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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Debian is considering switching their init system from System V.
    #19132736 - 11/13/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So it's probably old news to many people whom keep up with the news in the *nix world, but i'm making a thread about it anyway.
The following is from Distrowatch.com
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Members of the Debian project, one of the Linux community's largest and longest-living distributions, had a lot to talk about this past week. The first topic of interest is the idea that Debian could benefit from having a new init system. To date Debian has used a more traditional init system to get the operating system from a cold start to a running environment and some people feel Debian would benefit from using a more modern init system such as Upstart or Systemd. The suggestion kicked off a heated debate on the Debian mailing lists as people chimed in with their opinions for or against each option. As a result, Debian's tech committee as been asked to vote on the decision as to which direction (if any) Debian will take in the future. While the decision is unlikely to affect desktop users directly, it will impact system administrators and package maintainers who may soon face a new approach to managing services.




I don't think Debian will be switching to Upstart. There is a slight rivalry/dislike for Ubuntu from the Debian community; i do think Systemd is likely possibility though. I am not knowledgeable enough to be able to analyze Systemd and make a well educated decision on if it's beneficial or not. I used to use OpenSUSE, and there was a definite decline in quality within the distribution upon the adoption of Systemd in version 12.1. version 12.2 was significantly better, but still not on par with 11.4. I never used 12.3.
I'd been using Debian for the last five months (Recently distro hopped away). I personally hope they continue to use System V as the default, i don't think they will, due to the pressure being placed within the community, the devs, and the adoption from other distros. I Really appreciate Debian's decision to use System V in Wheezy, but have Systemd available in the repositories. If Debian switches their init system, i hope they at least continue this cycle, and include System V in the repos too.
What i do not like about Systemd is that is seems to be consuming other packages, which makes programs that previously depended on them, now depend on Systemd. This in obnoxious behaviour, and conflicts with the Unix philosophy of each program only doing one thing, but doing it well. i choose not use it to show my dislike of it. System V worked fine, why reinvent the wheel just for a little faster boot time? To many (maybe even most) *nix users it's irrelevant because their computers are barely ever shut down.
Thanks to jprzybylski from over at LQ, for the pic.


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