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Psilocyanescens
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ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens
#19134095 - 11/14/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello Shroomery, first post from me. I've been lurking on and off for a while and now I need the community's ID skills. I have been hunting P. Cyanescens for two years and I came across some mushrooms today that might or might not be P. Cyans. (ignore the pixelation from ObscuraCam - apparently it detected a couple of faces )
Habitat: Found in wood chips in a residential garden in the Puget Sound area of Washington State (near sea level).
Gills: Dark brownish gray, close, gills similar to P. Cyanescens but more gray.
Stem: Length: 3.5cm; diameter: 0.5cm; whitish brown; hollow; thicker than P. Cyanescens; slight membranous annulus
Cap: Diameter: 4cm; brown; wavy; hygrophanous - fading to dark yellowish brown
Spore print color: Purple
Bruising: Possible slight dark bruising around cap margins and annulus, but that could just be wishful thinking.
Other information: Found around 4 clusters about the size of softballs. The other clusters were rotting. When I tried to pick one mushroom, the whole cluster came up accidentally. I found P. Cyanescens 30 yards from this cluster (same garden).
The differences between these and the P. Cyanescens are: The pictured mushrooms were in a big cluster, don't bruise (as easily?), gills are more gray, stem is wider and hollow and have more of a membranous annulus . Other than that, they are the same.
I appreciate any help in identifying these.
Edited by Psilocyanescens (11/14/13 12:09 AM)
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Coen
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: Psilocyanescens]
#19134238 - 11/14/13 12:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If it weren't for the annulus, I would guess just weird-looking P. cyanescens. Maybe they're P. ovoideocystidiata? Cool find.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: Coen]
#19134255 - 11/14/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Probably Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata
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lemonjello
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Interesting find. Why are some of the pictures censored? Lol, were the mushrooms exposing themselves?
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: lemonjello]
#19134652 - 11/14/13 03:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dang, that's quite a cluster.
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: lemonjello]
#19134901 - 11/14/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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lemonjello said: Interesting find. Why are some of the pictures censored? Lol, were the mushrooms exposing themselves?
yeah lol. I was wondering the same thing. I agree they are not cyans due to the stipe, but yeah probably ovoids.
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: jet li]
#19135074 - 11/14/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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They are surely some healthy looking ovoids....never seen them clustered like that or with such a thick stipe. Did they bruise...op?...not seeing any in pics.
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Edited by Thayendanegea (11/14/13 08:07 AM)
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jet li
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: Thayendanegea]
#19135114 - 11/14/13 08:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually my thoughts are very meaty P. stuntzii at this point in the analysis.
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: jet li]
#19135122 - 11/14/13 08:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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jet li said: Actually my thoughts are very meaty P. stuntzii at this point in the analysis.
I think you are right.
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Psilocyanescens
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I know P. Stunzii are active and safe to eat, but what about P. ovoideocystidiata? I'm assuming since it hasn't been 100% confirmed, I shouldn't consume them. Is this right?
EDIT: After sitting out for a day I could notice some blue bruising in the annular zone and along the edges of the cap.
Some pictures are censored because I took them using an app called ObscuraCam which deletes EXIF data and blurs any detected faces. I guess the cluster had a couple of faces in it
Edited by Psilocyanescens (11/14/13 01:25 PM)
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: Psilocyanescens]
#19136178 - 11/14/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you want to try them, I would say stay on the safe side and eat a dose appropriate for ovoids (about the same as cyans) first because if they are ovoids and you eat them like they are stuntzii you will be in for quite the ride.
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: Psilocyanescens]
#19136182 - 11/14/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ovoids are good too my friend....it appears as if you are good to go!
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Psilocyanescens
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: Thayendanegea]
#19136197 - 11/14/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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After sitting out for a day I could notice some blue bruising in the annular zone and along the edges of the cap. That makes me feel better about trying them out.
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: Psilocyanescens]
#19136205 - 11/14/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Between the appearance of the confirmation of spore print, they were already identified to safety, and very likely to an active Pslocybe. The blue bruising was much expected.
KC's advice was good advice.
Also; Lol at the face [mis]detection. That's both cool and funny. I guess humans aren't the only algorithms who see faces where the are not
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Psilocyanescens
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: canid]
#19136224 - 11/14/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the feedback and advice. This community is great. I really should lurk less and participate more.
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: Psilocyanescens]
#19136905 - 11/14/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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whats up with the blurred out spots on the first picture? very cool find btw i am very inspired lol
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: Psilocyanescens]
#19136910 - 11/14/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
nexxone said: whats up with the blurred out spots on the first picture? very cool find btw i am very inspired lol
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Psilocyanescens said: Some pictures are censored because I took them using an app called ObscuraCam which deletes EXIF data and blurs any detected faces. I guess the cluster had a couple of faces in it 
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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it. If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.
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Re: ID request - look similar to P. Cyanescens [Re: canid]
#19137026 - 11/14/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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ahh sorry i just had skimmed thru this briefly ill start reading whole threads before i post questions to avoid more clutter in the future
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