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Never done shrooms...turned off acid after bad trip
    #19131162 - 11/13/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Okay so back as a stupid teenager, I took a lot of acid. Tripped over maybe 50 times, candy flipped once, most acid ever taken was 7 hits by accident at a party in 1996. The dealer handed them to me and I took them all, not realizing they were folded up accordion style. Friends turn to me for hits and I pull a long ass sheet of paper out of my mouth like a fucking magician pulls out colored tissue. I knew I was in for a hell of a night.

Basically, around 7am friends are coming down. I'm still high as fuck and starting to get scared. I go home and around noon tell my parents I took too much acid accidentally at a party and I was not sure what to do. My mom sat with me for the next day in my bedroom knitting and just talking to me and shit. My dad wanted to take me into the ER, but my mom knew better.

Eventually I came down, stupidly did acid like 6 months later. Gel tabs 2 with one pill of ecstasy. I believe I had a flashback to the time I took too much and it was not enjoyable.

Now that I'm older and know myself a lot better (33) I would like to experience mushrooms. I would like to have a nice experience where I can learn more about myself or how I view my own reality...kind of how I got over ptsd stuff (being raped at 14 and abused as a child) using MDMA. I hear it's a less anxiety type high. I have benzodiazepines on hand just incase. Should be dosing for the first time in a few weeks if all goes as planned with an experienced close friend. However, she is never as cautious as I am with dosing when it comes to any drugs we do. She's unlike me in the way she simply can handle large doses, I've been there and do not appreciate it.

How much is a safe dose? I'm female around 150 lbs. Can we grind the dose and put them in caps so I don't have to taste it?

Mainly I would appreciate thoughts on how mushrooms are different than, or similar to LSD.


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Re: Never done shrooms...turned off acid after bad trip [Re: molly21molly]
    #19131201 - 11/13/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i like 1.7g dried but id give that cid another chance


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Re: Never done shrooms...turned off acid after bad trip [Re: molly21molly] * 1
    #19131252 - 11/13/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think that each chemical effects people differently, but a safe dose I would say would be 2-2.5 grams. Grinding in a coffee grinder then putting it into capsules works very well if you dislike the taste, I usually make chocolates though.

I would say that mushrooms are more introspective than LSD, but that is just based of my experiences, and I personally prefer fungi > lsd. So my opinion may be somewhat biased.

as for experience, mushrooms most likely will have a bigger body load than lsd. An upset stomach is never fun, an antacid usually helps my stomach if I am having issues. Personally with my experiences, taking mushrooms in public is somewhat un-nerving. I feel it adds stress based from thinking of people perceiving yourself. Being in a friendly environment or out in nature i think is best environment.

If you are up for an intense experience, I would recommend 3.5g's or more (i take 5gs cubes), your favorite music, a dark room, and a friend. With sitting in a dark room, your closed eyed visuals merge into open eyed visuals due to no visual stimuli other than the fungi itself.

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Re: Never done shrooms...turned off acid after bad trip [Re: fatchillin] * 3
    #19131289 - 11/13/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's generally not in your best interest to treat psychedelics as tools for 'getting high' - they are not party drugs. It looks like your views on psychedelics have changed a bit since when you were younger, so that's good.

As far as your approach, remember that there are no bad trips, and every 'difficult' or 'anxious' thing you encounter while tripping is an unresolved problem in your subconscious. I strongly advise against using benzos to 'abort'. These moments are second to none for spiritual/mental exploration & development, and for finding ways to make peace with your issues permanently.

Anyways I'm like 10 years younger than you so take that with a grain of salt, or something.


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Re: Never done shrooms...turned off acid after bad trip [Re: kneesocks]
    #19131301 - 11/13/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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kneesocks said:
It's generally not in your best interest to treat psychedelics as tools for 'getting high' - they are not party drugs. It looks like your views on psychedelics have changed a bit since when you were younger, so that's good.

As far as your approach, remember that there are no bad trips, and every 'difficult' or 'anxious' thing you encounter while tripping is an unresolved problem in your subconscious. I strongly advise against using benzos to 'abort'. These moments are second to none for spiritual/mental exploration & development, and for finding ways to make peace with your issues permanently.




Very well put ^


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Re: Never done shrooms...turned off acid after bad trip [Re: AndersonCoopmasta]
    #19131308 - 11/13/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You know what? I would dose on LSD again, a low dose probably home alone with some nice music.

Although around 1998 my love affair with MDMA began, and never really ended. I couldn't eat enough of that beautiful molecular compound. I would eat a ten pack in a few hours every weekend for years. I only stopped taking MDMA because now so much of it in my area is an RC that poorly mimics MDMA.

