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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: zappaisgod]
#19132503 - 11/13/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The lottery notion is really just a metaphor for whatever random process causes the population reduction, whether it be a virus, nuclear winter, asteroid strike, whatever it takes.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Enlil] 1
#19132520 - 11/13/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You postulated a chooser, not I. I merely suggested that you assume that role and choose yourself as an example for others to follow.
You really don't want to go down this route. You have done enough already but as an opt out you have no business extolling the virtue of future mass death. You have no skin in the game.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: zappaisgod]
#19132523 - 11/13/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have skin in the game until I'm dead. After that, you're right...I really don't give a fuck what happens to the planet.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Enlil]
#19132528 - 11/13/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well??????????????????????? Will that be your last post?
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: zappaisgod]
#19132539 - 11/13/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm going to live until I die. You're just going to have to be patient.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: zappaisgod]
#19132683 - 11/13/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I think you both should lead the way and set an example.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19133020 - 11/13/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:x I'm in favor of starting out with a virus that wipes out the uneducated bottom class that keeps popping out baby after baby. They contribute nothing to society except overpopulation. And the billionaires that spend tens of thousands of dollars a month to heat their fourty acre homes, they are reaponsible for the most overconsumption and waste of resources.
Holy fuck, you and Hitler could have been great friends.
Well, I wouldn't really do it. The humanist in me would feel too bad seeing people lose their loved ones and family members. I don't want to bring that kind of pain and suffering to anybody. But if I was God, like a sociopathic god who was cold and calculating and only cared about numbers and efficiency like some corporate whore, that is what I would do.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G]
#19133036 - 11/13/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:x I'm in favor of starting out with a virus that wipes out the uneducated bottom class that keeps popping out baby after baby. They contribute nothing to society except overpopulation. And the billionaires that spend tens of thousands of dollars a month to heat their fourty acre homes, they are reaponsible for the most overconsumption and waste of resources.
Holy fuck, you and Hitler could have been great friends.
Well, I wouldn't really do it. The humanist in me would feel too bad seeing people lose their loved ones and family members. I don't want to bring that kind of pain and suffering to anybody. But if I was God, like a sociopathic god who was cold and calculating and only cared about numbers and efficiency like some corporate whore, that is what I would do.
I'd do it, I don't give a fuck, even if I died in the process.
I feel it kind of needs to be done and in the end tnere'd end up being less suffering in the world.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#19133199 - 11/13/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G]
#19133235 - 11/13/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: Well, I wouldn't really do it. The humanist in me would feel too bad seeing people lose their loved ones and family members. I don't want to bring that kind of pain and suffering to anybody. But if I was God, like a sociopathic god who was cold and calculating and only cared about numbers and efficiency like some corporate whore, that is what I would do.
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Mush4Brains said: Holy fuck, you and Hitler could have been great friends.
It doesn't matter that you "wouldn't really do it." To even suggest something like that puts you in a group of really awful people. Like zappa said, maybe you should lead the charge of mass extermination, and lead by example.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: TrentBoyett]
#19133240 - 11/13/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: I'd do it, I don't give a fuck, even if I died in the process.
I feel it kind of needs to be done and in the end tnere'd end up being less suffering in the world.
Less suffering for who?
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19133257 - 11/13/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I feel it kind of needs to be done and in the end tnere'd end up being less suffering in the world.
Less suffering for who?
Everyone, starving, diseased infested people to start with.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19133375 - 11/13/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: It doesn't matter that you "wouldn't really do it." To even suggest something like that puts you in a group of really awful people. Like zappa said, maybe you should lead the charge of mass extermination, and lead by example.
Does it? Even a pedophile who has thoughts of attraction towards children aren't bad, cause that's what they're attracted to, they are only bad if they act upon it.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G] 1
#19133393 - 11/13/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I vomit a little in my mouth every time, but I actually agree with you on this one.
We all commit horrible atrocities in our minds. Actions are what define our characters.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G] 1
#19133395 - 11/13/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would put a pedophile who doesn't act on their urges above someone who wants to exterminate the poor and uneducated. To say something like that and not even once ask if you, yourself, would be considered to be in such a group is laughable.
