up baby
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
|
absols
Stranger
Registered: 11/10/13
Posts: 986
Last seen: 9 years, 6 months
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: stellarshnap]
#19135059 - 11/14/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
your love is you the subject so it cant be shared with others, but it is all to existence being a positive fact certainly, that you should realize objectively for truth rights in being honest constantly
|
stellarshnap
Poet who doesn't know it


Registered: 05/24/12
Posts: 646
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: absols]
#19135404 - 11/14/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I'm trying real hard to live by the quote "being your faith is more powerful than preaching it". It's coming but it's coming slow.
-------------------- Careful, though your mind may be over matter, matter is all we really know. "Or is it?" The problem with intelligence is that it fosters arrogance, and arrogance suffocates intelligence. True intelligence however, bites holes in the bag.
|
NastyDHL



Registered: 04/04/08
Posts: 3,586
Loc: New England
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: eve69]
#19151152 - 11/17/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
"There are only two things. Truth and lies. Truth is indivisible, hence it cannot recognize itself; anyone who wants to recognize it has to be a lie." -Franz Kafka
|
eve69
--=..Did Adam and ...?=--



Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 3,910
Loc: isle de la muerte
Last seen: 1 month, 18 days
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: NastyDHL]
#19151237 - 11/17/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
thought provoking quote
does that mean we can only know truth through our lies? speaks loads about governments
....on that note Yevgeny Yevtushenko once said the difference between the media in Russia and America is in Russia they know all their media is a lie, and here we think all our media is truth....
-------------------- ...or something
|
Kickle
Wanderer


Registered: 12/16/06
Posts: 17,891
Last seen: 7 hours, 23 minutes
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: eve69]
#19152306 - 11/17/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
eve69 said: Like the grumbling stomach, when it's full it is quiet and happy. Those grumbling proselytizing people who charge around shouting everybody down, browbeating them with their faith, it doesn't matter what faith, such people are miserable and their faith hasn't worked for them.
A person who loves tucks that beloved thing away deep down and shelters their love from prying eyes.
I suggest that kissing and telling about ones faith means one is a shallow dipshit.

I agree that how someone speaks about their beliefs says a lot about their relationship with said beliefs. But I do not think one needs to hide their love.
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
|
NastyDHL



Registered: 04/04/08
Posts: 3,586
Loc: New England
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: eve69]
#19153041 - 11/18/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
To me it means that we can only be truth, so seeking it is being a lie. Therefore, telling others how to seek it by preaching is spreading lies.
It also reminds me of the Gurdjieff quote, "Objective knowledge, the idea of unity included, belongs to objective consciousness. The forms which express this knowledge when perceived by subjective consciousness are inevitably distorted and, instead of truth, they create more and more delusions."
|
GreySatyr
Pagan-Psyche


Registered: 06/20/13
Posts: 3,376
Loc: North Carolina
Last seen: 9 years, 9 months
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: NastyDHL]
#19153080 - 11/18/13 07:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
NastyDHL said: "There are only two things. Truth and lies. Truth is indivisible, hence it cannot recognize itself; anyone who wants to recognize it has to be a lie." -Franz Kafka
Bad ass quote.
I don't believe OP. things like this aren't that general. Some people are happy with their faith and preach it, some faiths are taught to preach their faith such as Christians but more so Jehovah's Witness whose soul depends on their works or conversion rate. Anywho, I'm a pagan pantheist and rarely do you rarely hear pagans preaching their faith.
-------------------- ...also, go to hell, huh?
|
eve69
--=..Did Adam and ...?=--



Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 3,910
Loc: isle de la muerte
Last seen: 1 month, 18 days
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: GreySatyr]
#19153190 - 11/18/13 08:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I don't believe that some people are happy with their faith. I think that's an utter travesty. Is the mule happy with the yoke? Religion teaches you to not do the things you ordinarily would give not thought to. Religious teachings are about discipline and hardship endurance.
What happens is people want more than to be just disciplined. They want acknowledgement, prowess, fame, respect, acceptance. They preach not because they found happiness in their religion but because they are totally full of shit. They haven't found what they really need.
-------------------- ...or something
|
stellarshnap
Poet who doesn't know it


Registered: 05/24/12
Posts: 646
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: eve69]
#19154332 - 11/18/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
What if your faith is the understanding that all you know is you know nothing, in combintion with completely unconditional love? I'm quite content with my faith, or philosophy I suppose is more appropriate.
-------------------- Careful, though your mind may be over matter, matter is all we really know. "Or is it?" The problem with intelligence is that it fosters arrogance, and arrogance suffocates intelligence. True intelligence however, bites holes in the bag.
|
eve69
--=..Did Adam and ...?=--



Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 3,910
Loc: isle de la muerte
Last seen: 1 month, 18 days
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: stellarshnap]
#19154455 - 11/18/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
no such thing as unconditional love except for parents
-------------------- ...or something
|
stellarshnap
Poet who doesn't know it


Registered: 05/24/12
Posts: 646
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: eve69]
#19155166 - 11/18/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I don't mean for people necessarily
-------------------- Careful, though your mind may be over matter, matter is all we really know. "Or is it?" The problem with intelligence is that it fosters arrogance, and arrogance suffocates intelligence. True intelligence however, bites holes in the bag.
|
eve69
--=..Did Adam and ...?=--



Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 3,910
Loc: isle de la muerte
Last seen: 1 month, 18 days
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: stellarshnap]
#19155179 - 11/18/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
word
-------------------- ...or something
|
all this beauty
Stranger
Registered: 02/13/13
Posts: 779
Last seen: 10 years, 1 month
|
Re: Preaching ones faith shows dissatisfaction with it. [Re: eve69]
#19155260 - 11/18/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
eve69 said:
You are here, posting in an internet forum entitled "Spirituality & Mysticism." You very much want to "tell about your faith" -- "faith" understood broadly to include your innermost insights.
Are you a "shallow dipshit," eve?
|
|