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MaJiK_420
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creeper tub turned PE?
#19123906 - 11/11/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think this is second flush on some creepers. And then about half way through the flush I noticed a couple random PE mutants, but now everything on the sides are pretty much PE.
I already picked some of the regulars before I took the pictures, but I thought it was really weird. .. I got a batch of agar and I'm going to take some clone samples.
How often does something like this happen?
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19123957 - 11/11/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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you don't tape your tubs? and that is pretty wild.
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Why would they be taped while fruiting? Lol I wrap em in saran wrap and tape the edges while they colonize. Kinda hybrid shotgun/mono.
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19123975 - 11/11/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't use a liner if that's what you mean. or taping the bottom? I thought that was old school and unnecessary lol
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19124002 - 11/11/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MaJiK_420 said: I don't use a liner if that's what you mean. or taping the bottom? I thought that was old school and unnecessary lol
It is old school and since light is not the primary cause of side pins it is unnecessary.
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19124057 - 11/11/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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didn't get the memo of that, all iv ever read was tape and a liner fixes side pinning
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TeaSippinHippie said: didn't get the memo of that, all iv ever read was tape and a liner fixes side pinning
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MaJiK_420
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TeaSippinHippie said: didn't get the memo of that, all iv ever read was tape and a liner fixes side pinning
if you find that it works then by all means go for it. Besides others, I have found tape and liners to be more effort than its worth. Nothing wrong with side pins, sometimes they are ugly, but they are still active lol
in the end do what works for you, methods change and evolve all the time.
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19124444 - 11/12/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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2 for the price of 1 nice!
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: gmc52789]
#19124480 - 11/12/13 01:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm just Curious about the next flush now ha.
And then I was thinking, since PE is a mutated strain, does anyone know what the original PE stain is? Or would it vary from vendor to vendor since it's just a mutation? Or am I overthinking that?
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19124697 - 11/12/13 02:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Those are pretty normal side pins for a second flush. Your tub also shows signs of lack of FAE which can lead to presentation of fruits like that, esp on the sides.
While the PE phenotype is possible to find in a multispore grow of any cube, I don't believe that is what you are seeing here.
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FrankHorrigan said: Those are pretty normal side pins for a second flush. Your tub also shows signs of lack of FAE which can lead to presentation of fruits like that, esp on the sides.
While the PE phenotype is possible to find in a multispore grow of any cube, I don't believe that is what you are seeing here.
The fruits on the sides don't matter to me, I care less if they come from sides or top at the moment. I admit I only fan maybe twice a day, but I've also experimented with this box leaving the whole thing topless in my gh as well. Always trying something different, my shit aint all dialed in yet lol. And phenotype... I had to look it up, a set of observable characteristics in a individual due do genetic and environmental factors? so that means what? These are just random helmet head, lumpy stemmed mutants rather than"authentic PE"? Lol?
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19126059 - 11/12/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19126062 - 11/12/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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That is PE.
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19126070 - 11/12/13 12:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Basically, any p. Cubensis syringe has the genetic material to make a true PE.
the statistical probability is so low that it is very unlikely. The probability that what you see is an environmental condition is alot higher.
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: blojo02184]
#19126101 - 11/12/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I almost find it more likely that OP got a mislabeled PE syringe that produced a few normal looking fruits or maybe a mislabled PE6
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: blojo02184]
#19126115 - 11/12/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So. I've had one or two pe mutants before, so the significance here to me is that this isn't one or two. This is approximately 30 with a handful of nice full sized pe fruits, from a tub that already flushed creepers, now there are no creeper fruits forming anymore, only pe.
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19126119 - 11/12/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Creepers or b+ only. I had some actual vendor pe this summer but lost the strain.
This is like 4th or 5th gen expansion g2g from wbs and gs alternating. Really can't remember if it's b+or creepertthough, they looked similar in comparison to the gt I had.
So would this be an environmental factor causing the whole tub to change its genetic expression?
Edited by MaJiK_420 (11/12/13 01:27 PM)
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19126261 - 11/12/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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thats not how generations are defined, thats just expanding the original gen
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: cronicr]
#19126264 - 11/12/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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