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Gnome_Grown
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I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information!
#19128053 - 11/12/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello and Greetings! I am beyond excited to be here, you see; I went out and traded my belongings for this laptop for the sole purpose of using this site! As ya'll disabled mobile; rude. 
SO! I read I believe "PF Tek" guide I found on rollitup and have followed it; with that being said I have 24 jars currently. ....
So; here are some pictures, input would be appreciated!
I injected my spores on 10/30! So, tomorrow is two weeks, how far along should these be?
they are stored in a 79 degree tent with zero light. What humidity levels are desired for this first stage?



I once saw a post saying if you see green get it away from the other jars and boil it as it is lethal often to other healthy jars; I see a very small amount of green starting on this last guy; pointers? Thoughts?

So; I believe anything worth doing is worth overdoing, with that being said I will be on these forums A LOT asking anything that comes to mind. I love forums! 
Another question: I am supposed to wait until these are SOLID white, correct? So this means I am several weeks out from beginning the next process, right? What is an average time span on this first step?
I thought I had them in optimal conditions, I even tried(and achieved) to get exactly 79 degrees in there as I saw time and time again that this was desired if possible. I have more questions but I will let this rid for a current entry level post; let's see how quick you forum members are! Awh yeah.

Many thanks in advance!
My photos are HUGE!
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: Gnome_Grown]
#19128098 - 11/12/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Step one: helps if you use the short, 8oz wide mouth jars, colonize way faster. welcome!
Your jars look good also!
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Gnome_Grown
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: rawrrock]
#19128120 - 11/12/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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rawrrock said: Step one: helps if you use the short, 8oz wide mouth jars, colonize way faster. welcome!
Your jars look good also!

Yeah, I was just looking at someone else grow and instantly went "DOH!" when I saw the jars..
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: Gnome_Grown]
#19128191 - 11/12/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah. The short wide-mouth half-pints are much better. The talls one stall on a lot of people.
It also looks like you have a layer of perlite at the top. It should be dry vermiculite.
If it's green, I ditch it.
Humidity is not really a factor during this stage.
People are going to tell you that incubating at 79F is not necessary. That is true. If you are comfy in t-shirt and shorts, that's a good temperature for all phases. Anywhere from 70-80 is good.
However, I use an 80F incubator and my house is stays at about 70F.
I can't tell how yours is set up, but the wrong set up can cause more harm than good. This is one reason why they are discouraged.
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: SpitballJedi]
#19128208 - 11/12/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah if it's green I would just toss the whole jar I don't like opening contams in my house. Other than that good job and turn your lids upside down next time.
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: frenchfries]
#19128229 - 11/12/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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frenchfries said: yeah if it's green I would just toss the whole jar I don't like opening contams in my house.
This is why we PC contaminated jars, to kill the spores, so you can open them up and sump them out without wasting a perfectly good glass jar.
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: PussyFart]
#19128238 - 11/12/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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frenchfries said: yeah if it's green I would just toss the whole jar I don't like opening contams in my house.
This is why we PC contaminated jars, to kill the spores, so you can open them up and sump them out without wasting a perfectly good glass jar.
yeah $$$ does get racked up quite a bit and I agree wastefulness is not good. I may possibly just be paranoid.
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Gnome_Grown
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: SpitballJedi]
#19128268 - 11/12/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi said: Yeah. The short wide-mouth half-pints are much better. The talls one stall on a lot of people.
It also looks like you have a layer of perlite at the top. It should be dry vermiculite.
If it's green, I ditch it.
Humidity is not really a factor during this stage.
People are going to tell you that incubating at 79F is not necessary. That is true. If you are comfy in t-shirt and shorts, that's a good temperature for all phases. Anywhere from 70-80 is good.
However, I use an 80F incubator and my house is stays at about 70F.
I can't tell how yours is set up, but the wrong set up can cause more harm than good. This is one reason why they are discouraged.
Stalling is when they are frozen and are done growing; right? are they trash at that point?
I think for this batch I am going to let them continue to go; how long should I let them go before I call it quits on my little mishap.
I am going to cut clean and let them take course; however, my next attempt will be this.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10981397#10981397 or is that a bad idea as I boogered up the easiest of easy? I would be attempting the "true bulk" at the bottom.
Edited by Gnome_Grown (11/12/13 07:36 PM)
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: Gnome_Grown]
#19128423 - 11/12/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Find the user FrankHorrigan and read his journal. Do the same for TranscendingLife and Stromrider. I found them really helpful. If you really want to overdo it, don't hesitate to go straight for grains and a mono. Otherwise you can keep to the jars and make a sgfc. Don't try cute automation schemes you'll likely just do the opposite of what you were intending. The sgfc tek is already pretty much maximally optimized every time people try to make it fancy they make it worse.
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If you're doing bulk....
Stromrider has a good start to finish bulk tek. Def recommend it, though read other things too. Use Frank's pasteurization tek not the bucket tek. And don't case cubes unless your strain is penis envy.
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Edited by sytar (11/12/13 08:09 PM)
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: sytar]
#19128433 - 11/12/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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sytar said: Find the user FrankHorrigan and read his journal. Do the same for TranscendingLife and Stromrider. I found them really helpful. If you really want to overdo it, don't hesitate to go straight for grains and a mono. Otherwise you can keep to the jars and make a sgfc. Don't try cute automation schemes you'll likely just do the opposite of what you were intending. The sgfc tek is already pretty much maximally optimized every time people try to make it fancy they make it worse.
good advice
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: Gnome_Grown]
#19128439 - 11/12/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes. Stalling is when they stop growing. Just let the non=contamed ones run but trash the contamed one.
These are good links for PF Tek/BRF Cakes
Shea25's "PF done Right"
EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes
Let's grow Mushrooms
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Gnome_Grown
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: sytar]
#19130215 - 11/13/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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sytar said: Find the user FrankHorrigan and read his journal. Do the same for TranscendingLife and Stromrider. I found them really helpful. If you really want to overdo it, don't hesitate to go straight for grains and a mono. Otherwise you can keep to the jars and make a sgfc. Don't try cute automation schemes you'll likely just do the opposite of what you were intending. The sgfc tek is already pretty much maximally optimized every time people try to make it fancy they make it worse.
Edit
If you're doing bulk....
Stromrider has a good start to finish bulk tek. Def recommend it, though read other things too. Use Frank's pasteurization tek not the bucket tek. And don't case cubes unless your strain is penis envy.
What is my automation scheme? :O
I will be reading this after work! The main reason I have cubes is I am attempting to help some folk and they asked about Amazonians and Goldens; so upsprouted they came. :]
I am going to start reading that now! I got 25 minutes 
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Is it this you were recommending me towards? http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897163#17897163
Edited by Gnome_Grown (11/13/13 07:19 AM)
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: PussyFart]
#19130239 - 11/13/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your pictures are big.