So I lost all my connections for LSD. Fuck I knew this kid that was making the shit in a barn in my town back in the 90s. Now it's 2-cb or LSA or other drugs I have no experience with. I haven't heard of LSD being in my area in the past year. Last time it was $30a hit. I just laughed and said fuck off. LSD was always under $7 or free when I was using it. MDMA goes down in price and quality and LSD prices go sky high? I don't get it.

My friends has a few scales...the mushrooms are weighed dried, right? They're the one drug left I always wanted to do and just never got around to it.

Mainly, how are the highs (LSD and mushrooms) different?


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Re: Never done shrooms...turned off acid after bad trip [Re: kneesocks]
    #19131329 - 11/13/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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kneesocks said:
It's generally not in your best interest to treat psychedelics as tools for 'getting high' - they are not party drugs. It looks like your views on psychedelics have changed a bit since when you were younger, so that's good.

As far as your approach, remember that there are no bad trips, and every 'difficult' or 'anxious' thing you encounter while tripping is an unresolved problem in your subconscious. I strongly advise against using benzos to 'abort'. These moments are second to none for spiritual/mental exploration & development, and for finding ways to make peace with your issues permanently.

Anyways I'm like 10 years younger than you so take that with a grain of salt, or something.




You're absolutely right! I was trying to say what you just said way better than me. I will either be home or at her apartment when we dose. Not in public.

Whats up w people not knowing if their eyes are open or shut in the shroom trip reports? Is this common????


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Re: Never done shrooms...turned off acid after bad trip [Re: molly21molly]
    #19132179 - 11/13/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just like environments where opening and closing your eyes doesn't make a difference. (dark room tripping is what me and my buddies call it) you can tell if your eyes are open / closed just from sensory awareness, its just the patterns / visuals states you indulge in don't change as drastically as if you were to trip with lights on.

Its mainly a personal preference for me, but eh :rolleyes: different strokes for different folks.


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Re: Never done shrooms...turned off acid after bad trip [Re: fatchillin] * 1
    #19132413 - 11/13/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Lmao.  Tripped 50 times then quit because of a bad trip... I mean I get it, but what were you expecting? It's part of the game. That's why I really encourage people not to take these with the "get fucked up" mentality. Don't get me wrong, I'm no pseudo spiritual elitist. But they're not just pretty colors, they're mind warping drugs. Use them for spiritual guidance, to enhance nature, as a simple curiosity of the mind, however you want. But you need some sort of framework for dealing with bad trips as you can expect powerful shifts in conscience. For example, in the shamanic realm you don't have bad trips, only learning experiences. Doesn't mean everyone needs to be like a shaman but hopefully you get the point. Without some sort of framework you are extremely vulnerable to large volumes of negativity and fear which can cause lasting anxiety issues.

Anyways, I say this because shrooms are no different than acid. Subjectively they have their own feel, but it's the same type of experience in the end. if having a bad trip is the end of the world for you then don't take mushrooms. If you can keep it in some sort of perspective that's not going to interfere with your life then by all means, enjoy! In either case, if you do them, start low. 2 grams and work up. It may not bring you back to your acid tripping days, but better safe than sorry. And work up from there


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Re: Never done shrooms...turned off acid after bad trip [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19132551 - 11/13/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

its all about perspective buddy, maybe the bad trip isn't what you should be escaping but more like embracing and maybe it will teach you ways to handle different situations in your daily life if you integrate it properly


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    #19132749 - 11/13/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Never done shrooms...turned off acid after bad trip [Re: blutigmetzger]
    #19134914 - 11/14/13 06:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah dark side, trance, and Tchaikovsky were always my trip music because you can get so lost in it.

It wasn't like I just had a bad trip. It was like I abused a substance and it wanted to teach me a lesson. It was almost like I had a minor psychotic break during the experience. For some reason using acid after that gave me a lot of guilt. Sounds silly, but I started to see too much reality in the world and it left me extremely uncomfortable.

Since the early 90s I have definitely gained respect for hallucinogens. When I was 14 I just took acid to pass the time. Now that I'm older I want to try shrooms to see deeper within and learn more about myself and how I view the world. I want it to not scare the shit out of me at the same time so I will start at a low dose. I haven't tripped since 1997 maybe. I took so much acid I believe I fucked with my psyche, and then I found mdma and it healed it.

I'm trying to decide if I should trip with my sister at her place, my house alone - my house is pretty big and I'm in the middle of nowhere so nobody would bother me, or with my other friend at her place. She has these two huge ads pit bull dogs that are very sweet, but might bug me out on mushrooms. I don't trust animals that could take me.

Thank you guys so much for the suggestions.

I remember acid sometimes lasting like over 12 hours...then not being able to sleep and feeling really cracked out. Mushrooms are what, about 5 hours?


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Re: Never done shrooms...turned off acid after bad trip [Re: blutigmetzger]
    #19161006 - 11/19/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Any updates on whether you have taken your first trip yet?




She got banned, you missed her hilarious thread in the pub.


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