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Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night
    #19126784 - 11/12/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

http://lostcoastoutpost.com/2013/nov/12/fpd-three-month-old-apartment-hash-lab-explosion-l/


FPD: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night
Kym Kemp / Today @ 6:07 a.m.
 


Fortuna Police Dept. Press Release:

On Monday November 11, 2013 at approximately 2200 hours, the Fortuna Police Department Communications Center received numerous 9-1-1 calls from subjects reporting an explosion at an apartment complex located at 137 12th Street, Fortuna. One caller reported that a “hash lab” had exploded.

A Sergeant with the Fortuna Police Department arrived on scene and located two male subjects who had sustained severe burns to their upper torso’s, arms and heads. Responders from the Fortuna Volunteer Fire Department and City Ambulance arrived within minutes and assisted the injured males. The two injured subjects were identified as Kenneth Nevers of Fortuna and Joseph White of Oakland, both were transported to Redwood Memorial Hospital and later airlifted out of the area for treatment.

Officers were able to locate several subjects who claimed to be within the apartment at the time of the explosion, one of which was a three month old infant. The additional subjects were uninjured.

While officers were checking the apartment, they observed items consistent with a butane process hash extraction lab. They also located the area of the explosion/fire.

This is an open investigation and further details will be released as they become available.


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: LiquidGlass] * 1
    #19126851 - 11/12/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

More dumb fucks making hash oil inside.

According to police it's a "Laboratory".
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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: Heffy]
    #19127139 - 11/12/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah trying to make it sound like a chemical

Try to tell me calling it a lab doesn't immediately conjure up sensationalist news reports about a meth lab exploding or getting busted


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: Chuckfinely]
    #19127396 - 11/12/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Officers were able to locate several subjects who claimed to be within the apartment at the time of the explosion, one of which was a three month old infant. 

So horrible, but a three year old can talk?


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: azur]
    #19127437 - 11/12/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Officers were able to locate several subjects who claimed to be within the apartment at the time of the explosion, one of which was a three month old infant. 

So horrible, but a three year old can talk?



Three year olds generally can talk.

You mean three month old like reported in the article?

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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: mylfgur]
    #19127771 - 11/12/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

is butane hash really that much better than ISO or d-limonene.... ethanol even?      can't wait for CO2 machines to be churning out hash legally nationwide.


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: mylfgur] * 2
    #19127918 - 11/12/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

am i the only one that misread the title and thought a baby exploded?


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: screamphilling] * 1
    #19128113 - 11/12/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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is butane hash really that much better than ISO or d-limonene.... ethanol even?      can't wait for CO2 machines to be churning out hash legally nationwide.





Yes N-butane is king.

99% ISO alcohol is denatured and leaves traceable amounts of residue in oil, never ever use iso alcohol. D-limonene evap is a process by which you evaporate and condense the THC out of BHO into a more concentrated form. You can NOT do a base extraction with D-limonene, it's only used for refinement.  Ethanol has a water content that pulls too much Chlorophyll so again, it's generally only used to refine BHO through winterization or for making RSHO. SCC02 is just too expensive.

N-Butane is hands down the best and easiest non polar solvent to extract the cannabinoids from cannabis. (though obviously not the safest for the extractor)

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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: screamphilling]
    #19128202 - 11/12/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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is butane hash really that much better than ISO or d-limonene.... ethanol even?




Yes. Even cold water is better than those but butane is the best of all.


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: muistrue]
    #19128304 - 11/12/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it tastes great but be careful!


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: muistrue]
    #19128338 - 11/12/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

'Subjects'
Really?

From Wikipedia:
A subject is an individual subjected to the rule by an elite.

Dictionary.com:
being under dominion, rule, or authority, as of a sovereign, state, or some governing power; owing allegiance or obedience


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: Parafaragaramus]
    #19128354 - 11/12/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Archenemy_6 said:
am i the only one that misread the title and thought a baby exploded?




You're not alone... I was kinda having a mini heart attack until I read it lol.

