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Kalypto
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Having some contamination problems
#19130416 - 11/13/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking at a tub today I got yet another with trich
I wanted to outline some things I do to see if maybe thats why
Soak rye
Put on stove cook for 35 min , ( till fully hydrated)
Put in bags
Seal
PC for 3 hours It comes out to about 2 1/2 lbs of spawn per bag after hydrated
NOT in SAB ( maybe the problem) I clean the bag with alcohol , apply silicone , apply tape
Clean again before injection
This time the trich started on the tip of a cut shroom
Did I cut it wrong , Is this cause of house spore count?
Please any help would be awesome ,I have pretty much always had problems with getting trich after the first the first flush
I can never keep a tub going for longer than like 2 1/2 flushes
Infected tubs are thrown out ASAP? AS not to infect others?
Has anyone thought about putting large tyvek patches on tubs ?
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: Kalypto]
#19130430 - 11/13/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can you provide a picture of your "contaminated" substrate?
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Kalypto
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: Icesyn]
#19130447 - 11/13/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah
The first is over all substrate
The second is a close up , I already sprayed some bleach on it
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: Kalypto]
#19130468 - 11/13/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are you sure that's a contamination and not the substrate?
Bruising can happen if a substrate gets damaged or too dry.
Are those bruised stumps what you are calling trich on the right side? Or is that what I'm misidentifying as bruising?
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: Icesyn]
#19130481 - 11/13/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I vote qtip test. If it don't come off it isn't trich. If it does then test is inconclusive.
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: sytar]
#19130507 - 11/13/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quip test is bad info.
Op that might be bruising I wouldn't chuck that tub yet
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: Rubestoad]
#19130523 - 11/13/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im pretty sure that is just bruising... i hope you havent thrown all your projects away because of this. You seem to experienced enough to know all of this...
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Bruised stems where fruits have been cut and purple spores everywhere...can't see any evidence of trich
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Kalypto
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: Skinty]
#19130656 - 11/13/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I bleached the trich area already which changes its color before It was on top of a stump and was green like lime green but a bit diluted
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: Kalypto]
#19130661 - 11/13/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is no trich on your substrate that I can see at 1080p with a 65" monitor, neither spores nor trich myc
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Kalypto
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19130663 - 11/13/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So stump can grow lime green?!
I am so confused
Should have taken a picture prior to that , but I kinda got nervous and sprayed some bleach on it
Right beside the cotton ball is where I bleached you can still see how it is still kinda green
Edited by Kalypto (11/13/13 10:40 AM)
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: Kalypto]
#19130678 - 11/13/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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BRUISING! You are good man. I wouldnt ever spray something i was going to consume with bleach... make sense? But hey just my opinion lol...
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Kalypto
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Its not bruising , I have been growing for over a year I know how to identify trich UNLESS ive been mistaken in believing that mycellium cannot grow LIME GREEN
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: Kalypto]
#19130687 - 11/13/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kalypto said: So stump can grow lime green?!
I am so confused
Should have taken a picture prior to that , but I kinda got nervous and sprayed some bleach on it
Right beside the cotton ball is where I bleached you can still see how it is still kinda green
The stumps are most likely always going to look some shade of blue and green when you cut them.
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: bodhisatta]
#19130703 - 11/13/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cubes bruise anywhere from green to blue.
Trich spores look like a scab over the myc itself, and the smell of trich will overpower your tub too.
Those stumps are bruised, not contaminated.
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19130714 - 11/13/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ive been cultivating for over 10+ years... your stems are going to bruise a bright green to really dark blue. I have never cut my mushies, im not exactly sure why you would.
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Kalypto
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I may have misspoken also I believe the trich was on a abort not a stump cause It was about 3/4 inch long 1/4 inch wide
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FrankHorrigan said: Cubes bruise anywhere from green to blue.
Trich spores look like a scab over the myc itself, and the smell of trich will overpower your tub too.
Those stumps are bruised, not contaminated.
SO it can be BRIGHT LIME GREEN
Regardless this thread was not about if I had trich , I've gotten other tubs where the same thing happens on the mycellium it self , is that from bruising too?
This just happens to be the most recent tub , Do I need to repost this when I have another tub go bad so I can get pictures or can we just move on to the threads topic please
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Casual Cultivator said: Ive been cultivating for over 10+ years... your stems are going to bruise a bright green to really dark blue. I have never cut my mushies, im not exactly sure why you would.
I was always told to cut close to base over twist but please dont let this turn into another topic about that
Edited by Kalypto (11/13/13 11:00 AM)
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Quote:
FrankHorrigan said: Cubes bruise anywhere from green to blue.
Trich spores look like a scab over the myc itself, and the smell of trich will overpower your tub too.
Those stumps are bruised, not contaminated.
trich smells like dirt. dirt smells like dirt because of trich.
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Casual Cultivator said: Ive been cultivating for over 10+ years... your stems are going to bruise a bright green to really dark blue. I have never cut my mushies, im not exactly sure why you would.
When you pull on a fruit you can damage the mycellium network causing it to need to rebuild and damage the localized area enough to dissuade pin formation from that area again. This occurs even with the twist on occasion so why bother. The stumps are good they turn right back into mycellium and new fruits will pop up right on them oftentimes.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (11/13/13 11:06 AM)
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: Kalypto]
#19130740 - 11/13/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know it's hard to tell from pics, but, your bottom holes don't look tightly stuffed. If they are not, then too much air flow can cause drying and weakening of the mycelium. This could lead to the appearance of green around those areas.
I have had it happen to my tubs when I first started monos.
I only bring it up because the darkest and most prominent discoloration seems to be around your poly.
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Kalypto
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Re: Having some contamination problems [Re: SpitballJedi]
#19130752 - 11/13/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi said: I know it's hard to tell from pics, but, your bottom holes don't look tightly stuffed. If they are not, then too much air flow can cause drying and weakening of the mycelium. This could lead to the appearance of green around those areas.
I have had it happen to my tubs when I first started monos.
I only bring it up because the darkest and most prominent discoloration seems to be around your poly.
I think thats from the bleach mainly
But I will check that poly for its density
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