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OfflineSprewellSleeve
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When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start?
    #19128562 - 11/12/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It doesn't make sense to me. Wasn't Americans doing those jobs before they did?


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #19128596 - 11/12/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Since America first existed. That exists in every culture which has it better than another culture. We as humans have been importing people from worse-off places to do our shit jobs both as slaves and as paid workers for as long as humans have existed. If the immigrants disappeared, the jobs would still be done but it would damage the economy.


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: Darwin23]
    #19128605 - 11/12/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Let the wars commence.


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: zZZz]
    #19128638 - 11/12/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Illegal immigrants built america.

If i was native I'd be PISSED!

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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: underfliptown]
    #19128754 - 11/12/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

more like "illegal immigrants can't do the jobs we do,"  which is inherently racist lol


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: underfliptown]
    #19128794 - 11/12/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Illyabo said:
more like "illegal immigrants can't do the jobs we do,"  which is inherently racist lol



^^^^^

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underfliptown said:
Illegal immigrants built america.

If i was native I'd be PISSED!

:singletear:




We are, and that single tear guy was a white dude.

I used to work in the field of photojournalism I was on assignment to cover migrant workers in border cities. The people who take those farming jobs are being exploited for cheap labor simply because they are absolutely desperate to earn money to support their family. They get paid very little; under a dollar some days.

That's a 12 hour day picking vegetables in the hot southwest sun for a few quarters.

Do you want that job?


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: healing]
    #19128829 - 11/12/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not sure there was such a thing as illegal immigration either

back in the day the Europeans came over but they were seen as being able to assimilate... that didn't make them citizens or white.


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: Darwin23] * 1
    #19128866 - 11/12/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Darwin23 said:
Since America first existed. That exists in every culture which has it better than another culture. We as humans have been importing people from worse-off places to do our shit jobs both as slaves and as paid workers for as long as humans have existed. If the immigrants disappeared, the jobs would still be done but it would damage the economy.





really? it seems that when US citizens were doing the construction and lawn
care that the economy was better, people were making a 'living wage', a
father could go to work, pay for his home and support his family and the
wife could stay home with the kids.

as it stands this isnt a reality anymore for most americans because cheap
labor has move in, undercut that living wage and they've shipped the money
they earn back to their home countries so that when they decide it's time
to retire they can return home and live comfortably.

how does exporting cash aid the US economy?


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19128911 - 11/12/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Darwin just awoken the pris....I see the demons in hell moving aside already :stoned:


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #19128929 - 11/12/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
Darwin just awoken the pris....I see the demons in hell moving aside already :stoned:





lol... check my ratings, who left the most recent one, I just read it before your post


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19128972 - 11/12/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

really? it seems that when US citizens were doing the construction and lawn
care that the economy was better, people were making a 'living wage', a
father could go to work, pay for his home and support his family and the
wife could stay home with the kids.




Funny, I didn't know inflation was an illegal immigrant.

And you think it's illegal immigrants that own the construction  and lawn care companies? Of course not. Even if it were true that illegal immigrants were 'taking all the jobs and forcing wages down' who would be raking in the rest of the profit? The business owners. The money doesn't just evaporate- Even if workers sent a portion of their pittance wages home, they still have to pay for housing and food while they're here.
This is just a bunch of racist bullshit  anyway.

Migrant
workers pick the crops from our fields. And you better bet we rely on them to do it.


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19129097 - 11/12/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
Darwin just awoken the pris....I see the demons in hell moving aside already :stoned:





lol... check my ratings, who left the most recent one, I just read it before your post






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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: Lynnch]
    #19129115 - 11/12/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ive found that people from other cultures have better work ethics than americans do and a lot of illegal immigrants are willing to do the jobs most americans won't, for half the pay


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: Lynnch]
    #19129455 - 11/13/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Darwin23 said:
Since America first existed. That exists in every culture which has it better than another culture. We as humans have been importing people from worse-off places to do our shit jobs both as slaves and as paid workers for as long as humans have existed. If the immigrants disappeared, the jobs would still be done but it would damage the economy.





really? it seems that when US citizens were doing the construction and lawn
care that the economy was better, people were making a 'living wage', a
father could go to work, pay for his home and support his family and the
wife could stay home with the kids.

as it stands this isnt a reality anymore for most americans because cheap
labor has move in, undercut that living wage and they've shipped the money
they earn back to their home countries so that when they decide it's time
to retire they can return home and live comfortably.

how does exporting cash aid the US economy?



