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OfflineMush4Brains
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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #19129432 - 11/12/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Everybody should just give up. Gilgamesh18 already claimed he won this thread by making retarded statements.



Hey mush lets keep it civil




I was trying to keep it civil until you claimed that environmentalists are trying to destroy scientific advancement or whatever your bullshit argument was.  And then sent me a PM saying you "won your capitalism thread" by making such retarded statements.

Let's keep it civil by not falling off the deep end in the first place, ok champ?


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19129442 - 11/12/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Everybody should just give up. Gilgamesh18 already claimed he won this thread by making retarded statements.



Hey mush lets keep it civil




I was trying to keep it civil until you claimed that environmentalists are trying to destroy scientific advancement or whatever your bullshit argument was.  And then sent me a PM saying you "won your capitalism thread" by making such retarded statements.

Let's keep it civil by not falling off the deep end in the first place, ok champ?



I only said I won because you claimed you were abandoning the thread also I sent the pm in jest I had no hostile intention


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #19129450 - 11/12/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have a massive wiener.

Ok, it's not "massive" but it is formidable.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19129452 - 11/13/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I have a massive wiener.

Ok, it's not "massive" but it is formidable.



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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #19129454 - 11/13/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just won this thread.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #19129460 - 11/13/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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How are water filters and desalinated water and solar power and electric cars anti-scientific?



Most environmentalists I interact with are opposed to modern industrialism in all its forms. I have had actual conversations with greenpeace activists were they have said that they wish a virus would kill most of humanity. They then went on about how we need to return to a hunter gatherer lifestyle :rofl:




Simply because all anti-industrialist green-peace activist hippies are environmentalists doesn't mean all environmentalists are anti-industrialist. There are tons of technological advancements that will revolutionize industries and societies that are built on environmentalism. Electric cars, solar power, wind turbines, and desalinated water being some big ones.

The fact that a lot of these green-peace people use the internet and carry cell-phones would signify they are not completely against industrialism, probably just certain kinds of industry. Ever notice that green-peace people also enjoy drugs, particularly LSD and herb? Well, you need chemistry and technology to create these things. I don't think they're anti-technology, they're probably anti-corporatism which is a different thing entirely.

I've also met environmentalists who are vegetarians and also do testing for the USDA organic sector. That's a pretty scientific job if you ask me.

Although if you ask me, a virus that would wipe out half the population certainly would take care of the over-population problem and over-consumption of resources. :lol:


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G]
    #19130071 - 11/13/13 05:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Although if you ask me, a virus that would wipe out half the population certainly would take care of the over-population problem and over-consumption of resources. :lol:



This is the first good idea I've ever seen you post.  Half isn't really enough, though.  A 90-95% reduction would be much better.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #19131744 - 11/13/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The truly wealthy line the pockets of the pols to write legislation that benefits them at the cost of the little guy. This is not capitalism, more like cronyism.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Enlil]
    #19131955 - 11/13/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Although if you ask me, a virus that would wipe out half the population certainly would take care of the over-population problem and over-consumption of resources. :lol:



This is the first good idea I've ever seen you post.  Half isn't really enough, though.  A 90-95% reduction would be much better.




95% is too much I think. If there was some kind of famine or disease epidemic, there's a chance it would wipe out quite a lot of civilization almost to extinction. There would also need to be a certain percentage of the population that could work as farmers, doctors, technological innovators and engineers, firefighters, pharmacists, scientists, and police officers, to be able to sustain society.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G]
    #19132093 - 11/13/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nah...that's why it's gotta be a high percentage.  You want to make sure that there aren't enough people around that actually know how to run the current infrastructure.  The point is to set civilization back at least a thousand years or so.

The species will survive, but it'll take a long time before we get back to this point...that way, the earth and other species get a bit of a break while humanity recovers.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Enlil]
    #19132114 - 11/13/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Nah...that's why it's gotta be a high percentage.  You want to make sure that there aren't enough people around that actually know how to run the current infrastructure.  The point is to set civilization back at least a thousand years or so.

The species will survive, but it'll take a long time before we get back to this point...that way, the earth and other species get a bit of a break while humanity recovers.




