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Coen
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Gymnopilus junonius/spectabilis?
#19133583 - 11/13/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey Shroomerites. I think this is something in the Gymnopilus spectabilis group (if it is a group). Measurements are from a single relatively young and small specimen that I took home.
Can someone clarify the G. spectabilis vs. junonius thing? Is the former a grouping and the latter a species? Also, is this active? Will macroscopic features allow me to distinguish it from G. ventricosus or similar?
Habitat: growing from a stump (Douglas fir, black cottonwood, ...?) in a forest trail of a city park.
Gills: yellowish light brown, adnate, somewhat uneven (crenate?).
Stem: 8cm long, 13mm wide at apex, 2cm wide at bulge, yellowish light brown with darker brown patches, fibrous, solid but with a small cavity in the bulge, fibrillose partial veil leaving a variably persistent annulus, tapering at base.
Cap: 4cm wide (and wider), yellowish light brown, fibrillose, convex.
Spore print color: still faint but it's definitely some type of brown.
Bruising: none I can detect.
Other information: growing in clusters of 5-10 fruits; very strong scent: mushroomy but also chemical-like; doesn't taste particularly bitter, but I like bitter things and am maybe not sensitive to that taste 
Oh, and this is like the most perfect Stropharia ambigua I've ever seen. Just thought I'd share.
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Gravija
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Re: Gymnopilus junonius/spectabilis? [Re: Coen]
#19133587 - 11/13/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's Gymnopilus ventricosus. Excellent description.
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Coen
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Re: Gymnopilus junonius/spectabilis? [Re: Gravija]
#19133599 - 11/13/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks Gravija.
So G. ventricosus is not active, right?
What tells you that it's not G. junonius?
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Re: Gymnopilus junonius/spectabilis? [Re: Coen]
#19133606 - 11/13/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some people have tripped from eating Gymnopilus ventricosus, but perhaps not from psilocybin.
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Gravija
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Re: Gymnopilus junonius/spectabilis? [Re: Gravija]
#19133611 - 11/13/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Will macroscopic features allow me to distinguish it from G. ventricosus or similar?
Yes. G. ventricosus is larger than similar species, the stipe tends to be more clavate, the pileus is typically covered in whitish, appressed fibrils that linger on the pileus margin into maturity and it occurs on conifer. I'm not sure I've seen any Gymnopilus from this group west of the Rockies besides ventricosus and viridans.
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Re: Gymnopilus junonius/spectabilis? [Re: Gravija]
#19133625 - 11/13/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Occasionally we get ventricosus on hardwood on the west coast. Quercus in Santa Cruz...
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Gravija
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I'd love to get some specimens of ventricosus from hardwood, if you see it again. Actually, I'd like part of this collection. Would you be willing to send me some, Coen?
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Coen
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I'm not disputing the G. ventricosus ID, given the clavate stipe and fibrils on the margin. But note that I changed the ID of the tree. It's an old stump, so it's hard to tell. But just going by the bark texture shown in the last pic, it looks more like cottonwood than D. fir to me. So maybe it is growing from a deciduous hardwood ... Any tree identification experts?
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Re: Gymnopilus junonius/spectabilis? [Re: Gravija]
#19133691 - 11/13/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sure. I'll get more and send you some. What would that involve? Just drying it and mailing it somewhere? Let me know.
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Re: Gymnopilus junonius/spectabilis? [Re: Gravija]
#19133722 - 11/13/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gravija said: I'd love to get some specimens of ventricosus from hardwood
Ask Christian if he saved any.
Conifer decays differently than hardwood - When it gets old conifer breaks up into rectangular chunks and hardwood tends to splinter and is lighter in color.
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