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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19129464 - 11/13/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wish we could keep this political shit out of the Pub.  We got Pris in here doing his tired routine, and then everybody will come in here and state their opinions that aren't based in reality an then it just becomes a shitshow.  I'm out.


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19129480 - 11/13/13 12:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sorry. I failed to see where someone answered my question.

Who in this thread wants to pick vegetables in the hot sun from dawn to dusk for three quarters?


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Edited by healing (11/13/13 12:13 AM)


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: healing]
    #19129481 - 11/13/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

healing said:
I'm sorry. I failed to see where you answered my question.

Who in this thread wants to pick vegetables in the hot sun from dawn to dusk for three quarters?




People who get honest pay for their work.


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19129487 - 11/13/13 12:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
Quote:

healing said:
I'm sorry. I failed to see where you answered my question.

Who in this thread wants to pick vegetables in the hot sun from dawn to dusk for three quarters?




People who get honest pay for their work.




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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19129491 - 11/13/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
Quote:

healing said:
I'm sorry. I failed to see where you answered my question.

Who in this thread wants to pick vegetables in the hot sun from dawn to dusk for three quarters?




People who get honest pay for their work.




Is that how much you value humanity?


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: healing]
    #19129516 - 11/13/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That question doesn't make sense.


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19129540 - 11/13/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
That question doesn't make sense.




The average lifespan is in the seventies. 70 x 365 = 25,550 days.
The person in question works 12 hours each day, that's 0.5 days
If a person worked at this job for their entire life. Every day, even as an infant, they would spend a total of 12,775 days working.
We'll be generous and say they make a dollar a day.
That's $12,775 in their entire life, which is impossible.
So we're looking at less than $12,775.
Is that how much a human life is worth to you?


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: healing]
    #19129544 - 11/13/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

healing said:
Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
That question doesn't make sense.




The average lifespan is in the seventies. 70 x 365 = 25,550 days.
The person in question works 12 hours each day, that's 0.5 days
If a person worked at this job for their entire life. Every day, even as an infant, they would spend a total of 12,775 days working.
We'll be generous and say they make a dollar a day.
That's $12,775 in their entire life, which is impossible.
So we're looking at less than $12,775.
Is that how much a human life is worth to you?




You're misunderstanding what he's saying I think, also most mexican workers make well over $1.00/a day.


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19129553 - 11/13/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

mjmihalov said:
Quote:

healing said:
Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
That question doesn't make sense.




The average lifespan is in the seventies. 70 x 365 = 25,550 days.
The person in question works 12 hours each day, that's 0.5 days
If a person worked at this job for their entire life. Every day, even as an infant, they would spend a total of 12,775 days working.
We'll be generous and say they make a dollar a day.
That's $12,775 in their entire life, which is impossible.
So we're looking at less than $12,775.
Is that how much a human life is worth to you?




You're misunderstanding what he's saying I think, also most mexican workers make well over $1.00/a day.




I'm speaking entirely out of my experience with migrant workers picking vegetables in the southwest United States.


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: healing]
    #19129567 - 11/13/13 12:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've met ~10 illegal workers, all of them make at least a few bucks an hour? this is east coast though I'm talking about though.

I doubt it varies that much, you say they make $0.75 a day, that's bullshit, if that was true why wouldn't they come over here and make ~4+ times that every hour?


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Re: When and how did people thinking "illegal immigrants do work Americans won't" start? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19129789 - 11/13/13 02:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

pretty sure in construction they make ten bucks an hour but they're up at the crack of dawn on the side of the road waiting to get picked up

my friend said explicitly I wouldn't be able to cut it


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