Well, I'm only concerned that if 95 percent of the population goes extinct and humanity goes back 1,000 years and people arent educated we risk going extinct sue or ill due to lack of sanitation, or people waging dumbass wars over religion, or wiping out from diseases. We would need chemists to create treatment and vaccines and bleach and soap and things like that.

I'm in favor of starting out with a virus that wipes out the uneducated bottom class that keeps popping out baby after baby. They contribute nothing to society except overpopulation. And the billionaires that spend tens of thousands of dollars a month to heat their fourty acre homes, they are reaponsible for the most overconsumption and waste of resources.

What do you know enlil, I'm starting to like you.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G]
    #19132129 - 11/13/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You're right tho, we wouldn't need engineers at this point. In order to accomplish what we would be accomplishing,  engineers would be useless.  They would just create pollution and be responsible for eradicating books from society and for creating even more powerful weapons such as nukes. If nukes were available back when christianity emerged, society would have ended right there. Kill all engineers too.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G]
    #19132208 - 11/13/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You gotta figure that many won't know how to survive, but there will certainly be some that do....particularly in the regions of the planet where the climate lends itself to easy survival and abundant food.  After a generation or two, the technology and lifestyle of today will just be a story told when people look at machines they no longer know how to run. 

Communication and travel will be severely limited, so it'll be awhile before people start to work together on any kind of regional scale...and global communication will be far in the future.

I don't like the idea of picking the dead by education level or anything like that.  I like a totally random process.  Even the highly educated will mostly be ineffective in the post-viral world because specialization tends to make those people highly reliant on other people.

There will be a few outliers who will take the time to figure out how to approximate the life they had, but they will die off, and only a few of these outliers will adequately educate their children.  Those children will probably not adequately educate theirs, etc.

Eventually, mankind will begin the slow trek back up the ladder, and it will happen faster than it happened the first time since there will be so much help from the relics that are left around.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G]
    #19132261 - 11/13/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm in favor of starting out with a virus that wipes out the uneducated bottom class that keeps popping out baby after baby. They contribute nothing to society except overpopulation. And the billionaires that spend tens of thousands of dollars a month to heat their fourty acre homes, they are reaponsible for the most overconsumption and waste of resources.





Holy fuck, you and Hitler could have been great friends.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19132273 - 11/13/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm in favor of starting out with a virus that wipes out the uneducated bottom class that keeps popping out baby after baby. They contribute nothing to society except overpopulation. And the billionaires that spend tens of thousands of dollars a month to heat their fourty acre homes, they are reaponsible for the most overconsumption and waste of resources.





Holy fuck, you and Hitler could have been great friends.




What if perhaps we engineered a virus like the genophage and you could only give birth if you had enough money to buy a cure?

It's evil yes, but is it really wrong?


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G]
    #19132399 - 11/13/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You're right tho, we wouldn't need engineers at this point. In order to accomplish what we would be accomplishing,  engineers would be useless.  They would just create pollution and be responsible for eradicating books from society and for creating even more powerful weaponssuch as nukes. Kill all engineers too.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Crystal G]
    #19132403 - 11/13/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

We also wouldn't need double posting.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Enlil]
    #19132420 - 11/13/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think you both should lead the way and set an example.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19132434 - 11/13/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldn't care whether I was chosen to die or not...as long as everyone else had an equal chance of being chosen.

If I didn't, however, I could definitely survive the aftermath.  Once I got myself set up, I'd start recruiting a harem of women who want to survive but lack the skills.


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Re: Capitalism benefits the masses more so than the wealthy [Re: Enlil]
    #19132482 - 11/13/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I wouldn't care whether I was chosen to die or not...as long as everyone else had an equal chance of being chosen.




Why?  I'm not interested in your stupid fucking lottery at all and I think most people are probably similarly inclined so the only solution for you is to eradicate 100% of the people who think depopulation is a good idea.  Go do it right now.
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If I didn't, however, I could definitely survive the aftermath.  Once I got myself set up, I'd start recruiting a harem of women who want to survive but lack the skills.




Right.  As a lawyer you could no doubt grow an awesome garden from the fertilizer of your professional verbiage.  Mankind has been doing it for millenia.


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