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nbithell
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Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate?
#19128751 - 11/12/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey guys, this is my first post on these forums, i have mostly been a lurker and remain behind the scenes but am looking to expand my mycological knowledge and talking to you all will definitely help. I have been growing cubes for a while now and am looking to start a new experimental grow, that uses a method that does not involve any substrate at all aside from the cake substrate of course. Basically, my fruiting chamber will consist of an empty chamber that has a shelf in the middle that will hold the myc cakes up off of the ground to prevent them from sitting in and standing water. The humidity will be provided by a ultrasonic humidifier and will be controlled to keep the humidity at a constant 95 - 97% by way of a humidity controller. My main goal is to get away with not using any vermiculite, perlite, expanded clay, or any type of casing. I do understand that some may think this is overkill and that shrooms can be grown in a simple sgfc but I enjoy experimenting and have the equipment lying around, so why not, right? Let me know what you guys think.
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: nbithell]
#19128937 - 11/12/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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that uses a method that does not involve any substrate at all aside from the cake substrate of course.
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Basically, my fruiting chamber will consist of an empty chamber that has a shelf in the middle that will hold the myc cakes up off of the ground to prevent them from sitting in and standing water.
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My main goal is to get away with not using any vermiculite, perlite, expanded clay, or any type of casing.

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Let me know what you guys think.
I think this idea is awful.
Sure, you could probably set up cakes in a martha with an ultrasonic and slits in your martha to provide FAE and keep humidity up, but why waste space with cakes?
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19128952 - 11/12/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can you elaborate on why you think the idea is so awful?
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: nbithell]
#19128966 - 11/12/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Because you're going to spend more time, labor, and money setting up a martha than a simple SGFC for cakes. You can reuse perlite forever basically. You don't have to pay for electricity to run your coolmist, you don't have to worry about your RH, you pretty much set it and forget it (thank you Ronco).
Sure, you could set it up, but unless you're doing more than BRF cakes a martha is completely overkill.
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19128993 - 11/12/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The reason I want to try this is because I already have all of the pieces to do so and do not need to expend any other money to do it. What would you use in the martha besides brf cakes? Cased trays?
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: nbithell]
#19129055 - 11/12/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, bulk substrate.....
Spawn the cakes to bulk substrate, or get a PC and spawn grains to bulk substrates.
Or just do set and forget monotubs and let each tub create it's own humidity by itself.
A SGFC is best for just cakes, humidifiers will water log cakes in some cases.
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: PussyFart]
#19129075 - 11/12/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i hate cakes in my gh! never works for more then a flush for me
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: nbithell]
#19129081 - 11/12/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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as long as the conditions are right you should have no problem fruiting the cakes. if you're going to a cake type grow in a martha may i suggest this tek right here.
http://www.shroomery.org/11388/PF-Block-Tek
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: karp]
#19129100 - 11/12/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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karp said: as long as the conditions are right you should have no problem fruiting the cakes. if you're going to a cake type grow in a martha may i suggest this tek right here.
http://www.shroomery.org/11388/PF-Block-Tek
Speaking from experience?
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: karp]
#19129154 - 11/12/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is an awesome method! Thanks. Never thought of doing bricks. Have you fruited cakes in a greenhouse?
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: PussyFart]
#19129177 - 11/12/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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my buddy has a green house set up, and depending on the supplies he has on hand, some times he will do block grows. He gets about 2 or 3 good flushes then, either contams hit or he gets a poor flush. he gets between 5oz-7oz dry weight per block.
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: karp]
#19129198 - 11/12/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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karp said: my buddy has a green house set up, and depending on the supplies he has on hand, some times he will do block grows. He gets about 2 or 3 good flushes then, either contams hit or he gets a poor flush. he gets between 5oz-7oz dry weight per block.
BRF or bulk?
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: PussyFart]
#19129204 - 11/12/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Notahacker, your GH is the exact one I have. Those yields are pretty amazing. May I ask what your yield was per trey dry? Do you not think cakes would do well in such an environment?
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: PussyFart]
#19129220 - 11/12/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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karp said: my buddy has a green house set up, and depending on the supplies he has on hand, some times he will do block grows. He gets about 2 or 3 good flushes then, either contams hit or he gets a poor flush. he gets between 5oz-7oz dry weight per block.
BRF or bulk?
BRF.
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: nbithell]
#19129221 - 11/12/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nbithell said: Notahacker, your GH is the exact one I have. Those yields are pretty amazing. May I ask what your yield was per trey dry? Do you not think cakes would do well in such an environment?
Thinking back it is hard to remember, but maybe like 2-3 ounces per flush...usually 2-3 flushes.
Each tray was the same amount of substrate it would take for a monotub.
And no, I do not think cakes would perform well(enought to be worth the hassle) in a GH.
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Edited by PussyFart (11/12/13 11:17 PM)
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: PussyFart]
#19129259 - 11/12/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It should be said that I do not run a GH anymore.
I find monotubs to be less hassle, with higher yield.
Plus I can fit 10 monotubs in the same space I can fit one GH....

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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: PussyFart]
#19129457 - 11/13/13 12:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn, Hack, this is the first time I've seen these pictures out of you.
Righteous.
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Re: Are there any teks that use no humidifying substrate? [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19129461 - 11/13/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: Damn, Hack, this is the first time I've seen these pictures out of you.
Righteous.
So you have never clicked the first 3 links in my signature or went thru my gallery?!?!?!?!?!
For shame!
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Edited by PussyFart (11/13/13 12:06 AM)
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