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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: pwnasaurus] * 1
    #19125816 - 11/12/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I disagree that 30% makes something the "norm".



Less than 30% of the population is gay...does that make them abnormal?  Less than 30% of the population has blue eyes...are they abnormal?

You seem to have a strange view of normal.



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30% is not "standard".  Neither is being gay.  Is it "normal"?  Well that's a different question.




Personally, I think that if a third of the general population engages in a certain activity, it most definitely makes it normal simply because are very large percentage of the population would know somebody that engages in that certain activity if they do not do it themselves.

My threshold for normal describing something as normal would be below 5%. Take for example Kayaking. The percentage of people who does it is very small but it is a completely normal thing to do. Mountain climbing on the other is not a very common practice and most of us don't personally know a mountain climber. Therefore I classify the activity as abnormal/unusual/original (which ever word you want to use to describe it)


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: pwnasaurus] * 1
    #19125817 - 11/12/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Your statement was false, dude...You said:

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No, it is not the norm pretty much anywhere in the world except the USA,





The fact is that it is the norm in parts of the world other than the USA.  62% of males in Africa are circumcised. A higher percentage are circumcised in Muslim countries. 

If you're going to make false statements, you shouldn't be calling other people ignorant while you do it.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19125819 - 11/12/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Doctors cut it off? I thought the skin just fell off over time. Like the umbilical cord


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #19125832 - 11/12/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Your statement was false, dude...You said:

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No, it is not the norm pretty much anywhere in the world except the USA,





The fact is that it is the norm in parts of the world other than the USA.  62% of males in Africa are circumcised. A higher percentage are circumcised in Muslim countries. 

If you're going to make false statements, you shouldn't be calling other people ignorant while you do it.



Pretty much != 100%


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: pwnasaurus] * 1
    #19125837 - 11/12/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Africa is a huge portion of the world...and muslims are a large portion of the population.  Australia also has more circumcised than uncircumcised...

You were lying dude...admit it already.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #19125852 - 11/12/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Yet another false statement.

Are you intentionally lying just to convince someone of something?  Or are you just so ignorant and unaware that you can't help yourself?



Are you seriously telling me that saying pretty much is that same thing as saying 100% of the time?  That is absolutely incorrect.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19125866 - 11/12/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No, I'm saying that you made a false statement.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: Enlil]
    #19125930 - 11/12/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Percentages have nothing to do with anything being normal.

I'm pretty sure a large percentage of the population thinks they'll be happier when they have more money. I don't regard that as normal however.

Normal means it's in accordance with your belief system.

If you want to talk percentages you'd probably be better of talking about common instead of normal.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: underfliptown] * 1
    #19126087 - 11/12/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It's not really your business whether or not your friends baby gets the snip.

Give him your opinion, but don't preach.






Also, I'm snipped and I'm damn glad I am. I always thought uncircumcised wieners look fucking weird, but that's most likely because I'm accustomed to my Own. Beautiful. Penis.

I've heard stories of botched circumcisions where like if the guy gets a boner and the skin is snipped way to much it actually hurts or whatever, yeah that would most defiantly suck.

So I duno weather getting snipped or not is right or wrong, I got my own problems to concern myself with. Like finding a girlfriend and getting laid, I haven't been laid since last december man :okay:

Mostly I just want someone I can connect with and stuff, so yeah I'm more concerned with that then what some random decides about snipping his kid or not :shrug:


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: dontknow]
    #19126135 - 11/12/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Have yet to see a circumcised person complain about being circumcised. It's always the uncircumcised ones that seem to have some problem with it.






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Mountain climbing on the other is not a very common practice and most of us don't personally know a mountain climber. Therefore I classify the activity as abnormal/unusual/original (which ever word you want to use to describe it)




i know a mountain climber, visit alberta some time


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Doctors cut it off? I thought the skin just fell off over time. Like the umbilical cord





when i was in middle school, a (east)indian friend of mine said he heard the tip falls off after sex, and ask me if this is true

me being circumcised not knowing the difference between circumcised and not, thought he meant like the head, i just shuttered and said i dont know


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: st1llnox]
    #19126155 - 11/12/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Man... awkward and weird subject.

It'd be one thing if it were like when I was born with over 80% of babies getting snipped... but...

It's a minority now. And it's not as though the disadvantaged get anything cool to compensate with. My friend has a baby boy due any day now.

So, here's the question: do you guys think I should or shouldn't ask him to NOT circumcise his baby boy?



Again, it'd be something totally different if that were the "norm" right now/the boy would be in the majority for being cut. That said, that's not the case and I'm wondering if I should chime in. :shrug:


AAaaaawwwkward.....




If it were my friend, I would ask if they are going to choose to circumcise him. If your friend says yes, ask him why. When he gives you all the false beliefs that make people want to mutilate their sons (cleaner, lessens the chances of getting AIDS, etc.) fill him in with the facts. But do it politely. And if he gets offended, just reassure him you are only looking out for what's best for the child because you care and have done research on the subject and just want to make sure he doesn't make an uninformed decision that will affect the poor baby for the rest of his life.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: rohr] * 1
    #19126189 - 11/12/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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If it were my friend, I would ask if they are going to choose to circumcise him. If your friend says yes, ask him why. When he gives you all the false beliefs that make people want to mutilate their sons (cleaner, lessens the chances of getting AIDS, etc.) fill him in with the facts. But do it politely. And if he gets offended, just reassure him you are only looking out for what's best for the child because you care and have done research on the subject and just want to make sure he doesn't make an uninformed decision that will affect the poor baby for the rest of his life.




You sound like you regard snipping as a bad thing.

Everyone I know who is curcumcised (including myself) wouldn't have it any other way.

I even got circumcised when I was relatively old and I still love it.