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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: IoRhinz]
    #19128392 - 11/12/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

Archenemy_6 said:
am i the only one that misread the title and thought a baby exploded?




You're not alone... I was kinda having a mini heart attack until I read it lol.

:derp:




That actually happened a few months ago just up the 101 from this one.


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19128483 - 11/12/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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muistrue said:
butane is the best of all.



Quote:

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Yes N-butane is king.

Even 99% ISO alcohol is denatured




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Lies, all horrible lies


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: Dest]
    #19128542 - 11/12/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Whatcha got that's better?


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: Dest] * 1
    #19128553 - 11/12/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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butane is the best of all.



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Yes N-butane is king.

Even 99% ISO alcohol is denatured




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Lies, all horrible lies





Lies? our lab did a 10 gallon evaporation of ("non-denatured") 99% ISO and ended up with a little over 14 grams of white powder (about .1g/oz) . We had this powder tested against a massive list of peroxides and long chain hydrocarbons, which it tested positive for organic peroxides. If you're still going to cry foul, i urge you to go buy some ISO alcohol and evaporate in Pyrex, you'll see what i'm talking about. ISO extracts are not safe for human consumption!!!

Don't spread misinformation please.

Edit: thats not to say N-butane is perfectly clean either. We get 99.9% instrument grade N-Butane from Airgas and we STILL have to distil it to remove the "mystery oil" which is basically a tank lubricant.

In the end, only professional labs should be doing these extractions, it always pains me to see all the loss of life and sadness come from this side of the business.  :baseballfuck:


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: muistrue]
    #19128578 - 11/12/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

oh just some lebanese blond, a chunk of full melt clear dome, some charas.. and this-


All the ISO i get is usp grade, not that Im stupid enough to try and make hash out of it.


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: Dest]
    #19128600 - 11/12/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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oh just some lebanese blond, a chunk of full melt clear dome, some charas..




Lebanese blond and charas are ridden with undesirable plant matter and full melt clear dome is just cold water bubble hash. All inferior to bho.


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: muistrue]
    #19128616 - 11/12/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thread sounds like it was a baby that exploded, thought this was going to be bizzarro-world stuff...

Stupid fuckers doing that around a baby. :sad:


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: muistrue]
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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: Dest]
    #19128692 - 11/12/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: Dest]
    #19128877 - 11/12/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I find very little about charas "undesirable". I find the difficulty of making joints etc with BHO more undesirable than a little bit of entirely natural and fully "organic" (in every sense of the word)plant matter being present in trace amounts. Charas is essentially an oil extract made without petrochemicals.. I know which I'd rather smoke.

The comparison is similar to holding up a decent vintage wine (choose your varietal, region, year etc) to pure ethanol or Everclear etc. One may be stronger, but both will get you drunk and one is a lot more versatile and pleasant. :jah: Really nice sticks/balls/slabs of charas are a thing of beauty.

Not really knocking BHO, but it is apples and oranges in a way.  :2cents:

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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19130455 - 11/13/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not sure what is wrong with dry sift or ice water hash.  Go solventless!


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: muistrue]
    #19131426 - 11/13/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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is butane hash really that much better than ISO or d-limonene.... ethanol even?




Yes. Even cold water is better than those but butane is the best of all.




I think hexane's the best solvent, hexane pulls more and it's even less polar than butane. Steam distilled is the best in general I think.



But more on topic, glad the baby didn't explode. :thumbup:


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: Eminence]
    #19131591 - 11/13/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, exploding babies is bad. mmmkay?


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19132456 - 11/13/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

WHen I first read the title I thought the baby was the one making the hash


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19133418 - 11/13/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why anyone blasts indoors without professional grade lab equipment is beyond me. Unless I have solvent-safe vacuums, a home interior is a fire hazard waiting to happen. TV's, lights, ovens, etc. can all make a spark. Even if you set fire blasting outside, the pressure isn't built up like inside.

Blasting BHO indoors = house sized bomb.


