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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: wrestler_az]
    #19133666 - 11/13/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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then maybe you shouldnt be eating psychedelics.




Lol this ignorance is insane. I handle psychedelics fine. Anyone who's been through the drill enough times knows that sometimes shit just goes off the deep end. If you think you're immune to that then have fun, but i suggest taking some humility if you're going to be diving deep. It's not always pretty colors


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19133674 - 11/13/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

look, im just saying those tough to handle trips are going to happen when fucking around with psychedelics. and the user needs tro be prepared for that, not afraid of it. dont pussy foot around with a gram or 2. 3 grams minimum for a first time. if you arent willing for the full experience, dont even bother.


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19133678 - 11/13/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

if I have a bad trip I just end up siting down and not saying doing much it doesn't really make me freak out or anything a bit on the inside but you cant really tell
any way that's just me


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: watermelon mon]
    #19133687 - 11/13/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What if he ate 1.6 then ate more throughout the night depending on how he felt?


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: Rachelbre]
    #19133705 - 11/13/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

above all else, regardless of what anyone has to say... its really up to him, how ever much he feels comfortable with. my opinion is that if hes gonna do it, he should do it right. or dont. but its up to him.


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: Rachelbre]
    #19133706 - 11/13/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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This is his first time doing anything besides weed because he'd so anti drug, but he knows I love it so he finally agreed to do it with me this weekend :laugh: he's nervous and every time I bring it up, he gets grumpy about it but says he does want to do it he just doesn't believe in drugs. (I tell him it's not the hard type of drugs, it is spiritual and he thinks it's a bunch of crap :frown: ) he's nervous I think I'll does him with 1.6, but he's a tall guy so I'm not sure if it's enough!
On the other note, how can I get him excited about it and at least make this trip a good one and a memorable night for us :smile:





Too bad you can't get him to chew about a foot of Bridgessii cactus.  He'll be in love with you forever after humps you back to the stoneage.


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: Rachelbre]
    #19133709 - 11/13/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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wrestler_az said:
look, im just saying those tough to handle trips are going to happen when fucking around with psychedelics. and the user needs tro be prepared for that, not afraid of it. dont pussy foot around with a gram or 2. 3 grams minimum for a first time. if you arent willing for the full experience, dont even bother.




Lol so 3 grams is the full experience? These are subjective numbers. That's all i'm saying. The dude does not sound at all excited to trip. An 1/8 of potent shrooms can easily be a disaster for an unexperienced person who isn't looking forward to it. That's the main point. I'm not saying 3+ grams is a bad starting place. It's just not for everyone, especially the hesitant.


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: wrestler_az]
    #19133710 - 11/13/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think "being tough" has anything to do with it. It's being smart, whoever the user is, should do the amount they're comfortable with


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19133716 - 11/13/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

for a first timer, yes.


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: Rachelbre]
    #19133725 - 11/13/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think "being tough" has anything to do with it. It's being smart, whoever the user is, should do the amount they're comfortable with




Exactly. You are doing everything right. I would personally probably give him 2 just because i'm not sure that 1.6 would even be noticeable, but i don't know that for sure. But if he's willing, you should let him look up doses and decide for himself


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: Rachelbre]
    #19133732 - 11/13/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i was using tough to describe the experience, not the individual... look, its just my opinion. take it for what it is, im not going to change my mind.


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: Rachelbre]
    #19133739 - 11/13/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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What if he ate 1.6 then ate more throughout the night depending on how he felt?



Nope,  not unless you plan on wasting a LOT of shrooms, tolerance build up really high shortly after ingesting them.


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: Rachelbre]
    #19133746 - 11/13/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you haven't already, get him to read a few trip reports. It's good for somebody new, to know what they are getting into.  Then ask him how much he wants to take.


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #19133753 - 11/13/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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physicist said:
If you haven't already, get him to read a few trip reports. It's good for somebody new, to know what they are getting into.  Then ask him how much he wants to take.




Best advice so far really


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19133755 - 11/13/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i said it first :smile:


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: Rachelbre]
    #19133759 - 11/13/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think "being tough" has anything to do with it. It's being smart, whoever the user is, should do the amount they're comfortable with



To an extent yeah, but a psychedellic naive person has no real concept of mushroom doses.

Like I already said 3.5 is good for a first timer IMO, because it tears down barriers and makes them submit to The Psychedelic Experience, butr it's not my decision so whatever you decide, good vibes:mushroom2:


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: wrestler_az]
    #19133762 - 11/13/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

well, not the trip report part... kudos, job well done.


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #19133771 - 11/13/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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If you haven't already, get him to read a few trip reports. It's good for somebody new, to know what they are getting into.  Then ask him how much he wants to take.



I don't really reccomend people do that, it gives you preconceived(sp?) notions of what tripping is like, I wish I didn't do this.

Not to mention it's hard to interpret text, especially about something as complex as tripping.


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19133782 - 11/13/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

on a related note, with dmt i quite often make contact with  mechanical elves similar to what mckenna describes. i wonder sometimes if had i not listened to all his talks before i did it, if i still would...


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Re: How can I get my boyfriend ready to trip [Re: wrestler_az]
    #19133797 - 11/13/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mjmihalov said:
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physicist said:
If you haven't already, get him to read a few trip reports. It's good for somebody new, to know what they are getting into.  Then ask him how much he wants to take.



I don't really reccomend people do that, it gives you preconceived(sp?) notions of what tripping is like, I wish I didn't do this.

Not to mention it's hard to interpret text, especially about something as complex as tripping.




Yeah that's the downside, but it's really the only basis you have to go by if you haven't done them yet. I was going to suggest erowids dosage chart til i realized it was shit...

The way i would put it...

2 grams = dreamlike feeling. some euphoria. maybe slight visual anomalies
3 grams = full tracers, mild patterning, euphoria
3.5 = full blown psychedelia. spirals, patterns, neon strobes, heavy tracers
5 grams = tracers moving in extra dimensional space, heavy patterns, neons everywhere, thought spirals, possible moments of heavy ego dissolution and revelations of the functionings of the universe.

Assuming they're decent cubes. I would really just present something like that, and see what he's into. Give him an idea of how different doses generally compare.
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on a related note, with dmt i quite often make contact with  mechanical elves similar to what mckenna describes. i wonder sometimes if had i not listened to all his talks before i did it, if i still would...




I personally did way before hearing about mckenna. in fact when i started listening to his talks i was in shock of how accurately he described my trips.


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