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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: badchad] * 2
    #19126481 - 11/12/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You can ignore the fact that are many men out there that feel violated and are furious with their parents for mutilating them all you wish, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

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And a member mentioned earlier in this very thread that they believed circumcision lessens the risk of getting an STD. People still buy into that outrageous claim, believe it or not.





That's because there are plenty of data on the subject.  Perhaps one of the most well-known studies was the randomized trial that appeared in the Lancet (a highly regarded medical journal) which reported the association.

And were you to actually examine the data, similar results have been reported in repeated clinical trials.




:facepalm: That study has been refuted.

Furthermore, teaching young men to wear condoms until their partners are tested and cleared for disease rather than amputating a piece of their penis to minutely lower the risk of contracting an STD is a far more practical approach to disease prevention.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: Lynnch]
    #19126483 - 11/12/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”




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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: hidenseek1] * 4
    #19126538 - 11/12/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

my son is whole and will probably experience greater sexual activity and do the same for the girl he loves. just keep it clean, easy as pie!


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: rohr]
    #19126557 - 11/12/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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:facepalm: That study has been refuted.





Really?  I'd love to read the rebuttal.  Go ahead and link us to it.

Also find the rebuttal to a similar study that found the same thing.  Or this study, orthis study.  Or any of the dozens of clinical trials, that have found the exact same thing?

Or is a facepalm graemlin the only support you can muster?


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: passifloracaerulea] * 1
    #19126564 - 11/12/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

could you ever possibly circumsize your daughter? I have a daughter and i'd kill if someone did that to her. and i'd kill billions of sick humans. I have some of the most pure Viking blood left on the planet. nestruud if you must know.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19126571 - 11/12/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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my son is whole and will probably experience greater sexual activity




Where did this assumption come from?


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: st1llnox] * 1
    #19126583 - 11/12/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19126592 - 11/12/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

seriously does any dude know what the clitoris is for? there's foreplay then sex, but pull out if kid not wanted and ride the clitoris. how can dudes be so fucking stupid to overpopulate our planet and not understand basic human sexuality?!!!


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19126601 - 11/12/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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seriously does any dude know what the clitoris is for? there's foreplay then sex, but pull out if kid not wanted and ride the clitoris. how can dudes be so fucking stupid to overpopulate our planet and not understand basic human sexuality?!!!





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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19126615 - 11/12/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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my son is whole and will probably experience greater sexual activity




Where did this assumption come from?



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my son is whole and will probably experience greater sexual activity and do the same for the girl he loves. just keep it clean, easy as pie!



at least quote my whole idea. jeesh!


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19126616 - 11/12/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: Lynnch]
    #19126626 - 11/12/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I meant when they take baby girls, like they do sometimes when they are several weeks old. Also in part of my comment I specified that it was in fgm's that remove only outer tissue, specifically the clitoral prepuce. And on a final point, many religions require fgm, but it is illegal, who cares if you offend someone when in doing so you offer the power of choice




Well if it's his friend and he was invited to the wedding or the baby shower, he might care. This is not some random person over a message board, he stated that this was his friend.

If it's prepuce only and not prepuce and partial clitoral removal on an infant, I don't view it as nearly as bad as the other types of female circumcision (removal of the clitoris and labia) that are more commonly practiced in like Ethiopia. Not to mention, the surgical techniques they use are barbaric (1 razor to cut 30 girls, and sometimes even FINGERNAILS are used in the process of circumcision).

I know that Islam actually allows prepuce only circumcisions on females, although the Q'oran specifies that the entire clitoris be removed. The thing is, you referred to "female genital mutilation" which refers mostly to extreme types of female circumcision. When professionals are referring to removal of the clitoral hood only they will mostly refer to it as female circumcision.



OK, but on a related note, the methods used to perform circumcision often involve a pliers and ripping.
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It's not really your business whether or not your friends baby gets the snip.

Give him your opinion, but don't preach.






Also, I'm snipped and I'm damn glad I am. I always thought uncircumcised wieners look fucking weird, but that's most likely because I'm accustomed to my Own. Beautiful. Penis.

