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Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please!
    #19132159 - 11/13/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Found this morning, would appreciate help with I.D. I'm tired of messing up. I'm looking for a quick confirmation, I found pounds of these in a circular formation.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: parkera26]
    #19132165 - 11/13/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like a Stropharia sp.

Not active.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: Ganzig]
    #19132183 - 11/13/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The indented middle of the cap in your first picture is a good pointer that these aren't what you're looking for. You seem to have a mixed collection, as the mushroom in the left is different to those on the right, possibly even Psilocybe cyanescens, but poor quality picture makes it hard to tell. The ones on the right with the funnel-shaped cap and chunky stem are something else. Possibly Lactarius. Your other pictures show something else, maybe Stropharia as Ganzig says.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! *DELETED* [Re: Tas75]
    #19132198 - 11/13/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Reason for deletion: dumb



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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: parkera26]
    #19132225 - 11/13/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

More pics please.

I am not convinced that you have Psilocybe but the middle picture
is a candidate.

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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: Ganzig]
    #19132330 - 11/13/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

more coming.. spore prints are purple-brownish, working on good ones.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: parkera26]
    #19132587 - 11/13/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: parkera26]
    #19132687 - 11/13/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Pholiota species


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19133057 - 11/13/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

fml


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: parkera26] * 1
    #19133073 - 11/13/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:laugh2:


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: parkera26]
    #19133238 - 11/13/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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parkera26 said:
spore prints are purple-brownish, working on good ones.


:shrug:

I'm guessing brown town.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
    #19133381 - 11/13/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

After close inspection I can see what could possibly be some P. stuntzii (mixed with other mushrooms like some Lactarius and Pholiota)

You most definitely have a mixed bag, please get some pics of the spore print and the mushroom which made what you are naming as purple brown print.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: jet li]
    #19133717 - 11/13/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I picked a few different kinds, unfortunately most of my prints from these are more brown than anything, I have a box of random assortments I gather'd I tossed the smaller one's out with dark prints in fear of the poisonous galleria. Which are you thinking could be the stuntzii? God I wish I knew more, the internet only helps so much.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: parkera26]
    #19133734 - 11/13/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's irritating, these seem to bruise, seem to me to fit all Psilocybe cyanescens criteria and bam brown spore print :frown:


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: parkera26]
    #19133750 - 11/13/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i'm not going there without better pics, and sounds like all brown prints so..


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: jet li]
    #19133826 - 11/13/13 10:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm doing more of them, all seem to be brown or darkish brown. I need to get a digital camera, the pictures from my p.o.s phone just don't cut it.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: parkera26]
    #19133835 - 11/13/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I guess this is just further proof to always just listen to Alan Rockefeller lol.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: jet li]
    #19133882 - 11/13/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, I've found that out quickly! I listen to everyone, but im doing this alone and have no buddies with me to verify so its tough.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: parkera26]
    #19134146 - 11/14/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

These are the only one's that have the right print, I found smaller ones as well like you advised yesterday. Spore print is purple brown, they are dry now.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: parkera26]
    #19135073 - 11/14/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If they were psilocybe, it would have purple-black print, not purple-brown. And most likely you will see blue staining, you may want to hold off on eating any of these.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
    #19135134 - 11/14/13 08:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just buy a cheap microscope capable of 400x and do spore lookups if you really want to be sure.

And to save you some effort in the future, ID first and pick later.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: kneesocks]
    #19135191 - 11/14/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well a sample to have in front of you helps. Also finding the spot again, if in the woods could be difficult.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: kneesocks]
    #19135198 - 11/14/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Just buy a cheap microscope capable of 400x and do spore lookups if you really want to be sure.

And to save you some effort in the future, ID first and pick later.




Paid 3.50 for mine at a salvation army. All I had to do was fix the light.Kids scope that goes to 900x. No pics or measuring but good for spore comparisons.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
    #19135217 - 11/14/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I understand that, these little one's are purple-blackish, the one's I thought could be rotting cyans were brownish sadly. I will pay more attention to gills today.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
    #19135221 - 11/14/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

=D

I'm actually using my beginner's microscope that I got for my 13th birthday.


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    #19135236 - 11/14/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Paid 3.50 for mine at a salvation army. All I had to do was fix the light.Kids scope that goes to 900x. No pics or measuring but good for spore comparisons.





You can measure if you borrow or buy a stage micrometer, take a picture of it with each objective, and then take pictures of the things you want to measure.  Download Piximetre and calibrate it with the pic of the stage micrometer, than proceed to accurately measure anything you can see in the future.

The site is in French but the program can run in English too!  All you need to know is that Téléchargez is french for Download.

The cheapest stage micrometer on ebay is $13 -  http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_sop=15&_nkw=stage+micrometer&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1


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=D

I'm actually using my beginner's microscope that I got for my 13th birthday.





The best cheap microscope that works well for mycology is the Amscope b-100ms.

The thing you should check for when getting a cheap scope is the 100x oil objective.  Real microscopes have them, toy scopes don't.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19135283 - 11/14/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19135302 - 11/14/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
Quote:

ZippyHippyinWA said:
Paid 3.50 for mine at a salvation army. All I had to do was fix the light.Kids scope that goes to 900x. No pics or measuring but good for spore comparisons.





You can measure if you borrow or buy a stage micrometer, take a picture of it with each objective, and then take pictures of the things you want to measure.  Download Piximetre and calibrate it with the pic of the stage micrometer, than proceed to accurately measure anything you can see in the future.

The site is in French but the program can run in English too!  All you need to know is that Téléchargez is french for Download.

The cheapest stage micrometer on ebay is $13 -  http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_sop=15&_nkw=stage+micrometer&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1


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kneesocks said:
=D

I'm actually using my beginner's microscope that I got for my 13th birthday.





The best cheap microscope that works well for mycology is the Amscope b-100ms.

The thing you should check for when getting a cheap scope is the 100x oil objective.  Real microscopes have them, toy scopes don't.




VERY cool info Alan, Thank you very much!


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
    #19135308 - 11/14/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I like this one, any comments? http://www.microscopenet.com/40x2000x-binocular-biological-compound-microscope-p-9100.html?gclid=CLaN5rXW5LoCFS8S7Aodb2sAkg





Yes looks good!

If the immersion oil they include smells like cedar, throw it out and order a little bottle of Cargille type A.

You will also need a stage micrometer to calibrate it.

You can try various cameras you have sitting around to take pictures, or order a digital eyepiece.  If you have a DSLR get the adaptor from microscopenet.com.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19135328 - 11/14/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Alan, I want to use a digital camera with it. Sounds much easier to use a built in digital camera.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
    #19135612 - 11/14/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Dont eat those. Not active for sures.


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Re: Found today, hope I've finally done it right. Help I.D. Please! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19135627 - 11/14/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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If the immersion oil they include smells like cedar, throw it out and order a little bottle of Cargille type A.




It will. Since he advent of suitable synthetic oils and adhesives, the world's largest market for canada balsam is probably frustrating new microscopists.

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