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OfflineMush4Brains
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Republicans love our veterans.
    #19124699 - 11/12/13 02:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh wait, no they don't.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/11/veterans-food-stamp-cuts-republicans-snap

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Republicans will salute America's veterans Monday, while simultaneously trying to deny them benefits. In addition to reducing housing aid, and denying health care to vets, the GOP is also trying to remove thousands of vets from the food stamp program, known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP.

At least 900,000 veterans rely on SNAP. The House Republican version of the farm bill, the five-year piece of legislation that funds nutrition and agriculture provisions, would slash funding for the food stamps program by nearly $40 billion and boot 2.8 million people off the program next year. That includes 170,000 veterans, who would be removed through a provision in the bill that would eliminate food stamps eligibility for non-elderly jobless adults who can't find work or an opening in a job training program.
CHARTS: The Hidden Benefits of Food Stamps.

Veterans returning home from service have more trouble finding work than other folks, and rely more heavily on the food stamp program. The unemployment rate for recent veterans—those who have served in the past decade—is about 10 percent, almost 3 points above the national unemployment rate. War-related disabilities are one reason why. About a quarter of recent veterans reported service-related disabilities in 2011. Households that have a disabled veteran who is unable to work are twice as likely to lack access to sufficient food than households without a disabled service member, according to the nonprofit Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

This month, SNAP funding was reduced by $5 billion as extra stimulus money for the program expired. While the Senate will never approve the $40 billion in further cuts to the food stamps program that House Republicans want, deeper cuts are pretty much inevitable. The two chambers are in the middle of negotiating a final version of the farm bill, which will contain food stamp reductions somewhere in between the $4 billion level the Senate wants and the level the Republicans want.

Whatever the final number, veterans will likely feel the pinch.




Why do the "Pro Life" conservatives in the House want to kick veterens off of SNAP and food stamp benefits?  I thought the GOP was supposed to be the pro-troop and pro-veteran party?

Let's not that veteran suicide rates have increased at 2.6% per year since 2005, either.

I guess it make sense that congress hates veterans, even though they claim to support them, as veterans in Congress is as an all time low since WWII.

Although we have huge numbers of Afghanistan/Iraq war vets coming back from combat, the VA can't seem to keep up.

Now that Obama has claimed that he will try to up support for veterans, will the sheisty GOP try and sabotage him once again, for nothing more than political gain?


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19124827 - 11/12/13 03:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Vets got it ruff man. My buddy has bad veins in his legs after a diving acident, and the VA wanted to fucking cut off his legs! He went to another doc and he told him to just suppress wrap them two hours a day and he'll be fine. Ugggg. VA = chop chop


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OfflineKiya_Star427
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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: huffinglue]
    #19125098 - 11/12/13 05:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

V/A = death care.

Yeah Republicans are so pro-life but want soldiers to go die in wars for profit gains and Democrats also want soldiers to go off at corporate wars, but at least they don't pretend to love the troops and veterans while putting them on DHS domestic terrorist lists.

Source:
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/16/napolitano-stands-rightwing-extremism/#ixzz2kR3NVHwU
Napolitano: "stands be report labeling returning Veterans as domestic terrorists"



If you look at the issue veterans are labeled domestic terrorists, b/c they are the only people that can protect the American civilians during something like a total collapse of society through debt, taxes...


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19125141 - 11/12/13 06:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Oh wait, no they don't.






"I loathe all things military..."  Bill Clinton. :smirk:


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19125632 - 11/12/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh wait your post has to do with incompetent losers of all walks of life not veterans. Why am I not shocked by your dishonesty


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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19125692 - 11/12/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Income tax was created to fund war efforts .  The top rate was at 70% For ww1 and 90 % at the end of ww2 up till the 60s. Raising taxes can serve a very important purpose. When we went to war in Iraq the 2nd time and Afghanistan after 911 we should have raised taxes on everyone and the top rate should have went to 90% the moment we declared war. Just imagine how quickly we would have been in and out and accomplished our objective. You know if we all had to make sacrafices with our soldiers when they go to war rather than just leaving the burden solely for them. When Bush landed on that carrier and proclaimed WE WON! that would have been the end of it, rather than 10 more years of bullshit we didnt have to feel the pain of paying for.

You cannot claim to love our military and then turn around and pledge to never raise taxes.  Thats two faced stupidity destined for history books.


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OfflineMush4Brains
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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Kiya_Star427]
    #19126221 - 11/12/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Kiya_Star427 said:
V/A = death care.

Yeah Republicans are so pro-life but want soldiers to go die in wars for profit gains and Democrats also want soldiers to go off at corporate wars, but at least they don't pretend to love the troops and veterans while putting them on DHS domestic terrorist lists.