I've heard stories of botched circumcisions where like if the guy gets a boner and the skin is snipped way to much it actually hurts or whatever, yeah that would most defiantly suck.

So I duno weather getting snipped or not is right or wrong, I got my own problems to concern myself with. Like finding a girlfriend and getting laid, I haven't been laid since last december man :okay:

Mostly I just want someone I can connect with and stuff, so yeah I'm more concerned with that then what some random decides about snipping his kid or not :shrug:



I'm circumcised and Im pissed about it.
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Everyone here who hates their parents for mutilating them raise your hand...

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Yea, that's what I thought.
I was pretty pissed as a kid when my mom mutilated me by trimming my toenails, but apparently I've grown accustomed to the idea that humans can change their appearance with tools.



Got it I'll just cut the glans of too, cause its prettier.
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my son is whole and will probably experience greater sexual activity




Where did this assumption come from?



In case you know absolutely nothing about human genital anatomy, The foreskin's rolling motion is considered to strongly increase sexual pleasure felt by the woman, and as for the male the foreskin performs several functions, first it keeps the glans shiny  smooth and sensitive, did you know the glans aren't just skin but a mucous membrane? You would never know this looking at a circumcised dick. Second the foreskin contains two structures, the ridged band and the frenulum, that are filled with special nerves called meissner's corpuscles that provide stimulation in response to light touch and a very large amount of pleasure. Men who are circumcised as adult rate sex when they were whole as a 10/10 and circumcised sex as a 3/10.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19126629 - 11/12/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i had been married for 5 years and it all worked???


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19126633 - 11/12/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I guess that argument actually settles it then, because if OP wants to convince his friend not to have his baby circumcised, all he has to say is:

If your son is not whole he will probably experience lesser sexual activity and won't please the girl he loves.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: rohr]
    #19126635 - 11/12/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not saying it's super difficult to keep clean, but it does involve an extra step to get clean.

And yeah like one or two people in here may think that, that's not a high percentage. I've never researched it myself, but personally IDC, that's what condoms are for.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: TrentBoyett] * 1
    #19126666 - 11/12/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm not saying it's super difficult to keep clean, but it does involve an extra step to get clean.

And yeah like one or two people in here may think that, that's not a high percentage. I've never researched it myself, but personally IDC, that's what condoms are for.



Its as difficult as occasionally showering, kinda like not smelling of BO also involves washing on occasion.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: TrentBoyett] * 1
    #19126673 - 11/12/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I know multiple women who do not like uncircumcised penises, they won't give a guy with one a bj for sure, and a few won't even have sex if the guy is uncut.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19126681 - 11/12/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm not saying it's super difficult to keep clean, but it does involve an extra step to get clean.

And yeah like one or two people in here may think that, that's not a high percentage. I've never researched it myself, but personally IDC, that's what condoms are for.



Its as difficult as occasionally showering, kinda like not smelling of BO also involves washing on occasion.




No, it's more difficult than  occasionally showering, because it's showering along with an extra step, I'm not saying the extra step is hard, but it's an extra step nonetheless.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19126683 - 11/12/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)


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I know multiple women who do not like uncircumcised penises, they won't give a guy with one a bj for sure, and a few won't even have sex if the guy is uncut.



Thats probably because where they live circumcised is normal, and if genitals are not "normal" there gross.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: passifloracaerulea] * 2
    #19126685 - 11/12/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

In case you know absolutely nothing about human genital anatomy, The foreskin's rolling motion is considered to strongly increase sexual pleasure felt by the woman, and as for the male the foreskin performs several functions, first it keeps the glans shiny  smooth and sensitive, did you know the glans aren't just skin but a mucous membrane? You would never know this looking at a circumcised dick. Second the foreskin contains two structure, the ridged band and the frenulum, that are filled with special nerves called meissner's corpuscles that provide stimulation in response to light touch and a very large amount of pleasure. Men who are circumcised as adult rate sex when they were whole as a 10/10 and circumcised sex as a 3/10.



this really bums me out...


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