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: Godfather1376]
    #19133646 - 11/13/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You're totally right there with the not blasting inside. Even more so, im glad you brought up solvent specific pumps because I had a little miss hap recently with a regular H-vac pump in the lab.

It was late one night and we were trying to finish up this GDP x SWOG nug run.I was being a dimwit and  couldn't be bothered to wait for all the butane to move to the cold trap from the holding tank. When i opened the catch tank there was still about a liter of liquid N-tane in the bottom which i decided to throw in the desiccator anyway to vac. Once the vac hit 15hg the pump started to sound funny and then BOOM!! black smoke started billowing from the exhaust port. Turns out the butane condensed into the pump oil, ignited and caught the pump oil on fire. My colleague practically jumped out the second story window when the lab fire extinguishing system went off, basically flooding the whole second story with white foam.

After that, we invested in laboratory molecular pumps that exhaust solvents into a separate container instead of through the pumps oil.


Since its croptober just ended, you're going to see much more of these explosions on the news with idiots attempting to concentrate their yields.


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19133652 - 11/13/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Even 99% ISO alcohol is denatured and leaves traceable amounts of residue in oil, never ever use iso alcohol.





How do you know that and how do you know that the alleged denaturing ingredients don't also evap out?

Isopropyl alcohol is denatured? I thought denaturing was used for ethanol to prevent people from drinking it. People don't drink isopropyl alcohol.


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    #19133663 - 11/13/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah that doesn't make sense. No reason to denature Iso when it's already poisonous to ingest. I've never had residue left behind from Iso, no matter how diluted.


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    #19133766 - 11/13/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Even 99% ISO alcohol is denatured and leaves traceable amounts of residue in oil, never ever use iso alcohol.





How do you know that and how do you know that the alleged denaturing ingredients don't also evap out?

Isopropyl alcohol is denatured? I thought denaturing was used for ethanol to prevent people from drinking it. People don't drink isopropyl alcohol.





Read my post about when we evaporated  10 gallons of 99% pure ISO alcohol and got 14 grams of white powder in return, which 2 labs (The Wecshop and SC labs) tested positive for peroxides and traces of diisopropyl ether (you don't want to be dabbing those compounds)

When i'm referring to specifically denatured ISO, im talking acetone/ethanol-ISO, and when i say 99% iso is denatured, im saying its not safe for human consumption. Hell, ISO is a denaturing agent itself.
You are right that they denature ethanol by adding methanol to it so people cant drink it (makes you go blind). At the same time, one can also purchase a mix of acetone,thanol and ISO which is specifically used for industrial cleaning and is labeled as SD-ISO which stands for "Specifically Denatured Iso", which is the reason i used the terminology in the first place. I've never actually seen it in person, I was simply using it as a reference.  :wink:


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19141005 - 11/15/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Is ISO from a lab environment adulterated in any way? We huffed some from rags when we were drunk as skunks a few years ago, it gives a 10-15 minute sloppy, hilarious type drunkenness..

I get all my ISO from genetics labs (family all work in sciences) I have bottles of the stuff I use for cleaning and decontaminating various things, never been sure if it would be safe to drink if diluted a reasonable amount... Not planning to, just curious. I'll stick to my 8%+ ciders, wine and decent whiskey. :tongue:

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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19453052 - 01/21/14 01:52 PM (10 years, 9 days ago)

By the way, funkerdslr, how do you feel about Klean-Strip naptha (in terms of using it as a reagent)?


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: s240779]
    #19453070 - 01/21/14 01:55 PM (10 years, 9 days ago)

Idk why but naphtha always makes shitty oil for me even if it's chilled, I always have to use other solvents to clean it up. You should look into n-hexane, it's the best non polar solvent to use for concentrates. Takes a whle longer to evaporate than butane, but if you're looking at naphtha as an option I'd definitely say go for hexane.


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Re: Baby in the Fortuna Apartment that Exploded During Hash Making Last Night [Re: Eminence]
    #19453085 - 01/21/14 01:59 PM (10 years, 9 days ago)

I'm actually asking for my planned DMT extraction.


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