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Notahacker420 said:
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frenchfries said: yeah if it's green I would just toss the whole jar I don't like opening contams in my house.
This is why we PC contaminated jars, to kill the spores, so you can open them up and sump them out without wasting a perfectly good glass jar.
Dont listen to him, hes a socialist.
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: sytar]
#19130421 - 11/13/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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sytar said: Find the user FrankHorrigan and read his journal.

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sytar said:
people try to make it fancy they make it worse.
thats valid. ive never seen a grow machine that exceeded skill.
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sytar said: And don't case cubes unless your strain is penis envy.
huh?
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: anne halonium]
#19130446 - 11/13/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dunno why Anne hates FrankHorrigan's list of links. I've yet to see Anne Halonium's list of useful teks. She'd probably insist that you only use Violet's teks or something *shrug*. Anyway, Anne is, I think, the user on most people's ignore list here so... I'd ignore her when she face palms FH's journal. I've yet to find a more useful resource but I'm always open to new links if anyone feels like one upping FH's journal.
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anne halonium
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: sytar]
#19130486 - 11/13/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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you already mentioned violet tek, so there ya go.
franks teks are fine, if all ya wanna do is stack manure, flush once and trich.
a trichy easy grow, that gets some, only trumps a more complex RELIABLE grow, when skill and equip are short.
lots of peeps ignore me.it shows in their grows.
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: anne halonium]
#19130822 - 11/13/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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anne halonium
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: cronicr]
#19130857 - 11/13/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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face palming, is not recommended for peeps who mix bulks cronicr. but, its fine for v-tekkers.
thx for bringing that to our attention.
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Edited by anne halonium (11/13/13 11:44 AM)
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: anne halonium]
#19130866 - 11/13/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: I am excited to be here! :D Looking for information! [Re: anne halonium]
#19130881 - 11/13/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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anne halonium said: face palming, is not recommended for peeps who mix bulks cronicr. but, its fine for v-tekkers.
thx for bringing that to our attention.
well it's a good thing it only takes one hand to face palm, ou can use your other hand to hold your spoon and count your "BOOMERS"
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