This horrification seems to be typical for uncircumcised people.

I guess men are just inclined to love their dick, wether it's snipped or not.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: The5thElement]
    #19126193 - 11/12/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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If it were my friend, I would ask if they are going to choose to circumcise him. If your friend says yes, ask him why. When he gives you all the false beliefs that make people want to mutilate their sons (cleaner, lessens the chances of getting AIDS, etc.) fill him in with the facts. But do it politely. And if he gets offended, just reassure him you are only looking out for what's best for the child because you care and have done research on the subject and just want to make sure he doesn't make an uninformed decision that will affect the poor baby for the rest of his life.




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Also, I'm snipped and I'm damn glad I am. I always thought uncircumcised wieners look fucking weird, but that's most likely because I'm accustomed to my Own. Beautiful. Penis.

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I'm accustomed to my Own. Beautiful. Penis.

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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: The5thElement]
    #19126199 - 11/12/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: rohr] * 1
    #19126219 - 11/12/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Man... awkward and weird subject.

It'd be one thing if it were like when I was born with over 80% of babies getting snipped... but...

It's a minority now. And it's not as though the disadvantaged get anything cool to compensate with. My friend has a baby boy due any day now.

So, here's the question: do you guys think I should or shouldn't ask him to NOT circumcise his baby boy?



Again, it'd be something totally different if that were the "norm" right now/the boy would be in the majority for being cut. That said, that's not the case and I'm wondering if I should chime in. :shrug:


AAaaaawwwkward.....




If it were my friend, I would ask if they are going to choose to circumcise him. If your friend says yes, ask him why. When he gives you all the false beliefs that make people want to mutilate their sons (cleaner, lessens the chances of getting AIDS, etc.) fill him in with the facts. But do it politely. And if he gets offended, just reassure him you are only looking out for what's best for the child because you care and have done research on the subject and just want to make sure he doesn't make an uninformed decision that will affect the poor baby for the rest of his life.




Getting circumsised is cleaner, maybe not substantially but it is a little cleaner, and I doubt to many people are really that stupid that they think having a foreskin increasing you're chance of getting aids.

I am circumsized and I'm happy about it.

It is not OPs place to even be worrying about this or to bring it up honestly.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: TrentBoyett] * 1
    #19126243 - 11/12/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know why people get so butthurt over circumcision on boys, on girls I can see why because there is literally no reason for such a thing to take place.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: TrentBoyett] * 2
    #19126329 - 11/12/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Goldeneye, 5thelement, I'm really happy for you that you don't mind that a piece of your penis was cut off when you were born. Whether males are happy with their penis no matter what, or whether it's some reaction to protect themselves psychologically from the torment of knowing they are mutilated, it doesn't really matter because you are happy and that's great. A lot of males are extremely unhappy that they were put through the procedure, it's really very sad and a very unfortunate side effect. So you guys are lucky that you can live with and cope with it just fine.

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Man... awkward and weird subject.

It'd be one thing if it were like when I was born with over 80% of babies getting snipped... but...

It's a minority now. And it's not as though the disadvantaged get anything cool to compensate with. My friend has a baby boy due any day now.

So, here's the question: do you guys think I should or shouldn't ask him to NOT circumcise his baby boy?



Again, it'd be something totally different if that were the "norm" right now/the boy would be in the majority for being cut. That said, that's not the case and I'm wondering if I should chime in. :shrug:


AAaaaawwwkward.....




If it were my friend, I would ask if they are going to choose to circumcise him. If your friend says yes, ask him why. When he gives you all the false beliefs that make people want to mutilate their sons (cleaner, lessens the chances of getting AIDS, etc.) fill him in with the facts. But do it politely. And if he gets offended, just reassure him you are only looking out for what's best for the child because you care and have done research on the subject and just want to make sure he doesn't make an uninformed decision that will affect the poor baby for the rest of his life.




Getting circumsised is cleaner, maybe not substantially but it is a little cleaner, and I doubt to many people are really that stupid that they think having a foreskin increasing you're chance of getting aids.

I am circumsized and I'm happy about it.

It is not OPs place to even be worrying about this or to bring it up honestly.




It's a myth that circumcised penis is not as clean, or not as easy to clean than an intact one, my friend. If you don't wash ANY part of your body on a regular basis, it's going to get nasty. That doesn't mean you should amputate that body part. It's lunacy to think that amputation is a reasonable reaction to the thought that "oh, it might get dirty if they don't take a shower everyday." And a member mentioned earlier in this very thread that they believed circumcision lessens the risk of getting an STD. People still buy into that outrageous claim, believe it or not.

I believe that the OP has a right to inform his friend of facts that he has reason to believe his friend may not be aware of, so his friend doesn't make a decision he later regrets, or even worse, so that the child of his friend doesn't grow up like so many other males: hating his parents for mutilating their gentials for no sane reason.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: rohr] * 2
    #19126381 - 11/12/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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And a member mentioned earlier in this very thread that they believed circumcision lessens the risk of getting an STD. People still buy into that outrageous claim, believe it or not.





That's because there are plenty of data on the subject.  Perhaps one of the most well-known studies was the randomized trial that appeared in the Lancet (a highly regarded medical journal) which reported the association.

And were you to actually examine the data, similar results have been reported in repeated clinical trials.


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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: rohr]
    #19126395 - 11/12/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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or whether it's some reaction to protect themselves psychologically from the torment of knowing they are mutilated, it doesn't really matter because you are happy and that's great.




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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: badchad] * 1
    #19126433 - 11/12/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Everyone here who hates their parents for mutilating them raise your hand...

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Yea, that's what I thought.
I was pretty pissed as a kid when my mom mutilated me by trimming my toenails, but apparently I've grown accustomed to the idea that humans can change their appearance with tools.


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