You can defend yourself all you want. You've made your point clear. You like genocide. Maybe you should go to a third world country where genocide is happening and help with the slaughter. That way you could get your jollies off while killing the poor and uneducated.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19133421 - 11/13/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: I would put a pedophile who doesn't act on their urges above someone who wants to exterminate the poor and uneducated. To say something like that and not even once ask if you, yourself, would be considered to be in such a group is laughable.
No. I am not poor or uneducated, and I am also single and don't have any babies. I have never in my life been on any kind of food stamps of financial welfare (unless you count student loans, but I'm paying those back with interest so the government is making money off me). I am neither obese, and the resources that I use are very minimal. Regardless, I wasn't for eradicating the poor. The working class is actually very useful for businesses (without the working class the rich wouldn't even exist), and they tend to have very funny and easygoing personalities.
What I said was, that it would be beneficial for the world if a virus wiped out people who kept popping out baby after baby after baby, which STATISTICALLY tends to be the poor and uneducated.
However, I also said that people who are extravagantly wealthy and wasteful of resources should be included, such as the guy who pays $40,000 a month heating cost for his $30 million mansion. Why didn't you mention that?
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You can defend yourself all you want. You've made your point clear. You like genocide. Maybe you should go to a third world country where genocide is happening and help with the slaughter. That way you could get your jollies off while killing the poor and uneducated.
People who physically assault other people are much worse than people who merely think about genocide. Our society already approves of genocide and torture, it's called patriotism for military service. Anybody who says they have never once thought about killing or hurting somebody they despise is a liar. The difference is whether you act on it or not. You can have all the thoughts you want, you're only human, what differentiates you between human and monster is whether you act upon it or not.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G]
#19133447 - 11/13/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Saying that somebody is bad for thinking about genocide, is like saying that somebody is bad for writing a book about torture and genocide. Except that thoughts are even more innate to your nature than written words. You are allowed to not like the words all you want. But prosecuting somebody for having a mere thought or writing something is a clear violation of freedom.
If this is the case, then I would say you are a bad person too. After all, people are racist, as a matter of fact everybody is subconsciously racist deep down to some degree. The difference is whether you act on it and choose to discriminate or not. If you try your best to suppress your inert racism, then your racist thoughts don't make you a bad person.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G]
#19133474 - 11/13/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're not poor or uneducated according to yourself. This super virus you want to destroy 50% of the population might not see it the same way.
Also, if you think I am defending the super wealthy then you need to diversify the boards you go to and find a little more out about me before you make such a ridiculous claim.
But seriously. You can go help the genocide in third world countries if that is what you desire so much.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19133929 - 11/13/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: You're not poor or uneducated according to yourself. This super virus you want to destroy 50% of the population might not see it the same way.
Well, if it's a virus then it wouldn't really target anybody specifically, except that the children and the elderly would be at a disadvantage.
I'm also not one of those people that needs to live a long life, and I invite death when it comes. I'm actually almost excited for it.
Plus, I never ever said that poor people are the target. I said that only people who are over-consuming or breeding too much would be the target. The end result would be that poor people would more often end up dying, simply because they tend to be the ones that breed too often. The extravagantly wealthy who waste resources and money would also inevitably end up being targets.
But I'll entertain you. If we are going by how poor and uneducated somebody is, it means that virtually all third world and developing countries would be eradicated first. I don't have the exact numbers, but if you are considered middle-class in America, then what percentage of the world does that make you? The top 10%? The top 20%? I don't really know. But it definitely wouldn't be around top 50%.
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Also, if you think I am defending the super wealthy then you need to diversify the boards you go to and find a little more out about me before you make such a ridiculous claim.
I have been reading throughout the thread and know you are not defending wealthy people. But you accused me of being discriminatory against the poor, which I was not. The wealthy consume more than the poor actually if you only account per individual.
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But seriously. You can go help the genocide in third world countries if that is what you desire so much.
I don't need to. They are doing it themselves. If it isn't the cannibal warlods in Liberia or the Armenian persecution and genocide in Turkey, it's always something else.
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G] 1
#19134754 - 11/14/13 04:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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except that the children and the elderly would be at a disadvantage
The Spanish flu killed more young, healthy adults.
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Plus, I never ever said that poor people are the target. I said that only people who are over-consuming or breeding too much would be the target. The end result would be that poor people would more often end up dying, simply because they tend to be the ones that breed too often. The extravagantly wealthy who waste resources and money would also inevitably end up being targets.
Yep, you'd fit in nicely with the 20th century Progressives/Socialists.
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