Source:
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/16/napolitano-stands-rightwing-extremism/#ixzz2kR3NVHwU
Napolitano: "stands be report labeling returning Veterans as domestic terrorists"



If you look at the issue veterans are labeled domestic terrorists, b/c they are the only people that can protect the American civilians during something like a total collapse of society through debt, taxes...




The Washington Times is owned by the Moonie Cult.  I will never give them a single page view.


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Simplicitry]
    #19126235 - 11/12/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Simplicitry said:
Oh wait your post has to do with incompetent losers of all walks of life not veterans. Why am I not shocked by your dishonesty




How do you figure?  170,000 veterans would lose food benefits if the GOP had their way.

I mean, after all that posturing (see here, and here as well), I thought they were the party that fights for our vets?


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19126318 - 11/12/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Both parties support veterans on the surface and use them as political tools to exploit the emotions of fools who are so easily emotionaly manipulated into an agenda.

Now cutting aid (charity that they are no way entilted to, it can be legally cut and only exists because of generousity) to shiftless morons from all walks of life across the board? That's a different subject all together isn't it?


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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

"Islam in a man is worse then rabies in a dog"


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Simplicitry]
    #19126363 - 11/12/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You can't separate these two things, however.  Their proposed legislation may take away these benefits from the "shiftless morons," but will impact 170,000 veterans.


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InvisibleSimplicitry
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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19126383 - 11/12/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I am a veteran, and I know first hand that military personnel, just like any other segment of the population, as many good people and then its share of worthless people. They range from a guy who just barely made it into the army to avoid criminal conviction, to a bright young kid using it to kick start his life with a decent paying job with the best health insurance and free education available, to a more matured adult getting a commission with their Bachelors degree. And all those people's outcomes will vary on their particular circumstances, not the least of which being their intelligence level and their work ethics.

Your silly plea to emotion doesn't work on the intelligent
"Will somebody please think of the childen! Wait I mean veterans!"  :laugh2:


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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

"Islam in a man is worse then rabies in a dog"


Edited by Simplicitry (11/12/13 02:09 PM)


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Simplicitry]
    #19126402 - 11/12/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So you bring intelligence level into discussion, why should innate intelligence be a barrier to being fed and having a place to live?


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19126414 - 11/12/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
You can't separate these two things, however.  Their proposed legislation may take away these benefits from the "shiftless morons," but will impact 170,000 veterans.




Actually I can seperate the two. It's you who can't. I suspect it because that's because that doesn't fit well in your wet dreams with Democrats and their nanny-state agenda


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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

"Islam in a man is worse then rabies in a dog"


Edited by Simplicitry (11/12/13 02:46 PM)


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Simplicitry]
    #19126431 - 11/12/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure if you know what nanny state actually means.  I don't think providing for the sick, poor, unemployed and elderly qualifies as a nanny state.

I am against most "nanny state" policies.


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19126484 - 11/12/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
So you bring intelligence level into discussion, why should innate intelligence be a barrier to being fed and having a place to live?




You really do understand why, in the real world, the village idiot can't earn as much money and obtain the same quality of life as, oh I don't know let's say, a genius in engineering. I really don't have to explain that right? Because that would be fucking ridiculous.

BTW when last I checked the stupid, the retarded, the disabled, and the lazy were getting better care in the modern western world then at any other time or place in history


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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

"Islam in a man is worse then rabies in a dog"


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19126510 - 11/12/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
I'm not sure if you know what nanny state actually means.  I don't think providing for the sick, poor, unemployed and elderly qualifies as a nanny state.

I am against most "nanny state" policies.




I understand perfectly what it means


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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

"Islam in a man is worse then rabies in a dog"


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Simplicitry]
    #19126527 - 11/12/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You obviously don't.


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Simplicitry]
    #19126580 - 11/12/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
You obviously don't.



I obviously do :laugh2: Very enlightening and intriguing discussion points you bring to the table.

I don't suppose their any chance of getting you to address this post

Quote:

Simplicitry said:
You really do understand why, in the real world, the village idiot can't earn as much money and obtain the same quality of life as, oh I don't know let's say, a genius in engineering. I really don't have to explain that right? Because that would be fucking ridiculous.

BTW when last I checked the stupid, the retarded, the disabled, and the lazy were getting better care in the modern western world then at any other time or place in history




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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

"Islam in a man is worse then rabies in a dog"


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Simplicitry]
    #19126605 - 11/12/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Who says I want "the village idiot" to have the same quality of life as an engineer?

Who cares if they're "getting better care" than "at any other time or place in history."  If there is room to improve, there is room to improve.

So now, tell me what your idea of a nanny state is.


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Re: Republicans love our veterans. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19126838 - 11/12/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
Quote:

Simplicitry said:
Oh wait your post has to do with incompetent losers of all walks of life not veterans. Why am I not shocked by your dishonesty




How do you figure?  170,000 veterans would lose food benefits if the GOP had their way.




I do not recall the GI Bill to include guaranteed food for life


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