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Offline245willow19

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Humans are not mammals * 1
    #19131309 - 11/13/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

"I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague" - Agent Smith. The Matrix.

Woah, to be perfectly honest, he is actually right. Humans are slowly taking away the existence of rare beautiful creatures, it's depressing. No faith in humanity what-so-ever. This is why Aliens won't talk with us


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: 245willow19] * 7
    #19131313 - 11/13/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No. A "mammal" is not an abstract concept. It has a clear definition and humans are mammals


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: 245willow19]
    #19131314 - 11/13/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not *all* humans are like that. There are many indigenous cultures and civilizations out there that live perfectly in harmony with nature, at least until the "1st world" gets involved.


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: kneesocks] * 3
    #19131321 - 11/13/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Non sequitur.

The qualifying factor for being a mammal is not existing in equilibrium with the environment. If this were the case, spiders would be mammals.

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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: mylfgur]
    #19131324 - 11/13/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mylfgur said:

The qualifying factor for being a mammal is not existing in equilibrium with the environment. If this were the case, spiders would be mammals.

/threadover




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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: kneesocks]
    #19131326 - 11/13/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

THE DAMN AGENTS KNOW IF THEY WERE HONEST FROM THE START IT WOULDNT OF GOTTEN LIKE THIS

great quote though...


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: NWlight]
    #19131330 - 11/13/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ofcourse we are mammels, and ofcourse every othe animal or organism (wich you can discuss wether viruses are or aren't) would take advantage of the situation when they could take away the limitations that make other organisms ''live in harmony or balance, or other shitty names, with they're environment''.

it's not a human trait.
they said the same about white people. and that negro's or indian's know how to live in harmony. but as soon as those people meet the ''bad'' way of living, they don't care shit about balance or harmony.


ofcourse i think we should care better for our environment and think long term, but the short term thinking is behaviour that any other organism would display when given the opportunity.


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #19131335 - 11/13/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Humans are a Virus. They kill everything. Look at all the animals we've wiped out Woolly mammomoth, black rhino, dodo etc. Anyway Everything goes extinct naturally, but we're the ones making things go extinct unnaturally by destroying their habitats/over hunting and forcing them to die out.
We are the only animal that kill for pleasure.
But don't worry, we should continue to kill an animal for its horns/fur/bones just for profit so that some utter retard can use it for "medicinal properties" or to wear something that looks fashionable. What the fuck has killing an animal for profit got to do with instincts? Humans revolve around money/power/sex. There's a difference between an animal carrying out its natural behaviours in order to survive, and us who do vile stuff just for the sake of it, or for profit.

And as for the dickheads who decided to start swearing at other people for arguing another point of view, people like you are what happens when brothers and sisters fuck each other.
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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: 245willow19] * 1
    #19131344 - 11/13/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Esekon Kelly said:
Humans are a Virus. They kill everything. Look at all the animals we've wiped out Woolly mammomoth, black rhino, dodo etc. Anyway Everything goes extinct naturally, but we're the ones making things go extinct unnaturally by destroying their habitats/over hunting and forcing them to die out.
We are the only animal that kill for pleasure.
But don't worry, we should continue to kill an animal for its horns/fur/bones just for profit so that some utter retard can use it for "medicinal properties" or to wear something that looks fashionable. What the fuck has killing an animal for profit got to do with instincts? Humans revolve around money/power/sex. There's a difference between an animal carrying out its natural behaviours in order to survive, and us who do vile stuff just for the sake of it, or for profit.

And as for the dickheads who decided to start swearing at other people for arguing another point of view, people like you are what happens when brothers and sisters fuck each other.
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They behave like viruses, that doesn't make them one. Just like a computer is programed to decode information like a human, IT IS NOT A HUMAN. IT CANNOT FEEL. AND FOR THAT, IT WILL NEVER BE HUMAN

Sorry OP I get myself worked up when im forced to think of these things


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #19131352 - 11/13/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

power and money are the form in wich we express the natural instincts, it;s not fundamentally different


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: forrest]
    #19131359 - 11/13/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

and other animals (apes) sometimes kill for pleasure (or so it seems) . i doubt you studied some ethology or you wouldn;t make such statements


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #19131368 - 11/13/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

In what way does a human behave like a virus?


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #19131376 - 11/13/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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KremrBigSikter said:
In what way does a human behave like a virus?



We insert our dna into host cells and use them to replicate ourselves? :rofl:


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: mylfgur]
    #19131383 - 11/13/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mylfgur said:
Non sequitur.

The qualifying factor for being a mammal is not existing in equilibrium with the environment. If this were the case, spiders would be mammals.

/threadover




Yeah the two things really have nothing to do with each other. If something has mammary glands it's a mammal, the classification has nothing at all with how it behaves. Similarly viruses have a pretty strict biological definition that humans do not remotely fit the criteria for.

Humans are definitely not the only animals that screw with their environments and fuck things up for other organisms either, look at beavers.


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: KremrBigSikter] * 1
    #19131389 - 11/13/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)





ERMAHGERD HERMANS ER MERMELS?!


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: 245willow19]
    #19131395 - 11/13/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Esekon Kelly said:

We are the only animal that kill for pleasure.





i had dogs break into my chicken coop, they killed all the chickens and didnt eat even one


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #19131398 - 11/13/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

EK, you are correct in that the species 'Homo sapiens v. sapiens' is taking over the world and molding the enviroment to its own ends.
But not mammals? Do you hate tits and milk?


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: Rockhound]
    #19131464 - 11/13/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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EK, you are correct in that the species 'Homo sapiens v. sapiens' is taking over the world and molding the enviroment to its own ends.
But not mammals? Do you hate tits and milk?



I wasn't neccesarily saying we aren't mammals, but we certainly act like viruses and in my experience, I have never seen any mammal dig up the earth until the bedrock is exposed to get natural resources or deforest lands or empty rivers and lakes, ugh :facepalm:. Other mammals only use want they need, but we seem to be the only creature that is incredibly possessive in which we collect unneeded things and destroy everything in order to multiply or establish outposts or dwellings, whatever


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: 245willow19]
    #19131488 - 11/13/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'd have to agree.  Clearly we are not literally viruses.  But the quote OP posted basically sums up human behavior..


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Re: Humans are not mammals [Re: Herbologist] * 5
    #19131531 - 11/13/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The way humans as a collective treat the planet we live on is unsustainable, brutal and horribly ugly, sure, but if another species could multiply, spread, build and consume like we do, they probably would too. I love animals but I don't think they're inherently more in harmony with nature than we are, it's just that most other species are self-limiting.
I think it's pretty neat that humanity can look at itself and see all the shit they do for what it is though. That means there's a chance of changing it.


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