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Just like the dying French language
    #19132536 - 11/13/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

requires legislation to keep it relevant in the world the Republicants now rely on Gerrymandering, the Filibuster, and Disenfranchising Vote to keep themselves relevant in US politics.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-republicans-rig-the-game-20131111

"The good news is that the future is more powerful than Republican dirty tricks. The GOP may have postponed its day of reckoning at the hands of a younger, browner, queerer electorate – "They're holding back the tides," says Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics – but sooner or later, they're going to get swamped."

So build your dikes ever higher because the oncoming Dem tide is rising, the higher you build them the farther they fall, and the more spectacular the flood.


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: sweeper54] * 3
    #19132591 - 11/13/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

All parties have been gerrymandering since the beginning of this nation.


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #19132631 - 11/13/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

LOL Rolling Stone.  Does anybody read it?


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19132651 - 11/13/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Obviously not you two.

The difference with this gerrymandering is they used a computer program to maximize the pubs and minimize the dems.

The tide is coming, seek higher ground.


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: sweeper54]
    #19132661 - 11/13/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That's what gerrymandering is, dude...whether they use a computer, the goal is to keep all of the other party voters in the least amount of districts while spreading one's own party's voters to more districts with just enough votes to win all of those districts.

Those in power get to draw district lines, so they always draw them to benefit themselves.



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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: Enlil]
    #19132935 - 11/13/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Rolling Stone has great journalism and frankly if you're not reading Taibbi I can 99.9% guarantee you don't know about the massive fraud going on in our financial markets with LIBOR, ISDAfix, the Brent Benchmark, etc. They're fixing LIBOR, the interest rate swaps, the price of energy, and the foreign currency market...and that's just what we know of. That isn't even talking about the manipulation of the commodities market via the GSCI and (until recently) clandestine removal of position limits by the CFTC.

Laughing at RollingStone? The joke is on you.


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: sytar]
    #19132954 - 11/13/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

For the record many blue states like California and Washington have legitimately independent commissions draw lines so as to not abuse the power of gerrymandering.  On the other hand Republicans are abusing the power to the theoretical maximum. One side is interested in playing fair. You can rationalize your dirty tactics with "the other guy does it too" but it just ain't true.


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: sytar]
    #19133013 - 11/13/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't see that it matters either way.  The vast majority of seats will go to either a democrat or a republican.


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19133314 - 11/13/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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LOL Rolling Stone.  Does anybody read it?




Rolling Stone puts out quality pieces with a high integrity quite often.  Just because they don't coincide with your views doesn't mean they're wrong or full of shit.

Hate to break it to you, but your conservative fantasy-land doesn't exist anywhere outside of your own head.


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19133330 - 11/13/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I love it when liberals and conservatives argue with each other as if they're really any different.


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: Enlil]
    #19133343 - 11/13/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I love it when liberals and conservatives argue with each other as if they're really any different.




Do you mean Democrats and Republicans?  Because if you're going to try to argue that liberals and conservatives are the same thing, I'm not entirely sure you know how the political spectrum works.


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    #19133354 - 11/13/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I know how it works.  In practical terms, however, people fall in a very narrow range in the center of the spectrum, and only use the terms liberal and conservative relatively.  Very few actual conservatives exist and even fewer true liberals.


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: Enlil]
    #19133377 - 11/13/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I know how it works.  In practical terms, however, people fall in a very narrow range in the center of the spectrum, and only use the terms liberal and conservative relatively.  Very few actual conservatives exist and even fewer true liberals.




I'm a fiscally conservative socially liberal Libertarian. I dislike both major but I dislike Democrats a whole lot more. The problem with Republicans is they're not fiscally conservative enough


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: Simplicitry]
    #19133436 - 11/13/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm a mutualist and amused when libertarians try to pretend they're above left and right. You're not objective or some thoughtful synthesis of both sides. You're non-authoritarian conservatives in your pure form but in the majority of cases still tainted. Deal with it.


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: sytar]
    #19133522 - 11/13/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm a mutualist and amused when libertarians try to pretend they're above left and right. You're not objective or some thoughtful synthesis of both sides. You're non-authoritarian conservatives in your pure form but in the majority of cases still tainted. Deal with it.




I am right wing. Never denied it. Saying I'm tainted just isn't a very intellectually stimulating debate point. I'll leave it at that


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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

"Islam in a man is worse then rabies in a dog"


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: Simplicitry]
    #19133570 - 11/13/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I am however socially liberal. I am not religious, I'm pro choice (less undesirables is always a plus), I believe in equal rights for gays, I support drug legalization (something your precious Democrat politicians don't even support)


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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

"Islam in a man is worse then rabies in a dog"


Edited by Simplicitry (11/13/13 10:59 PM)


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: Simplicitry]
    #19133820 - 11/13/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think any of us here are Democrat politicians, actually.


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19133860 - 11/13/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think any of us here are Democrat politicians, actually.




Fixed it. Great contribution to the discussion.  Way to address some important points


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I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

"Islam in a man is worse then rabies in a dog"


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: sytar]
    #19136920 - 11/14/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Rolling Stone has great journalism and frankly if you're not reading Taibbi I can 99.9% guarantee you don't know about the massive fraud going on in our financial markets with LIBOR, ISDAfix, the Brent Benchmark, etc. They're fixing LIBOR, the interest rate swaps, the price of energy, and the foreign currency market...and that's just what we know of. That isn't even talking about the manipulation of the commodities market via the GSCI and (until recently) clandestine removal of position limits by the CFTC.

Laughing at RollingStone? The joke is on you.




Taibbi?  Lickspittle commie retard as predictable and void of intellect as Old Faithful.


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Re: Just like the dying French language [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19136925 - 11/14/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:lolsy:

Ok, zap.  You stick to Breitbart and Redstate.  I'll stick to actual journalism.


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