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Mush4Brains
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Re: Looks like Obama is trying to up the minimum wage to $10 an hour [Re: starfire_xes]
#19134004 - 11/13/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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and all you have left are jobs that pay shit
thats just plain wrong maybe thats all you have exposure to (not meant to be an insult, literally meaning maybe your not aware of them), but there are loads of high paying jobs in this country. There are actually many industries that have a shortage of workers, mainly vocational positions. I had a friend that went to linemen's instead of college and now he makes roughly 90 grand a year. So thats bullshit people are just too stupid to actually pursue a career with a worthwhile ROI. I've never worked a minimum wage job in my life, i never had to. Even when i was 15 i was making $10 per hour working for myself. It all comes down to motivation and drive.
For people with no education/training, it isn't as false as you claim it is. Most of these industries you're talking about require people with some sort of post secondary education. Something that is out of reach for some people that are dropping out or being graduated from HS with absolutely no people skills, or technical skills.
You think a young kid from the hood wouldn't want to be making $90k/yr?
And congrats on making $10/hr at 15. I was making almost double that at 13 because I've always been a huge fan of money. Once again, maybe you should explain to a kid with nothing but a welfare leech mother who thinks it is the school's job to raise them that they can succeed on their own, in something other than slanging bags on the corner.
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starfire_xes said: So are you saying that the american educational system has been a failure? I agree with you on that point.
Yes. Some people will blame it on unions, others will blame it on standardized testing, some people will blame it on zero-tolerance... I can't give an exact reason why the public education system is failing so many of our youths so much, but I'm sure it has something to do with all of that plus many more factors.
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starfire_xes
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Re: Looks like Obama is trying to up the minimum wage to $10 an hour [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19134010 - 11/13/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i agree. that's once in a row.
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psyconaught
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Re: Looks like Obama is trying to up the minimum wage to $10 an hour [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19134031 - 11/13/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe you should explain to a kid with nothing but a welfare leech mother who thinks it is the school's job to raise them that they can succeed on their own, in something other than slanging bags on the corner.
what the fuck kind of logic is this? The child grows up incopotent because his mother is a welfare leach therefore your answer is to turn the kid into a welfare leach? I would gladly explain to him that if he wants something better for himself he needs to fucking work for it. there are plenty of people who have escaped poverty. Myself being one of them, my family was poor growing up, raised by a single father who was on welfare for the latter part of my child hood. So don't act like i'm some privileged ass hole. I had no resources and built what i have for myself.
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Re: Looks like Obama is trying to up the minimum wage to $10 an hour [Re: psyconaught]
#19134040 - 11/13/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe you should explain to a kid with nothing but a welfare leech mother who thinks it is the school's job to raise them that they can succeed on their own, in something other than slanging bags on the corner.
what the fuck kind of logic is this? The child grows up incopotent because his mother is a welfare leach therefore your answer is to turn the kid into a welfare leach? I would gladly explain to him that if he wants something better for himself he needs to fucking work for it. there are plenty of people who have escaped poverty. Myself being one of them, my family was poor growing up, raised by a single father who was on welfare for the latter part of my child hood. So don't act like i'm some privileged ass hole. I had no resources and built what i have for myself.
what are you replying o me for i didnt write that....
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Re: Looks like Obama is trying to up the minimum wage to $10 an hour [Re: starfire_xes]
#19134049 - 11/13/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe you should explain to a kid with nothing but a welfare leech mother who thinks it is the school's job to raise them that they can succeed on their own, in something other than slanging bags on the corner.
what the fuck kind of logic is this? The child grows up incopotent because his mother is a welfare leach therefore your answer is to turn the kid into a welfare leach? I would gladly explain to him that if he wants something better for himself he needs to fucking work for it. there are plenty of people who have escaped poverty. Myself being one of them, my family was poor growing up, raised by a single father who was on welfare for the latter part of my child hood. So don't act like i'm some privileged ass hole. I had no resources and built what i have for myself.
what are you replying o me for i didnt write that....
fixed it. i forget about the reply drop down sometimes
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Re: Looks like Obama is trying to up the minimum wage to $10 an hour [Re: psyconaught]
#19135746 - 11/14/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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psyconaught said: i can post links to support my view also http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/negative-effects-minimum-wage-laws
your better off actually explaining your position with sources to back it up. posting links/youtube videos without elaboration shows laziness.
Cato Institute 
The Koch's very own mouthpiece for advocating economic sabotage.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com
an ad hominem i believe.
Do you have a valid argument against their position?
He clearly has mush for brains
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Re: Looks like Obama is trying to up the minimum wage to $10 an hour [Re: starfire_xes]
#19136741 - 11/14/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: So are you saying that the american educational system has been a failure? I agree with you on that point.
He's a product of it.
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