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New guy with a few questions about dose, source, and medicinal benefits.
    #19128140 - 11/12/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hello everyone! To start off, I've been listening to a few podcasts where psychedelics are talked about a lot. Partially for the sustained changes a person can have after a single trip.

My wife was diagnosed with M.S. in 2006. In 2010 she began Medical Marijuana to help her sleep, relax her muscles, and improve her depression. Well while that helps in the muscles and sleep, she still gets depress often and stressed SUPER easily. I'm not even positive that's it's M.S. and not just a horrible stress management system by her body.

Anyway I am thinking of trying to get some psilocybin mushrooms for her to maybe give her a different outlook on life. Possibly re-leave her chronic stress.

Also I am interested in trying to see what I fan find out about myself. I have heard that Terence McKenna said large doses and infrequent is the best practice of use.

What I want to know is actually a few things. Is psilocybin the best choice for what I'm looking to do? How many grams should a first timer take? She's about 135 lbs and I'm 190 lbs. How long does the trip last? Is if idiotic to do it alone? How about with each other while one of us remains sober?


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Re: New guy with a few questions about dose, source, and medicinal benefits. [Re: iil1]
    #19128179 - 11/12/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

moderate dose trips are therapeutic, the key is to enjoy the afterglow and give yourself up to the experience

sometimes you have to face what you dont want to to get past it


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Re: New guy with a few questions about dose, source, and medicinal benefits. [Re: Agentchewy]
    #19128196 - 11/12/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I get it. I have some demons I want to face and get rid of myself. I feel like they are nagging on me. Not sure what makes her so miserable all the time, but I'm hoping for a cure.


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Re: New guy with a few questions about dose, source, and medicinal benefits. [Re: iil1]
    #19128213 - 11/12/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There is no cure, the secret to happiness is progress, Live


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Re: New guy with a few questions about dose, source, and medicinal benefits. [Re: Agentchewy]
    #19129133 - 11/12/13 10:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OP, you shouldn't be discussing this without input from your wife. Show her this post and talk with her about mushrooms. If you can't talk to her about this then you need to reevaluate your marriage.

Mushrooms can help with stress and change the outlook of a person to help them avoid stress in the future. As said above, a moderate dose. Don't expect miracles, it might not help. Everybody is different.


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Re: New guy with a few questions about dose, source, and medicinal benefits. [Re: iil1]
    #19129633 - 11/13/13 01:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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iil1 said:
...What I want to know is actually a few things. Is psilocybin the best choice for what I'm looking to do? How many grams should a first timer take? She's about 135 lbs and I'm 190 lbs. How long does the trip last? Is if idiotic to do it alone? How about with each other while one of us remains sober?




If this is going to be a first time psychedelic experience for both you then I'd suggest one remaining sober. I think it's the smartest & safest approach to the situation.

As far as how long the trip lasts...Most people will be back down or quickly on their way there 4 to 6 hours after the first effects are noticed (generally speaking). Usually with 90 to 120 minutes of "peak" effects.....it really depends on the dose and person, enzymes and metabolism, etc. But most people are coming back down within 4 to 6 hours after "things start happening".


As far as how much?...That totally depends on how deep you want to go. I think it is best for most folks to get their toes or feet wet, even if just once or twice, before diving into the deep end. I usually say 1.5g to 2g (dried) of your average cubensis is a reasonable starting point for anyone that asks me. That's usually a beyond threshold, light dose for most people.







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iil1 said:
Yeah, I get it. I have some demons I want to face and get rid of myself. I feel like they are nagging on me. Not sure what makes her so miserable all the time, but I'm hoping for a cure.




Well these aren't going to "cure" anything by themselves. They can show or help to see things in a new light. But not for everyone. Some people simply just see bright colors, walls breathing, "think weird", and feel weird", and that's about the extent of what they get out of the experience. It takes some will & want to change and intention going into the trip, and applying & integrating such things into daily life after the experience. I mean they can definitely help, and perhaps even bring about changes you never thought of, there's just more to it than eating some mushrooms one night.


How interested is your wife in trying mushrooms?



MDMA is something I also suggest to you to consider. This one has a lot of therapeutic potential for some. One session with mdma at some point before having a psychedelic experience is an approach I recommend to most people that have never had an experience with either of those.

Personal problems, traumas, fears, anxieties, hatred of self and/or others, stress, worries, etc...pretty much everything that stems from "Fear"...with mdma all that tends to melt away, leaving the person with a mental head space that is free of fear or worry, and filled with increased feelings of trust, compassion, understanding, and openness towards others.


Psychedelics can indeed do the same exact thing for some...but mdma has a certain special therapeutic quality about it, along with a calm clear mind, that psychedelics don't always provide. And I say it's nice to deal with those sorts of things first when there is no "fear" attached, compared to having them brought to the surface with all the fear attached in the midst a trip.





.....just my rambling 2 cents.





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